Nah, you'd have to bench van Persie for that and he's undroppable.
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How many caftards voted in that poll that we should be glad he got banned for three games?
Fairly sure I was saying we should sell him the summer SAF left. As it turns out, that would have been a very stupid move on our part. Glad I'm not in charge.
The only striker we have who I'd be happy to rely on right now, which is a big worry given that we're supposed to have a star studded attack. Rooney will almost certainly hit one of his nightmarish poor runs of form at some point though so it's going to seriously hurt us if Falcao/RvP don't start contributing soon.
Still think Mata is a better #10 than Rooney and Rooney is better as a striker anyway, so you'd think our course of action here would be obvious....
The only striker we have who I'd be happy to rely on right now, which is a big worry given that we're supposed to have a star studded attack. Rooney will almost certainly hit one of his nightmarish poor runs of form at some point though so it's going to seriously hurt us if Falcao/RvP don't start contributing soon.
Still think Mata is a better #10 than Rooney and Rooney is better as a striker anyway, so you'd think our course of action here would be obvious....
Something like 23%? I bet they feel silly now.
Don't think he's looked this good in some time. He looks in pristine condition and regardless of where he's playing he's been effective. Should play upfront not because he can't play well behind the striker but because our other strikers have some problems.
To be fair he's brought every bit of it on himself.
Captaincy, how he's handling it and his currently form may have refreshed his image from both club and country.
They never learn, when it comes to Rooney.
He brought a bit of it because of the contract shit sure, but the way people went on about it was ridiculous. So many on here started legitimately hating the guy because he was looking out for his own career pretty much. Should he have went public with the whole situation in 2010? Absolutely not, but so mayny people still hold grudges against him because of it. Rooney gets scrutinized as much as anyone, and despite everything he's done in his career for us, you see cries to drop him right after he has a few bad passes or something. He just needs to be given some slack sometimes by fans, I mean it won't change anything with him as he'll keep on performing great as he has done for most of his career, but fans are always just so keen to put him down that people forget how good he is when he's out for a bit.
Haha I did. More so because I was desperate to see Mata play in his best position. Plus Rooney rarely plays well vs Everton. Unfortunately Mata didn't step up.
His achievements for both his club career and what he helped us achieve were never in doubt, they're simply amazing but I think many fans like myself still will remember the contract situation when we review his career in years to come and lets not forget it was twice.
The second time wasn't a contract or anything, it was just he went to Fergie to see if he could leave as Fergie didn't see him as a key player anymore, which for a player like Rooney, isn't what he wants. Never handed in a transfer request though, as he said and Fergie admitted later anyways. As for the first time, that's what I think is harsh. Yes it was wrong how he acted. Nobody is disputing that. It's a bit double standards that people always bring that up, but then nobody says anything with all the shit that went on with other legends like Rio, Cantona, Giggs and Keane. How is what Rooney did (asking to leave as the club wasn't showing ambition by selling Ronaldo and Tevez and signing Valencia, Owen, Obertan, Diouf, but in the end signing a new contract), and what Keane did (refusing to sign a new contract because of the rumours linking him with a move to Italy at the time I think, but eventually signing an improved contract? Do you hold that against him? If not, then you shouldn't hold it against Rooney.
Something so small and insignificant in the whole scheme of things shouldn't tarnish his reputation as a player who will end up as our all time leading goal scorer, one of our best players ever for all he's won with us and a United legend.
Rooney is that lucky anomaly - a Liverpool lad born to play for Manchester United.
He has always been a United-type player and the trashing of him over that silly red card shows what short memories some people have. Our Wayne fits in well with the tougher ideals of United - those do or die players such as Cantona and Keano, Brucie and Robson. The mistakes go with the territory, nothing venture, nothing gain.
It's enjoyable watching the United Captain and Chris Smalling getting on with it and making naysayers both here and from other sources eat their words. Wayne especially has the kind of character that we need in our captain and he just burns to take United back to the top. He is actually similar to Patrice Evra, too.
He has always been a United-type player and the trashing of him over that silly red card shows what short memories some people have. Our Wayne fits in well with the tougher ideals of United - those do or die players such as Cantona and Keano, Brucie and Robson. The mistakes go with the territory, nothing venture, nothing gain.
It's enjoyable watching the United Captain and Chris Smalling getting on with it and making naysayers both here and from other sources eat their words. Wayne especially has the kind of character that we need in our captain and he just burns to take United back to the top. He is actually similar to Patrice Evra, too.
