He's become a liability. I'd start Herrera, Mata and Pereira at 10 before Rooney.
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I've been a big defender but even I'm losing faith.
The thing is, commercially he is worth £300k a week to United so not sure what we will do with him.
Some of the abuse in here is way over the top though, unsurprisingly.
The thing is, commercially he is worth £300k a week to United so not sure what we will do with him.
Some of the abuse in here is way over the top though, unsurprisingly.
If you put Muller in the team in Rooney's position, I'd actually be pretty confident that we would win the title.
It's not even his fault. I’m quite annoyed at Martial, he didn’t hit Rooney with the ball even once today.
Apart from the time Martial put it on a plate for Rooney only for him to sky it over?
It isn't Rooney's fault that he loses the ball when he dribbles without a tackle either?
That cut back in the first half?
anything is possible in the Rooney thread.
Well played.
He's had bad spells throughout his career but he's never been this bad for this long.
It's been about 6 or 7 months of absolute shite.
It's been about 6 or 7 months of absolute shite.
Thank you
I was listening to Andy Goldstein on the way back from the match and he made an excellent point, whilst he's not playing at his best at the moment, he's still a huge player for us. If you took him out of our team we'd lack his experience.
I actually thought his link up play in the first half was fine.
I actually thought his link up play in the first half was fine.
I still don't think he's passed it but he was poor tonight. Every time he had the ball he just didn't look comfortable and that confidence he had from Saturday had disappeared.
Wrap him up in plastic foil(leave hole for breathing) and set him up on the entrance to the stadium before every home match. If I was on his money for the shite he has delivered recently I would happily be wrapped in plastic foil and hung up. Shit, they could hang me up even when the team is playing away. To be fair to the lad, he was a great player for United but is past it and from now on will only go downhill. Seriously.
After watching tonight's performance and most this season it's evident he's on the decline rapidly. I went back and found a game where he was in my eyes brilliant, I think if anyone's in any doubt of the decline to give this a watch! The difference between the 2011 Rooney seen here to now is like night and day. It will be interesting to see what happens this summer if he doesn't improve. a young energetic number 10 or even Mata/Herrera would be miles better based on what we are seeing.
Yes but what about Rooney?
Let his defenders come and dismiss everything as 'Rooney hatred' again.
I said on here months ago that my suspicion was that his status in the team, at least to some degree, was included in the terms of his last contract, and was dismissed, but I stand by that notion. He offers nothing and is clearly done. I'd have Marcus Rashford or Callus Gribbin in the team ahead of him, he's that useless.
The fact that he thinks he's a 20 goal striker is a joke. Martial is a whole 5 or 6 levels above him, and if we didn't sign him, we would not make the CL next season.
I said on here months ago that my suspicion was that his status in the team, at least to some degree, was included in the terms of his last contract, and was dismissed, but I stand by that notion. He offers nothing and is clearly done. I'd have Marcus Rashford or Callus Gribbin in the team ahead of him, he's that useless.
The fact that he thinks he's a 20 goal striker is a joke. Martial is a whole 5 or 6 levels above him, and if we didn't sign him, we would not make the CL next season.
What part of his experience would we be missing? His long lasting ability of doing feck all? Mata contributed more in the no. 10 position, despite playing out wide for most of the game. Apart from the clearance in front of our goal-line he didn't really do anything defensively either. In the last part when we just hoofed it up the pitch he didn't really seem to step in and offer any experience or leadership either.
I genuinely don't see what he brings to the team these days. He seems to be a step behind in almost every aspect of the game.
What does this rhetoric even mean? Another myth, that we are apparently better with a shit Rooney than an actual good footballer. You would think we were talking of Messi or something.
He seems to run around in a daze between the front 3 and the midfield looking lost, he has zero creativity for a #10 and is pretty much a 300k a week Tom Cleverley at this point.
Put Bobby Charlton back in the team and Rooney will be more goals behind the record in no time.
Bit harsh on Tom that. At least he can actually run and control a football.
he is a huge name for us yes. if he was out of the side our attacks would speed up
I've been a Rooney defender since the beginning. And I can't defend this. He was exceedingly poor today. No movement, poor touches, poor finishing and generally looked poor. I'm sad for us and him. I really hope lvg sees this too and subs in Herrera next game but also communicates about what he's doing wrong.
