Probably after a poor first touch more like it.
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Ah well, generally Wayne's bad touches and passes only come out when he's having a bad performance.
Ahh can't wait for those posts which usually include the bewilderment over not playing Mata over Rooney and ofcourse his wage packet.
Well I am in favour of Mata playing there but I want Rooney up front.
I find it hilarious how anyone even doubts Rooney's ability at this stage. All we ever hear is how RvP, Mata, Kagawa, Falcao etc should start over him, yet he's going to be Utd and England's record goalscorer and goals are only 50 percent of his game.
He's amazing. Yes, he's made mistakes but just thinking about what he's accomplished and the way he's stayed on the very top for all that time despite often having everyone against him (even the fans of his own team) just makes me respect him even more.
I love mata but when he was given his chances this season he didn't take them, Rooney has.
Really hate that argument of not 'taking his chances' during that 3 game period. We know what Mata can do, what he offers and what he doesn't offer. A 3 game test wasn't going to make or break his season.
If Mata played well in those games, Rooney would have come back in, van Gaal confirmed that by saying he can't drop Rooney, it looks as though RVP is in the same boat unfortunately and that really impacts on Mata. Over the course of the season, I think Mata will prove to have a good season for us, if not a very good season.
You are probably right, but one of my biggest issues with modern football is the constant refusal to drop out of form players, and it would be hypocritical of me to change my stance just because it's one of my favourite players. I can't bang on about rvp/Rooney never getting dropped yet expect mata to be an automatic starter, he had three games where one of his main roadblocks to the first team was removed and underwhelmed. I agree I think he will have a good season but he needs to make himself undroppable when the chance comes
Rooney has? His start to the season was horrible, he destroyed most of the attack we started. We lost 2-1, and then 1-1 and 0-0, with very low amount of chances created, so who cares that he runs a lot, he should create chances.
Rooney is improving now and I like what I see and of course he should play if he plays like this, but most of his games this season weren't good at all.
Mata was good against Palace, he actually won it for us, but still didn't start and I am not even complaining about that, but it's obvious that it's not only about how someone performed.
I'm pretty sure those games Rooney played upfront? Since moving back he has been good
So when he's gonna fall out with Van Gaal?
Every week I thank Moyes for one thing....getting Rooney to stay at United and signed another contract. He's vital to us in more ways than one.
I am not in the "Move him up top" camp. His best position is as a #10. He may not be a techno midget who tiki taka's the shit out of the ball and nor is he as elegant as some of the others but he's one of the most effective players there.
Yes, because all the midfielders in a midfield 3 ought to be hard-hitting tacklers
Yes, because all the midfielders in a midfield 3 ought to be hard-hitting tacklers
Because that's what I said..
Then why do you have a problem with playing Rooney up front, if all we miss is his tackling and hard work? Herrera is a much better all-rounder in midfield. Fellaini is better in the air. Pretty much everyone(Carrick, Blind, Herrera, Mata, Di Maria) are better at passing and keeping the ball.
With RVP being shite lately and Falcao still being injured, we sorely need an explosive striker who can cause the defense problems. Rooney is our man.
I'll never feel as conflicted about a player as I do about Rooney.
I really do hate him and love him at the same time.
I really do hate him and love him at the same time.
loved his goal celebration yesterday.
I loved that over the summer, as if Rooney was this massive cnut that couldn't possibly get on with van Gaal. Not even a chance, just dead-on hated Rooney and was going to ship him out before he even met him.Rooney should be number 9. We need goals
People calling for Rooney to be a no.9 are crazy; he hasn't played consistently in that position since 2009/10 (back when he was younger and more mobile too), what makes people think he'll just slot in and be brilliant? I know Van Persie isn't firing on all cylinders but at this stage he's still our best option up top, I still like Rooney has a second striker, or a number 10 depending on how Van Gaal wants us to play.
Also, I was crazy relieved when his chip went in to make it 2-0. I don't know why, but I've never felt confident in Wayne in 1v1 situations against the keeper. Honestly thought he was going to botch it.
