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2015-16 Performances


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5.6 Season Average Rating
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41
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15
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Worrying performance. As things stand, our season depends big time on him having a great season, and he just looked average today. Nothing stood out about him. Hoping for a lot more in the coming games. He needs to match the likes of Costa and co.
Costa would badly struggle in this team which creates absolutely nothing.
 
Costa would badly struggle in this team which creates absolutely nothing.
Costa actually made his name in a team that wasn't actually that creative, more than us, but less than the top teams. There's more to being a striker than waiting for things to fall in your lap.

But I do agree that better quality out wide would help Rooney. Young isn't ideal at all.
 
Costa actually made his name in a team that wasn't actually that creative, more than us, but less than the top teams. There's more to being a striker than waiting for things to fall in your lap.

But I do agree that better quality out wide would help Rooney. Young isn't ideal at all.
Both Rooney and Depay had nothing to play with really. Carrick, Morgan, Young and Mata didn't really feed the two of them. Aguero has Silva, Nasri and Yaya behind him, Costa has Hazard and we have...no one. Rooney was yet involved and decent today and certainly better than Memphis and Young
 
Costa actually made his name in a team that wasn't actually that creative, more than us, but less than the top teams. There's more to being a striker than waiting for things to fall in your lap.

But I do agree that better quality out wide would help Rooney. Young isn't ideal at all.

A bit ironic as I think Rooney has been one of the most creative forwards in the premier league. Costa atm is clearly better than Wayne is but to fault Rooney as a no#9 for the shortcomings of the midfield/wingers with the lack of chances created is a bit misinformed imo. For what its worth, this performance does feel better than his ones in the US tour.
 
Looked knackered in the end was panting even during the post match interview, think he needs to get a few more games under his belt.
 
Both Rooney and Depay had nothing to play with really. Carrick, Morgan, Young and Mata didn't really feed the two of them. Aguero has Silva, Nasri and Yaya behind him, Costa has Hazard and we have...no one. Rooney was yet involved and decent today and certainly better than Memphis and Young
And I'm sure our midfielders will say they have Costa, Aguero etc to provide quality forward play and we have.. no one.

Like I said, it works both ways. The blame doesn't lie with one or the other, but both. Not when both areas underperform. Hopefully we see us add the likes of pedro and Rooney perform better
 
A bit ironic as I think Rooney has been one of the most creative forwards in the premier league. Costa atm is clearly better than Wayne is but to fault Rooney as a no#9 for the shortcomings of the midfield/wingers with the lack of chances created is a bit misinformed imo. For what its worth, this performance does feel better than his ones in the US tour.
I'm faulting all of them. Not faulting Rooney for them. He wasn't up to the mark just like a Young wasn't.

Anyways, just one game in, hopefully he raises his level and has a cracking season.
 
Not ant good today unfortunately. Still hopeful that he can get it together and be a good goalscorer this year. We will need to start creating chances more though. A good example is the fact that Depay should have played him in for our goal and not passed to Young. Rooney would have been straight in, although he really should have done better with the chance anyway.

Can't help but feel that our players aren't great at spotting the movement from him and Depay and aren't technical enough to play the passes anyway.

Anyway here's hoping Rooney can pick up his form because we don't exactly have much back up.
 
He seriously needs to move up a gear. He's far too good to be fecking around in the box like he did for the goal. Hit it.
 
I wonder if he can still beat defenders 1 on 1. He always seems to wait for someone to arrive before making the next move. Also, I dont see the point in scrutinizing his performance too much. He is always average at the start of the season.
 
I think Rooney isnt what he used to be and is in terminal decline..BUT, our tactics are also playing a part in this.If you dont create chances, then we will struggle . I think this team needs more creativity in it, and with the current formation , there isnt much.

However where Rooney really struggles and where the blame lies with him, is that he needs to make the defenders lives more difficult than he does now.Think of Suarez's perfomance against in pre-season.He didnt score, but my goodness he was everywhere. Id love a player like Suarez in our lineup...
 
Nice dummy for OG to make a telling return to our attack!

Our lack of creativity, especially from the two wide players make his job even harder to be fair, he is not Aguero or Suarez where you can just play it up to him and he'll make something happen.
 
We should sell him next summer when his market value still high.This is not a knee-jerk reaction.He has been too hot and cold for a first choice striker of a top club and nobody gonna bench him.
 
It felt like he just showed up to OT for kick about.

I'm not expecting anything extra from him then what we have seen in the last few seasons. Some good games but mostly, him not delivering.
 
We should sell him next summer when his market value still high.This is not a knee-jerk reaction.He has been too hot and cold for a first choice striker of a top club and nobody gonna bench him.

He's not got any high value anymore we would struggle to get £20 million for him.

We should have sold him the second time he spit his dummy instead the ever thoughtful Moyes gave him a big fat completely undeserved contract.

So know we are stuck with him and his consistently bad performances and paying him an absolute fortune for it too
 
Very little to work with but when he got a chance he clearly wasn't sharp enough. Walker spared his blushes and hopefully Wayne gets in to the swing of things in the next few games. The team do need to figure out a way to find him in the box if we want him or anyone else to score regularly.

Not great but not all his fault.
 
Prolonging his top-level career at our expense.
 
Nothing new here. I love Wayne but I know we are not winning anything meaningful with him as the main man. For one reason or another we've never done that and I don't see things changing.
 
Costa would badly struggle in this team which creates absolutely nothing.

I think anyone would.

Yeah he wasn't good today but people are delusional if they think they could just swap him out with *big name striker* and see an instant difference in this system.

For the first 20 minutes him and Depay saw nothing of the ball. That's when they started dropping deep. Hopefully it's just early season rust from the whole team but tbh I don't think this is a system where we're ever gonna see free flowing attacking football which makes it important that he's clinical when he gets a chance.