He won't make his powerful runs into the box anymore. He simply plays the ball back to our defensive mids every time he gets the ball. He had one or 2 nice little touches but generally he was poor. Only to be underperformed today by schneiderlin.
He won't make his powerful runs into the box anymore. He simply plays the ball back to our defensive mids every time he gets the ball. He had one or 2 nice little touches but generally he was poor. Only to be underperformed today by schneiderlin.
He actually looks quite fast once he decides to run. For me, the biggest problem is his first touch, but he also looks a little lazy at times. But I might be wrong about that, maybe van Gaal wants him not to get involved what would be a sensible decision really.
what does he need?
a week or two away from the first team?
work with a sports psychologist?
a fitness change?
he's lost some sharpness but inside the lumbering, slow player we have at 10 is a player with superb ability
he's been in this slump for a long long time tho.....is he too far gone to get the hunger, desire and inspirational play we last saw really about 3 years ago
interesting to see Torres showing his class only in the odd game
a week or two away from the first team?
work with a sports psychologist?
a fitness change?
he's lost some sharpness but inside the lumbering, slow player we have at 10 is a player with superb ability
he's been in this slump for a long long time tho.....is he too far gone to get the hunger, desire and inspirational play we last saw really about 3 years ago
interesting to see Torres showing his class only in the odd game
I thought he looked good in the 2nd half against Sunderland. Thought he might have rounded a corner, thought he might have something still to show us.
I realize now. He might look decent when playing against the worst defense in the league. But against any competent team, he will be exposed for what he truly is: Hes done at the top level. He has nothing.
I salute him for his contributions to this club, but when did Giggs/Scholes/Neville/Anyone get so many chances at once, deliver shit, and still start?
I realize now. He might look decent when playing against the worst defense in the league. But against any competent team, he will be exposed for what he truly is: Hes done at the top level. He has nothing.
I salute him for his contributions to this club, but when did Giggs/Scholes/Neville/Anyone get so many chances at once, deliver shit, and still start?
It was as if he was playing a game that was happening 5 seconds after it was actually happening.
It's true - he was buffering on my stream.
After one decent game he is back to being shit again.
Since we have very few options up top he will certainly get the season to prove me wrong but I'm fairly certain now that he is finished at the top level of football.
Since we have very few options up top he will certainly get the season to prove me wrong but I'm fairly certain now that he is finished at the top level of football.
I can remember frustrations with performances simmering towards the end of Giggs' tenure when Fergie kept playing him, but at least he was on and off whereas Rooney has been consistently poor.
It just feels like forever since he's been in any type form, he ended last season quite poorly, and started this one in much the same vein, I'd already given up on him ever achieving *game changing* moments again with us despite his image/wages, but you would hope he could at least do -OK- up the top and chip in with 15~ league goals a year despite the usual flaws to his game.
But it doesn't seem like he can even do that right now, you have to say it's really worrying, for both him and the club, this can only go on for so long before the clueless media catch on and bring the situation to a boil.
But it doesn't seem like he can even do that right now, you have to say it's really worrying, for both him and the club, this can only go on for so long before the clueless media catch on and bring the situation to a boil.
Would Everton be willing to spend 300k/week on a benchwamer though? He isn't near as good as Lukaku, and not even as good as Naysmith or Barkley.
Giggs was about 38 and had no legs. But he still had decent performances from time to time.
Rooney is 29 and has been awful for a long time. When was his last great performance. And don't give me the Brugge game. They just made him look good. Possibly the worst team we would have played this season.
Quite the opposite, I'd say. Standards for him have fallen. He has one decent half and people talk about how it's the Second Coming. That's when you know a players well and truly fecked.
More then decent. Sometimes he was the best player on the pitch.
I think you'll be waiting a while for the Media to catch up. They're fecking useless.
In loads of the reports of tonights games there seems to be a lot of surprise and shock that Rooney didn't take the penalty even though it's been established what LVG's take on penalties is. You miss one and you go to the back of the line. Rooney isn't even very good at penalties. He's missed loads for Utd.
And that's just a relatively small thing, we'll still get months of hearing how vital Rooney is for Utd, about how he provided experience and know how and other meaningless buzz words.
EDIT- Giggs used to have one brilliant game and then he'd be average for 3 or 4 games towards the end. His performance at home to Olympiakos in his last season is better than anything Rooney has provided in at least 8 or 9 months.
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