I felt the exact same when he went one on one. Relief wasn't the word when I saw it drop in
. Oddly enough, I was absolutely 100% dead confident that Di Maria was going to score his one on one... and well, we all know how that one turned out!I felt the exact same when he went one on one. Relief wasn't the word when I saw it drop in
Form.
Agree with you, although I feel that confidence is also a factor. Rooney had a defender close on him when he was through, so really he had to beat the keeper using a chip or maybe just slotting it away (showing great confidence), whereas Di Maria was completely un-pressured, and I reckon on another day, with a bit more confidence he would have rounded the keeper and slotted it.
They're not crazy, just right. Rooney has been an obvious #9 for two and a half seasons now. His play at #10 in a conventional system renders us predictable, while he has struggled when pressured in tight spaces. Rooney is one of the best strikers in Europe and that's exactly where he should be playing. Van Persie being a better option just simply isn't the case on current evidence.
To answer your question, I think Rooney would easily slot in up top because his finishing and work rate are the two best facets of his game. These qualities are exactly what we need from our centre forward given the other players in the team. He looks as fit as he has in years too, so mobility isn't an issue either.
Rooney's finishing really is massively underrated. I trust him in a one vs one more so than any other player in the squad.
If we were to ever press ahead with playing Mata in behind Rooney then we'd be golden in many matches, in my opinion. They aren't competing for the same spot in my eyes.
I mentioned Rooney being a second striker in the comment you replied to, and I think he'd be better suited in that position than both number 9 and a number 10. I agree that his finishing and work rate are both good, but he gets agitated when he goes for long periods of time without touching the ball or receiving it facing the goal. Not to mention that said work rate is much appreciated in the midfield when he drops back to help defend or drive the attack forward. Ideally, Falcao would be a great foil, but alas his injury woes and Van Gaal's preference for Van Persie haven't seen that come to light. I'm not doubting that Rooney could be a good-to-great #9, I just don't think it's as guaranteed a success as many people do.
But you may have a point on people's perception of his finishing. I've always maintained that Wayne is a good finisher, but for some reason I didn't feel confident when Di Maria slipped him the ball for the goal. Should have known better.
I'm the same.
I was confident of him in that one on one against Arsenal. I even knew he was gonna dink it up with his left.
It really was funny. If there was anyone on our team who all managers would love to have, it was Rooney because of everything he brings to a team.
Rooney is a tremendous finisher. I just knew he was gonna score as soon as he touched the ball. His finishing ability is underrated. He doesn't get into as many goal scoring positions because he has to drop deep nowadays but if his finishing wasn't good, no way he would be so high up the goal charts.
Coming back to the topic, Rooney has to play upfront. He kind of slows the game down and isn't very creative. Does the job decently but much much better as a #9.
Rooney and Falcao brings a lot of strength and physicality up top for us. Both are not slow but lack the blistering pace what can create uncertainty in teams. But would love to see this combo soon.
One-on-ones are actually when I feel more confident in Rooney. Some players you just can't trust in that situation - Saha was a prime example - but Rooney tends to score those chances.
What's with the fascination of fecking around with players who seem to be in excellent form in the position they are playing in? It was the same with Di Maria, so many people on here had a massive hard on to shift him out wide and his performances have massively suffered since then.
Its the same with Rooney now. If it's not broke...
Its the same with Rooney now. If it's not broke...
#Rooney9
He's been one of our most influental players for about a decade now, he's just not good himself but also makes team mates play better football, we are lucky to have him on our side.
I've been criticising him a lot as of late, but he's in great form and I'm glad he's proving me wrong. Took his goal well, and should of had an assist if di Maria had finished his chance.
Agree with those wanting him pushed up to no.9 position. His ability to run in behind/run the flanks is something we miss when he plays deeper. Would like to see him up top with Mata behind him, and maybe Wilson alongside.
He's the bet striker we have and we have him in midfield. We should be playing Mata or Herrera in midfield so Rooney can move up.
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