Those scenarios are completely different in the sense that none of them had the temerity to question the manager, the club and implicitly question the quality of the first team openly in a press conference.
Manchester United captain Nemanja Vidic and defender Patrice Evra have led a number of verbal attacks on Wayne Rooney by his team-mates.
Rooney's decision to release a statement criticising United's lack of ambition, just two hours before Wednesday's Champions League clash with Bursaspor, has been interpreted as an act of betrayal by his team-mates.
Trusted colleagues knew of Rooney's desire to leave United in recent weeks but have attempted to talk him into a U-turn.
The timing of Rooney's statement and claims that his readiness to move is fuelled by a determination to continue 'winning trophies' prompted an angry response within the United dressing room.
Defender Evra led the attack on Rooney by insisting that there is no place at United for players who do not trust their team-mates.
He said: “If one player in the team doesn’t trust the others he should not play in the team. I’m not at that point because I trust everyone and I know we can win.
“I’ve been here for four years and every season, until last year, I have won the league. That hurt because this is Manchester United and we must win trophies.
“That is the pressure of playing here, so if a player is not happy with that pressure he should go. No team is better than us at the moment. Manchester United belong at the top and I’m confident we can do that.”
Evra insists that the Rooney saga will not be allowed to distract the players from kick-starting United’s faltering season. He said: “We need to be professional and we need to perform. I don’t like excuses about what’s going on around the club. Everyone needs to focus on themselves.
“The situation with Wayne Rooney is for the boss, not for the players. We are just focused on winning games and bringing back the winning mentality.
“Everyone talks about Manchester United but nobody has beaten us this season. The problem has been us — we have made some silly mistakes but teams have not been better than us. We have not been playing badly.”
United captain Nemanja Vidic, who signed a new long-term contract two months ago, admitted that all the speculation about Rooney was unsettling the team.
He said: “When rumours are going around talking about the bad performances or something happening around the club and the Glazers, it is not good for the players and not good for the team.”
Rooney’s aspersions that United no longer match his ambition were rejected by midfielder Darren Fletcher, a close friend, who claimed that the club remains at the forefront of the chase for honours.
Fletcher said: “That [lack of ambition] is his opinion, but I believe the players in the dressing room are good enough to take us forward.
“I watch them in training every day and we have got some young, exciting players. When someone leaves, someone always steps up to the mark. This is still the biggest club. What makes big clubs is history. Clubs can have money but this club’s history drives it forward.
“I have experienced big players leaving in the past and we have always managed to respond. When they leave, it is disappointing because they have been team-mates, big players for the club, and achieved massive success for the club.
“But it is the players in that dressing room who are going to be the ones to take Manchester United forward.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-speaks-out-over-Wayne-Rooneys-behaviour.html
Rooney's decision to release a statement criticising United's lack of ambition, just two hours before Wednesday's Champions League clash with Bursaspor, has been interpreted as an act of betrayal by his team-mates.
Trusted colleagues knew of Rooney's desire to leave United in recent weeks but have attempted to talk him into a U-turn.
The timing of Rooney's statement and claims that his readiness to move is fuelled by a determination to continue 'winning trophies' prompted an angry response within the United dressing room.
Defender Evra led the attack on Rooney by insisting that there is no place at United for players who do not trust their team-mates.
He said: “If one player in the team doesn’t trust the others he should not play in the team. I’m not at that point because I trust everyone and I know we can win.
“I’ve been here for four years and every season, until last year, I have won the league. That hurt because this is Manchester United and we must win trophies.
“That is the pressure of playing here, so if a player is not happy with that pressure he should go. No team is better than us at the moment. Manchester United belong at the top and I’m confident we can do that.”
Evra insists that the Rooney saga will not be allowed to distract the players from kick-starting United’s faltering season. He said: “We need to be professional and we need to perform. I don’t like excuses about what’s going on around the club. Everyone needs to focus on themselves.
“The situation with Wayne Rooney is for the boss, not for the players. We are just focused on winning games and bringing back the winning mentality.
“Everyone talks about Manchester United but nobody has beaten us this season. The problem has been us — we have made some silly mistakes but teams have not been better than us. We have not been playing badly.”
United captain Nemanja Vidic, who signed a new long-term contract two months ago, admitted that all the speculation about Rooney was unsettling the team.
