Becks says that Rooney has been very good this season and the "one to watch" from the English league. No wonder neither Rooney nor LvG realise that Rooney is done at this level when media and (former) footballers continue to single out Rooney as the star man despite him being extremely poor.
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His hat-trick game was in a CL qualifier game, against team decimated by injury. Brugge fielded a 'B' Team. Against their first team, I'd highly doubt he'd score more than 1 goal.
In fairness to him though, he put 3 goals passed the team which was put in front of him.
I prefer to look at EPL goals - as the teams tend to be of a consistently high quality. He has scored 1 goal in about 5-6 games...which is poor.
Awful today but well our manager decided to buy no strikers/number 10 so he'll play.
The amount of money he is paid relative to his input is fraud!
To be fair, as much as Beckham is a decent guy, he's one of those former England figures who are generally fairly uncontroversial and bland in their opinions like Shearer/Owen. Not necessarily an awful thing since he's not in a punditry role like the other two on a regular basis, but he's not the type who's going to lay into players he's fairly friendly with.
This
We keep expecting him to be better than he is. His standards are too high.
We need to accept that he is just an average player these days. Not shit, mind you, just quite average. With great experience, and some moments of brilliant quality.
We need to accept that he is just an average player these days. Not shit, mind you, just quite average. With great experience, and some moments of brilliant quality.
Wayne still has a lot to offer but he is a player in remission. I expect Louis to realise this during the season and than next season you'll see Wayne being treated justly.
Honestly think he's past it. Our best XI should be Herrera as #10, he would offer so much more not to mention he actually has a first touch.
That's not really an excuse to play him, though, if it's what LVG wants to go by. We have Martial, who looks a lot more sharp, fit and generally better all-round than Rooney at the moment. Herrera's perfectly capable of play in the number 10 role. As is Mata, although I'm happy with his current role within the side.
Well they'll be waiting for a long time imo. I don't quite buy this though you may be right. LVG is too experienced not to see Rooney's decline. There's no way he can miss that. I believe he doesn't want to go against the wishes of the club as they tend to fawn over him. I guess the best way to get them to change their minds is to play him until they can't deny what's actually happening with Rooney's form. Only my speculation but that is what I believe as nothing else makes sense to me.
Ross Barkley is ready made to take over from Rooney.
Just like Owen, Shevchenko, Torres, Falcao...it'll take at least 2 seasons of this form before the media pick up on the fact that he might be past his best. For now everytime he does something slightly good (see hatrick against Brugge) it'll be 'Rooney's back!'
I don't think LvG likes Mata in the 10 and he didn't do well there in the one game he played there vs PSV. Herrera is another he doesn't seem to fancy and Rooney is definitely a better option than Fellaini at 10 as it stops us lumping useless balls up top
So you wait until he costs you points or advancement in a tournament to do so? How about the morale of the players he keeping out of the side? Or those who have to carry him in matches? I think we are slowly reaching a point where his continued stay in the side is now detrimental to our play and that's just being polite.
Yeah, but instead of being asked specifically about Rooney, he namedrops him, and only him from the Premier League, when talking about exciting players from the top leagues. He added that "Wazza has made a very good start to the season", which is weird when coming from a guy you would think watches United regularly. Feels like media and the experts are being paid by Rooney's PR department now.
I don't think they'll wait that long, to be fair, but I do think they're very reluctant to throw him out the side considering it's still early in the season. I don't particularly think he's going to improve all that much and he's probably getting towards his last legs, but even though I'd drop him, I suppose it's very different when you're in the position to actually have to pull the trigger.
It's quite ridiculous how bad he's become. Ffs he lost the ball with a simple dribble today. He really looks like the popular bloke you invite to your sunday game who thinks he's good enough to play in the hole but is just straight shite.
I can't think many people would seriously arguing against him being dropped now. Whether he's finished or not is another thing. I'm not gonna write him off yet, he's had really shite spells before.
I'd easily have Fellaini over him at the moment.
I'd easily have Fellaini over him at the moment.
He should be benched for his own good, give the armband to Smalling or Schweinsteiger and bring Rooney on as a sub, it will probably spark some life into him as he tries to prove a point.
Yes I guess so. Need to at least start getting rotated with Herrera or whomever. Longer they wait to phase him out, the worse it'll be. Just worried this will cost us. I mean surely getting a win takes priority over Rooney's feelings?
Definitely. Although Rooney's a key player and has been here for a long time: I imagine he has plenty of friends in the dressing room. If we were to drop him and we suddenly regressed, it could end up being a bit messy. If we were struggling, then it'd be easier to do, but it's probably hard to drop your biggest name and captain when you're actually top of the league.
Maybe LVG will wait until we lose a run of games before taking action...otherwise, the English press will swoop down on him like those evil monkey thingies from The Wizard of Oz.
he's shit
There has to be some clause in his contract about him starting matches or something. It is just mind boggling as to how he continues to keep getting games. And to think, there are actually some people here who are defending his performance tonight. How standards have fallen!
Beckham says Rooney is having a great year, and guess who is filthy rich and owns an MLS team? That's right, this guy with the hair plugs:
Becks said:
http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-un...man-utd-star-rooney-with-ronaldo-messi-neymar
I think this is it. LVG needs to be very careful.
I think playing Rooney for 90 minutes every game, is more a political decision, than a performance based one.
Tbf, David would say nice things about Jack the Ripper...or just about anyone, in fact.
I think this is his last season. MLS bound..or back to Everton
Worrying thing for me is that I can't remember him being anything like this shite before. We all know he's had lean spells in front of goal, and spells when he's not really got into matches, but this time he's added being utterly unable to control, pass or shoot the football.
Why the feck would Everton want him like this? Seriously.
Brugge's defenders left enough room for an elephant to run past them
Imagine if we had a top quality #10 in his position? It would benefit our attack so much.
He's been Falcaoed.The manager needs to face the truth.
If only we could have give his game times to someone who can benefit us more both this season and long-term...
If only we could have give his game times to someone who can benefit us more both this season and long-term...
Yeah, I don't see why they'd put someone on like £250k a week who's probably going to sit on the bench behind Lukaku.
Not going to lie, when Rooney dribbled in the second half and managed to tackle himself, I actually burst out laughing like a mad man.
Thought he had a decent game for Wolfsburg though.
Thought he had a decent game for Wolfsburg though.
Normally I ignore anti-Rooney posts as they have tended to be quite unfair in the past.
As is though it's difficult to understate how much of a passenger he is in this side. Certainly doesn't deserve to be starting on form and he is a really big worry atm.
As is though it's difficult to understate how much of a passenger he is in this side. Certainly doesn't deserve to be starting on form and he is a really big worry atm.
Our boy David says lovely things a lot. I once wrote a song about that. "David the Slut"... He's a man who has good advisers. He wouldn't throw the kind of silly money we pay Wayne away.Beckham says Rooney is having a great year, and guess who is filthy rich and owns an MLS team? That's right, this guy with the hair plugs:
http://www.espnfc.com/manchester-un...man-utd-star-rooney-with-ronaldo-messi-neymar
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