I'll concede he made a right pigs ear of the one Walker buried. Probably finished it better than Wayne could tbh. :lol:
 
I think Rooney isnt what he used to be and is in terminal decline..BUT, our tactics are also playing a part in this.If you dont create chances, then we will struggle . I think this team needs more creativity in it, and with the current formation , there isnt much.

However where Rooney really struggles and where the blame lies with him, is that he needs to make the defenders lives more difficult than he does now.Think of Suarez's perfomance against in pre-season.He didnt score, but my goodness he was everywhere. Id love a player like Suarez in our lineup...

Teams are gettng better these days, we surely cant dominate and create chances for fun these days compared to pre roman, nowdays even midtable teams have a very good defender, and top 6 definetely are not a walk in park we can create chances after chances.

World class striker plays in the highest level tough opponent, it's the half chances they score that sets them apart, if we're creating chances like we do in the early 00s we can do with andy carrol
 
Very little to work with but when he got a chance he clearly wasn't sharp enough. Walker spared his blushes and hopefully Wayne gets in to the swing of things in the next few games. The team do need to figure out a way to find him in the box if we want him or anyone else to score regularly.

Not great but not all his fault.

How can you find someone in the box when he's not in the box? He should play like a striker, be selfish and stay in front, the lack of service imo is due to him dropping deep, which allows the cb to close down further, he didnt create enough movement to disrupt their defence, they know he's not capable of dribling past them, and they know that his first touch is too shit to make a flick. Just stand off him and block him.
 
Was awful today yet again. If Walker hadn't bailed us out, there would be a lot more people heaping the criticism on him. I really want him to do well and hope I am proved wrong but he just doesn't look up to scratch IMO.
 
How can you find someone in the box when he's not in the box? He should play like a striker, be selfish and stay in front, the lack of service imo is due to him dropping deep, which allows the cb to close down further, he didnt create enough movement to disrupt their defence, they know he's not capable of dribling past them, and they know that his first touch is too shit to make a flick. Just stand off him and block him.

I agree that he lacks some positional discipline and drops off far too often, this has been a hallmark of his game for over a decade. I'm actually very critical of Rooney in general but the nature of our team play has not provided any striker with regular service in the box during the LVG reign. This is in itself a disincentive to stay put upfront (Even Falcao was dropping deep just to get a touch). Rooney doesn't typically play on the shoulder of the last man but does tend to locate himself in the box for crosses when the ball goes wide, which seems to be our primary means of getting the ball in the box at the moment, and none of them are finding him (Young cross aside, this afternoon). I'd look elsewhere for a solution if it were up to me but as things stand we can only assess things on what the team has at its disposal. With that in mind, neither Rooney nor those tasked with supplying him are performing to the desired level.

Alas Rooney is here to stay and it appears will be in the team come what may, we need to make it work one way or another.
 
Never really got in a chance today (apart from the goal of course, no idea why he took a touch) but I thought his overall game was better then it was in pre season so that's encouraging. Touch was fine and held on to the ball well. Wingers were just shite creatively speaking and gave him nothing to feed off of.
 
Rooney is Rooney, bang average player for the last few years, but i'm hoping that he does not get the same treatment that RvP and Falcao got last year. A striker is only as good as the service they get.
 
Neither got much service, not made aby decent runs to receive through balls. Drops too deep. I am sure Chicha will get at least 20+ mins against Villa, if fit.
 
Prolonging his top-level career at our expense.
Pretty much unless he makes some big changes. The biggest thing he needs is to change his game to account for his declining acceleration and agility. While he is still quite fast over long distance, he isn't quick enough in short distances to get away with drifting deep/wide and using his speed to get back into the right position. Also needs to build up more strength to hold up the ball better, because he can't consistently beat defenders with pace anymore. Essentially he needs to do like Alan Shearer did the last years of his career and accept that he isn't the same player he once was and find a way to contribute.
 
He's just not that good anymore really is he?
 
ive been reading the criticism on here for a while, and thinking it was a bit harsh.

but now I've captained him in my fantasy team, and watched him tug around, not getting near the goal, and not getting much service, I am a little worried.
Showed the sharpness of a ball of wool when he had his one chance.

However did Kane look any better? Same story, but even less influence on th ball.
 
He'll still get 15-20 goals, wasn't particularly surprised by his performance. His best position is not a no9, doesn't have the right movement and doesn't stretch the play.
Still a very good player, him in behind a 9 would be good. Memphis back out wide.
 
Why did he feel the need to take an extra touch and how on Earth did he think he had so much time on his hands? I'm not a big fan of his, but I can only assume he's playing within himself slightly and not feeling nearly as sharp as he can be.
 
The biggest thing for me is that defenders don't seem to fear him anymore. Noticed this from last season and I think it's very telling. It's not like having Suarez or Aguero on the pitch. Seems so easy for defenders to anticipate what Rooney will do and also for them to push him off the ball.

Couple times today I wondered when he had the ball with some space, he didn't even try to run at their defenders - if even to do something different. I dunno what's going on with him, but he needs to improve right away. Then again, it's up to our coaching staff to realise we might have a problem here. It doesn't matter what we do in defence and midfield - goals win games and we need goalscorers or we won't be winning anything.
 
He needs to play with more discipline if he's going to be the lone striker. He can't drop off into the channel then walk around aimlessly after passing the ball. Especially given the inexperience of Memphis and lack of physical presence from Mata - there's got to be an outlet for both of them.
 
Always takes him several games before he starts to look anything resembling the Rooney of old, needs to stop trying to do everything and just concentrate on doing the one thing he was good at, scoring goals.
 
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