He said: “When rumours are going around talking about the bad performances or something happening around the club and the Glazers, it is not good for the players and not good for the team.”
Rooney’s aspersions that United no longer match his ambition were rejected by midfielder Darren Fletcher, a close friend, who claimed that the club remains at the forefront of the chase for honours.
Fletcher said: “That [lack of ambition] is his opinion, but I believe the players in the dressing room are good enough to take us forward.
“I watch them in training every day and we have got some young, exciting players. When someone leaves, someone always steps up to the mark. This is still the biggest club. What makes big clubs is history. Clubs can have money but this club’s history drives it forward.
“I have experienced big players leaving in the past and we have always managed to respond. When they leave, it is disappointing because they have been team-mates, big players for the club, and achieved massive success for the club.
“But it is the players in that dressing room who are going to be the ones to take Manchester United forward.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-speaks-out-over-Wayne-Rooneys-behaviour.html
It ultimately left many first team players unhappy and threatened to destabilize the entire team with all that negative attention. It was also blatantly disrespectful to his teammates and Fergie who had played a significant part in his development as a player and he probably never truly forgave him for it.
All the politics, wrangling and the negotiating tactics behind the scenes are understandable and part of the game. Just about most players do it as they have to look after their own interests. Rooney is a greedy little gobshite just like most players but he is an incredibly stupid one. I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean to be disrespectful to his teammates and just wanted his bumper contract but he was probably too thick to consider the repercussions of his actions
. The alternative being that he really wanted to leave the club, which I don't believe in considering his abupt u-turn.The second episode in which he fell out with Fergie, wanting to leave was understandable and could be excused to a certain extent as he wasn't an important player in Fergie's last season.
I don't despise him or want him to fail but I just don't have the same affinity I had before 2010 when he was amongst my favourite players. Not that players would care about that so long as they get their salary. I did celebrate his goal against Arsenal though
. The vitriol against him can be exhausting and one doesn't really have to like him but it can't be that hard to just acknowledge that he is a good player.
Its such a shame as he ultimately didn't really fulfil his frankly absurd potential and had that disastrous episode in 2010. For someone who is bound to become United's top scorer, I wonder how many would remember him fondly after he retires or how many would even include him in an all-time United Best XI
.What I really like about him this season is how he has embraced the captaincy role. He's really trying to be a leader on the pitch by spurring the other players on and leading by example. Van Persie could do with taking a leaf out of his book because Rooney actually gives a feck.
I'll admit I was one who thought he shouldn't have been given a new contract and the captaincy, but he's really proving his naysayers wrong. Hopefully he continues his current form because we really need him to be banging in goals given RVP's shiteness and Falcao's constant injuries. If he had been sold, there really would have been no leaders in this current squad because if you look at the players we have, only Carrick and Fletcher have any sort of leadership qualities.
I'll admit I was one who thought he shouldn't have been given a new contract and the captaincy, but he's really proving his naysayers wrong. Hopefully he continues his current form because we really need him to be banging in goals given RVP's shiteness and Falcao's constant injuries. If he had been sold, there really would have been no leaders in this current squad because if you look at the players we have, only Carrick and Fletcher have any sort of leadership qualities.
just come across this as was listening to this weeks podcast....smashing!
Honest question: wasn't it Fergie that made it public first?
Have to say, not been a big fan of Rooney since he was toying to leave United. Made me highly, and maybe overly, critical of his performances and the effort he put in. Nobody can debate his talent, but always felt he was another Gazza, in that he was going to self destruct. I also thought Fergie was right in not having him play the striker role as he spent far too much time outside the box, sometimes in our half, and when we did a counter attack he wasn't where he should be. He always seemed to play the difficult ball rather than the more effective and simple pass.
That all said, since his suspension, he seems to have improved immensely. I see a lot more effective play, less stupidity and more maturity. Maybe, LVG has been guiding him to use his talent the best way. I also notice he isn't doing so much of control the ball and try and loft it to the wing. The ball is staying more on the ground and being played to feet.
I hope he continues as when he is on fire there are not many other players I would prefer to have in the team.
That all said, since his suspension, he seems to have improved immensely. I see a lot more effective play, less stupidity and more maturity. Maybe, LVG has been guiding him to use his talent the best way. I also notice he isn't doing so much of control the ball and try and loft it to the wing. The ball is staying more on the ground and being played to feet.
I hope he continues as when he is on fire there are not many other players I would prefer to have in the team.
