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To be quite honest, people on the extreme end of both sides of the argument routinely come across like childish dickwits. The whole "I hate him I hate him I hate him" thing is just as much of a fecking chore at this stage.

People might say i'm biased, and perhaps I am. I don't deny being a huge Rooney fanboy at all. He's my current favourite United player, and has been for a few years.

But I do like to think I retain a modicum of objectively regarding his performances. I've conceded that, over the last two seasons, you would be hard pushed to say he's looked world class. I've conceded that people were entitled to expect more from him over the first few games of this season. That those who say he's no longer worth his wages are at least making an arguable point.

I do think, though, that the vast majority of dickishness and extremism comes from those who simply *do* seem to have an irrational dislike for Rooney the individual, and are basically just disguising that behind faux-concerns over his ability (or lack thereof).

This leads to them writing no end of utter nonsense about him - magnifying his flaws x 1000, playing down his attributes and consistent positive contributions, and ignoring context completely - which I personally enjoy arguing against and trying to refute. As do others, I presume. It's a fan forum after all, and partly what it's all about. Certainly beats sniping from the sidelines like you're above it all, anyway. Hence what look like endless tit-for-tat, back-and-forth debates.

On balance though, I reckon the fact that Rooney continues to start for us, has been made our captain, and looks to be gaining form is a sign that those who believe he remains good enough to play for this club are generally in the right, and those who think he should be jibbed off wrong.
 
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Can't deny his contribution, I'm just amazed at how bad his first touch has gotten.
 
I don't understand those who are bringing up the fact that Rooney can't be faster than Robben and ADM. Erm, he obviously isn't. All the stat is saying that yesterday, he hit a top sprint speed that was higher than even that clocked by ADM which goes on to sort of kill the myth that Rooney is "slow". He might not be the quickest but he's the fastest of our front 3.
 
I don't understand those who are bringing up the fact that Rooney can't be faster than Robben and ADM. Erm, he obviously isn't. All the stat is saying that yesterday, he hit a top sprint speed that was higher than even that clocked by ADM which goes on to sort of kill the myth that Rooney is "slow". He might not be the quickest but he's the fastest of our front 3.
But he's a pub player, how could he reach such speed? And he asked to leave twice, so obviously he can't be any good!
 
But he's a pub player, how could he reach such speed? And he asked to leave twice, so obviously he can't be any good!
I'm just shocked he managed to reach 20.3mph with all those 300k worth of notes in his pockets.
 
Calm down. Di Maria's pass to RVP was something out of the ordinary. Lots of players can spray crossfield balls to the wing.

Calling that a 'spray pass' just shows how biased you are. It was a peach of a pass. Maybe AdM had one as good, but it does in no way reduce the quality of the pass.

Love him or hate him, seeing but not acknowledging it is just cheap.
 
Can't deny his contribution, I'm just amazed at how bad his first touch has gotten.

It's always been inconsistent. Even amidst all the hype of his debut season I remember being surprised by how heavy his touch was at times. It's just one of those things. He'll always be capable of a poor touch under no real pressure. Also capable of a sublime first touch, mind you, but it can be frustrating to watch. I just find it weird the way so many people give the impression they can't see past a few heavy touches and appreciate the rest of his contribution in a particular game. It's like it winds them up so much they stop taking anything else in.

Not aimed at you, specifically but definitely a recurring theme in Rooney threads. Especially since it became 'cool' to hate him.
 
I just find it surprising that everyone chooses to hate on him for his first touch now and not for the last decade that he's done it. But I guess the transfer requests and the 300k a week are adequate justification for the abuse.
 
I find it funny there'll be a generation of Manchester United supporters describing the clubs all time leading goalscorer to their children as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
 
I find it funny there'll be a generation of Manchester United supporters describing the clubs all time leading goalscorer to their children as a greedy waster with a shite touch.

I don't think that will ever happen. He is just 19 and 31 away from Law and Charlton's totals, hopefully this season, practically next. The big picture will overshadow minor drawbacks.
 