A man who's questioned the club's ambition in the transfer market, and threatened to leave unless he got an improved contract offer, could never really be considered a true United legend. Ahem:
Ferguson, Alex (2011-12-08). Managing My Life: My Autobiography (Kindle Locations 6107-6111). Hodder & Stoughton. Kindle Edition.
Ferguson, Alex (2011-12-08). Managing My Life: My Autobiography (Kindle Locations 6118-6121). Hodder & Stoughton. Kindle Edition.
Ferguson, Alex (2011-12-08). Managing My Life: My Autobiography (Kindle Locations 5967-5970). Hodder & Stoughton. Kindle Edition.
Ferguson, Alex (2011-12-08). Managing My Life: My Autobiography (Kindle Locations 6107-6111). Hodder & Stoughton. Kindle Edition.
Ferguson, Alex (2011-12-08). Managing My Life: My Autobiography (Kindle Locations 6118-6121). Hodder & Stoughton. Kindle Edition.
Ferguson, Alex (2011-12-08). Managing My Life: My Autobiography (Kindle Locations 5967-5970). Hodder & Stoughton. Kindle Edition.
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Heh. Boom!
@NessunDorma
Cheers for those snippets. Were really informative. Still doesn't change the fact that Ferguson or Eric never openly questioned and disrespected United, his teammates and the manager. I've already said it my post that
You just have to look at the players' reactions and the manager's to realise how disrespectful it was and how much blatant negative attention it brought upon the club, which threatened to destabilize the team. As attested to by Vidic in the article in my earlier post. Many simply pass of the incident as something minute or similar to other players' situations when it was anything but that.
Wonder whether Fergie sympathised with poor Rooney's 'plight' in his biography. Do you have any excerpts or snippets of that episode from Fergie's biography that you'd like to post?
Make no mistake about it, Rooney is a good player and a legend of the club. Any player who is (soon to be) the top scorer of the club deserves that status.
Like I've said before, some let Rooney's shenanigans blind them and they become hell bent on discrediting him when he is a pretty good player.
The vitriol he gets is undeserved. There will be a significant number of fans who don't take to Rooney or won't remember him fondly after he retires, that's fair enough but it doesn't mean they have to go out of their way to criticise him. I can thus understand why many here get too defensive and go out of their way to defend him as well. It just leads to 2 annoying factions. One which rushes to lambast him after every misplaced pass or a shoddy first touch. The other which hypes him up to no end and get amazingly sensitive (not directed at you) at any single piece of criticism of Rooney.
It just makes this thread a rather unenjoyable one where you are either for or against Rooney and can't take any sort of middle ground.
Cheers for those snippets. Were really informative. Still doesn't change the fact that Ferguson or Eric never openly questioned and disrespected United, his teammates and the manager. I've already said it my post that
You just have to look at the players' reactions and the manager's to realise how disrespectful it was and how much blatant negative attention it brought upon the club, which threatened to destabilize the team. As attested to by Vidic in the article in my earlier post. Many simply pass of the incident as something minute or similar to other players' situations when it was anything but that.
Wonder whether Fergie sympathised with poor Rooney's 'plight' in his biography. Do you have any excerpts or snippets of that episode from Fergie's biography that you'd like to post?
Make no mistake about it, Rooney is a good player and a legend of the club. Any player who is (soon to be) the top scorer of the club deserves that status.
Like I've said before, some let Rooney's shenanigans blind them and they become hell bent on discrediting him when he is a pretty good player.
The vitriol he gets is undeserved. There will be a significant number of fans who don't take to Rooney or won't remember him fondly after he retires, that's fair enough but it doesn't mean they have to go out of their way to criticise him. I can thus understand why many here get too defensive and go out of their way to defend him as well. It just leads to 2 annoying factions. One which rushes to lambast him after every misplaced pass or a shoddy first touch. The other which hypes him up to no end and get amazingly sensitive (not directed at you) at any single piece of criticism of Rooney.
It just makes this thread a rather unenjoyable one where you are either for or against Rooney and can't take any sort of middle ground.
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I'm not too clear on the details but I think Fergie said Rooney had a injury and couldn't play, to keep the contract negotiations problems under the wraps. Rooney then said he didn't have any injuries or anything, which kind of forced Fergie"s hand into calling a press conference to clarify the situation.
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Those paragraphs were published in a best selling autobiography in 1999, when Fergie was still very much our manager. How much more public do you want to get?
Besides which, I don't remember Rooney ever 'openly' questioning or disrespecting his manager or team mates. Quite the opposite, in fact. Here's the exact statement he made at the time:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/oct/20/wayne-rooney-manchester-united
So he said he had nothing but respect for United, thought Fergie was a genius, but was worried that the club wouldn't be able to bring in the world class players required to bolster 'the future squad' (i.e. not the squad at the time / his team mates) and remain competitive.
And given this was at the height of the Green and Gold campaign, he didn't say anything 60'000+ people weren't saying inside Old Trafford every other week.
I referred to his latest biography, not his 1999 one obviously... Fergie dealt with the problem behind doors and only revealed it in his biography years later when it couldn't affect the club negatively in any way.
Rooney did implicitly question the quality of the first team squad. You can't deny that. He obviously isn't going to come out and say aye the team is shite.
I'd like to think the likes of Fergie, Evra, Vidic and Fletcher weren't creating a fuss over nothing.
It was really saddening to see Fergie deliver that statement rather disappointed. After all this was the guy who'd let go of the likes of RVN, Beckham and Stam with relative ease without even looking back for a second. I was shocked to hear him say that the contract offer was still there for Rooney if he wanted it. I remember thinking he should have just asked Rooney to feck off.
However, Fergie couldn't do that with Rooney being the best player in the team.
Judging by Rooney's feckin comments you'd have thought we were languishing in mid table mediocrity and were struggling to challenge for anything when we actually lost the title by a single point and were unlucky in the Champions League quarter final exit. A few days later Rooney signs a bumper contract and voila, everything's fine and dandy for our Wayne. You'd never guess who we'd sign the next season, a promising young Spanish keeper, a promising young English centre back and Ashley feckin Young. Wonder whether Rooney was sobbing in the corner about the lack of top players he had to play with or was pleased with the league win, the CL final appearance and the huge salary he was earning week in week out...
Rooney did implicitly question the quality of the first team squad. You can't deny that. He obviously isn't going to come out and say aye the team is shite.
I'd like to think the likes of Fergie, Evra, Vidic and Fletcher weren't creating a fuss over nothing.
I was in the office on 14 August and David phoned me to say he [Rooney] wasn't signing a contract," confirmed Ferguson.
"I was dumbfounded. Only months before he was saying he was at the greatest club in the world."
Having learned of Rooney's desire to go, Ferguson requested to speak to the player.
"Dealing with the next step was always going to be decisive for us, how we dealt with the situation," he said.
"I asked to have a meeting with the boy and he reiterated what his agent said, that he wanted to go.
"The one thing I said to him was 'respect this club, I don't want any nonsense from you'.
"I don't know if he has done that. I have doubts on that, we are reading all these things about falling out with me and all that nonsense.
"It's disappointing because we have done everything we possibly can to help Wayne Rooney ever since he came to the club.
"We have always been here as a harbour for him any time he has been in trouble, the advice we have given him. I was even prepared to give him financial advice.
"But it's not just Wayne Rooney, we have done that for all the players. Wayne has been the beneficiary of that, just as Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes have... so there has been no falling out.
"So there we are, we have got into a situation where we had to clarify this for our fans because what we saw on Saturday was unacceptable.
"When we got to 2-2 [against West Brom] and they were chanting Wayne Rooney, it's a pressure on the players and didn't do the team any good so we had to clarify the situation and put it right."
"We've done nothing but help him since he's been at this club," said Ferguson, who has not given up hope of Rooney remaining at Old Trafford.
"We cannot quite understand why he would want to leave. No-one can deny this club is one of the most successful in British football.
"We have won 40 major trophies, countless cup finals, have a fantastic history, a great stadium, great training arrangements.
"We don't understand it. I can't answer any questions about why he is doing it. We can speculate. We can have opinions. It won't matter a dickie-bird, simply because the player is adamant he wants to leave."
Ferguson went on to accuse Rooney of being deliberately economical with the truth when he came out after England's game against Montenegro last week to say that he had not been suffering from an ankle injury this season, in direct contradiction to the manager's statements of the previous few weeks.
"It was disappointing because when you know a player's form is a little bit down, you may say he has an injury to protect him, because you don't want to humiliate him and you have respect for him. In a lot of cases over the years we have done that, but in this case when we came to the Sunderland game we decided to give him a complete break to get fit and to play for England, play at Wembley, play for his country and I was hoping that we get his form back.
"That was my intention – to try to galvanise him in terms of getting a proper break from the games, get the training done, get his fitness back, get rid of the little traces of the ankle injury and then play for England. Why he has come out and said that, I have no idea."
It was really saddening to see Fergie deliver that statement rather disappointed. After all this was the guy who'd let go of the likes of RVN, Beckham and Stam with relative ease without even looking back for a second. I was shocked to hear him say that the contract offer was still there for Rooney if he wanted it. I remember thinking he should have just asked Rooney to feck off.
However, Fergie couldn't do that with Rooney being the best player in the team.
Judging by Rooney's feckin comments you'd have thought we were languishing in mid table mediocrity and were struggling to challenge for anything when we actually lost the title by a single point and were unlucky in the Champions League quarter final exit. A few days later Rooney signs a bumper contract and voila, everything's fine and dandy for our Wayne. You'd never guess who we'd sign the next season, a promising young Spanish keeper, a promising young English centre back and Ashley feckin Young. Wonder whether Rooney was sobbing in the corner about the lack of top players he had to play with or was pleased with the league win, the CL final appearance and the huge salary he was earning week in week out...
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Completely agree with @Joga Bonito
I know we have had other players who used different tactics to get improved contracts or leave the club, fair enough.
But those players didn't openly question the quality of the team and that in a time when we were winning trophies. Keane dared to critizise his team mates and was shown the door within seconds as a result.
What made it worse was that Rooney's statement came just hours before our CL game. Seriously it can't get more shocking than that.
Ronaldo at least just wanted to play in Spain, but even he didn't openly questioned his team mates' quality.
Since 2010 I don't have the same support towards Rooney. For United it's great when he performs as it benefits us. But for England since then I couldn't care less how he does for them whereas before 2010 I was mainly dissapointed because of him (and Becks until 2006) everytime England went out of a tournament.
Anyway, although I found both Ronaldo and Tevez more important at the time they were all here, I can acknowledge without problem that while they belong to other clubs now Rooney is still here. There are reasons for this as well (him being English, not intelligent enough to live abroad, not strong interest from top foreign clubs, high wages), but in the end all that counts is that he is here and mostly still performing.
Nevertheless it is extremely amusing how some ppl just don't want to admit the difference between his disgraceful actions in 2010 and other contract issues such as Keane's etc.
I know we have had other players who used different tactics to get improved contracts or leave the club, fair enough.
But those players didn't openly question the quality of the team and that in a time when we were winning trophies. Keane dared to critizise his team mates and was shown the door within seconds as a result.
What made it worse was that Rooney's statement came just hours before our CL game. Seriously it can't get more shocking than that.
Ronaldo at least just wanted to play in Spain, but even he didn't openly questioned his team mates' quality.
Since 2010 I don't have the same support towards Rooney. For United it's great when he performs as it benefits us. But for England since then I couldn't care less how he does for them whereas before 2010 I was mainly dissapointed because of him (and Becks until 2006) everytime England went out of a tournament.
Anyway, although I found both Ronaldo and Tevez more important at the time they were all here, I can acknowledge without problem that while they belong to other clubs now Rooney is still here. There are reasons for this as well (him being English, not intelligent enough to live abroad, not strong interest from top foreign clubs, high wages), but in the end all that counts is that he is here and mostly still performing.
Nevertheless it is extremely amusing how some ppl just don't want to admit the difference between his disgraceful actions in 2010 and other contract issues such as Keane's etc.
ffs got scared seeing thread bumped..fearing injury! Thankfully it is usual shite about wage demands and transfer requests. Phewww
Not intelligent enough to live abroad
Well he is not the brightest or most adaptable person among footballers ...
Is there some list of smart and stupid football players in the PL?
Maybe you know about it, otherwise just opinions, eh?!
I only wonder how you got to have such an opinion, and it's hardly just you. A lot of folks thinks he's an idiot apparently.
I do not watch interviews, so maybe there was some interview where he left the impression of how stupid he is? Daily Mail investigated his school grades?
He did forgot about Arsenal's goal though.
I do not watch interviews, so maybe there was some interview where he left the impression of how stupid he is? Daily Mail investigated his school grades?
He did forgot about Arsenal's goal though.
Must be hard to hate Rooney knowing that he will go down in history as one of the greatest Manchester United players of all time.
His first United goal vs. Fenerbahce was a sweet left-foot finish.
Don't let that stop ones from doing it. Highly entertaining.
Not intelligent enough to live abroad
He just insulted an entire country. And that''s totally wrong if Ribery can leave abroad every human being can.So, what was keane doing when he did his tirade on MUTV in 06 which cost him his United career?Those scenarios are completely different in the sense that none of them had the temerity to question the manager, the club and implicitly question the quality of the first team openly in a press conference.
Manchester United captain Nemanja Vidic and defender Patrice Evra have led a number of verbal attacks on Wayne Rooney by his team-mates.
Rooney's decision to release a statement criticising United's lack of ambition, just two hours before Wednesday's Champions League clash with Bursaspor, has been interpreted as an act of betrayal by his team-mates.
Trusted colleagues knew of Rooney's desire to leave United in recent weeks but have attempted to talk him into a U-turn.
The timing of Rooney's statement and claims that his readiness to move is fuelled by a determination to continue 'winning trophies' prompted an angry response within the United dressing room.
Defender Evra led the attack on Rooney by insisting that there is no place at United for players who do not trust their team-mates.
He said: “If one player in the team doesn’t trust the others he should not play in the team. I’m not at that point because I trust everyone and I know we can win.
“I’ve been here for four years and every season, until last year, I have won the league. That hurt because this is Manchester United and we must win trophies.
“That is the pressure of playing here, so if a player is not happy with that pressure he should go. No team is better than us at the moment. Manchester United belong at the top and I’m confident we can do that.”
Evra insists that the Rooney saga will not be allowed to distract the players from kick-starting United’s faltering season. He said: “We need to be professional and we need to perform. I don’t like excuses about what’s going on around the club. Everyone needs to focus on themselves.
“The situation with Wayne Rooney is for the boss, not for the players. We are just focused on winning games and bringing back the winning mentality.
“Everyone talks about Manchester United but nobody has beaten us this season. The problem has been us — we have made some silly mistakes but teams have not been better than us. We have not been playing badly.”
United captain Nemanja Vidic, who signed a new long-term contract two months ago, admitted that all the speculation about Rooney was unsettling the team.
He said: “When rumours are going around talking about the bad performances or something happening around the club and the Glazers, it is not good for the players and not good for the team.”
Rooney’s aspersions that United no longer match his ambition were rejected by midfielder Darren Fletcher, a close friend, who claimed that the club remains at the forefront of the chase for honours.
Fletcher said: “That [lack of ambition] is his opinion, but I believe the players in the dressing room are good enough to take us forward.
“I watch them in training every day and we have got some young, exciting players. When someone leaves, someone always steps up to the mark. This is still the biggest club. What makes big clubs is history. Clubs can have money but this club’s history drives it forward.
“I have experienced big players leaving in the past and we have always managed to respond. When they leave, it is disappointing because they have been team-mates, big players for the club, and achieved massive success for the club.
“But it is the players in that dressing room who are going to be the ones to take Manchester United forward.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-speaks-out-over-Wayne-Rooneys-behaviour.html
It ultimately left many first team players unhappy and threatened to destabilize the entire team with all that negative attention. It was also blatantly disrespectful to his teammates and Fergie who had played a significant part in his development as a player and he probably never truly forgave him for it.
All the politics, wrangling and the negotiating tactics behind the scenes are understandable and part of the game. Just about most players do it as they have to look after their own interests. Rooney is a greedy little gobshite just like most players but he is an incredibly stupid one. I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean to be disrespectful to his teammates and just wanted his bumper contract but he was probably too thick to consider the repercussions of his actions
The second episode in which he fell out with Fergie, wanting to leave was understandable and could be excused to a certain extent as he wasn't an important player in Fergie's last season.
I don't despise him or want him to fail but I just don't have the same affinity I had before 2010 when he was amongst my favourite players. Not that players would care about that so long as they get their salary. I did celebrate his goal against Arsenal though
The vitriol against him can be exhausting and one doesn't really have to like him but it can't be that hard to just acknowledge that he is a good player.
Its such a shame as he ultimately didn't really fulfil his frankly absurd potential and had that disastrous episode in 2010. For someone who is bound to become United's top scorer, I wonder how many would remember him fondly after he retires or how many would even include him in an all-time United Best XI
At least we know what kind of people hate Rooney now.
They never really have an excuse do they? Always personal attacks.
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