I find it funny there'll be a generation of Manchester United supporters describing the clubs all time leading goalscorer to their children as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
I think their opinions will change once he retires. I think people look back fondly once a player isn't playing anymore and while "fond" isn't a term the vast majority of the United fans will ever use for Rooney, I think they'll tell a different tale when they pass on stories of our leading goal scorer of all time to their children.
 
I find it funny there'll be a generation of Manchester United supporters describing the clubs all time leading goalscorer to their children as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
More likely to be describing him as a quality player that was a cnut too.
 
I find it funny there'll be a generation of Manchester United supporters describing the clubs all time leading goalscorer to their children as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
It's weird because whenever I go to games the crowd love what Rooney does. Also, a lot of United fans abroad love Rooney..hence why he sells the most shirts.

It's on these forums where he is portrayed as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
 
It's weird because whenever I go to games the crowd love what Rooney does. Also, a lot of United fans abroad love Rooney..hence why he sells the most shirts.

It's on these forums where he is portrayed as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
It's not just these forums. You should take a look at Twitter. The nonsense they sprout there about Rooney is venomous.
 
He is cnut but he is OUR cnut. He'll go down as a greedy bastard , but someone who helped bring the club a lot of success.
 
It's weird because whenever I go to games the crowd love what Rooney does. Also, a lot of United fans abroad love Rooney..hence why he sells the most shirts.

It's on these forums where he is portrayed as a greedy waster with a shite touch.
Yep, there was a period I disliked Rooney but I still valued him as a player. I must admit he won be back over, I feel he's a club legend.
 
It's not just these forums. You should take a look at Twitter. The nonsense they sprout there about Rooney is venomous.
Twitter's Twitter though. I'm sure there's people slagging Di Maria off on there today.

In fact, the worst are the people who phone up to Talksport etc. Someone rang up there the other week saying ''De Gea has never been good enough, ask any United fan..we all feel nervous every time somebody shoots at him'' when actually if you asked any United fan about De Gea, the opinion would be the complete opposite.

A little off-topic but, there are many retards out there. On here, not so much, which is why I'm surprised Rooney get's bashed on here.
 
It's always been inconsistent. Even amidst all the hype of his debut season I remember being surprised by how heavy his touch was at times. It's just one of those things. He'll always be capable of a poor touch under no real pressure. Also capable of a sublime first touch, mind you, but it can be frustrating to watch. I just find it weird the way so many people give the impression they can't see past a few heavy touches and appreciate the rest of his contribution in a particular game. It's like it winds them up so much they stop taking anything else in.

Not aimed at you, specifically but definitely a recurring theme in Rooney threads. Especially since it became 'cool' to hate him.
Indeed, though his touch was masked by his superb talent in other areas. He's lost the energy and aggression in his game which is what made him one of the best.
 
Surprised at those speed statistics. He definitely didn't look as fast as Di Maria but if they are accurate then fair enough. Shows how deceptive television can be I guess. Still find it a little strange though.
 
Wasn't he supposed to have fallen out with van Gaal by now?
 
It's always extremes with people when it comes to Rooney, but I guess he's also an extreme player. When he's hot he is really hot and when he is cold he's very cold. I can't think of anyone at his playing level who's technique is so reliant on confidence, if he is having a bad patch even his 1st touch goes to shit.
 
Its incredible that its very likely that he'll more likely end his career as our, England and the EPL's top scorer and people will still say that he didn't fulfil his teenage potential. Perhaps people had unreasonable expectations of him.
 
I don't think that will ever happen. He is just 19 and 31 away from Law and Charlton's totals, hopefully this season, practically next. The big picture will overshadow minor drawbacks.
I can see those scouse, esp RAWK, using this as another stick to beat us with. Another case of lost identity.
 
Thought everyone knew that in a long sprint Rooney can reach unbelievable speeds? His problem has always been that his injuries seem to have taken away his acceleration which in football is much more important than the top speed a player can reach.
 
Surprised at those speed statistics. He definitely didn't look as fast as Di Maria but if they are accurate then fair enough. Shows how deceptive television can be I guess. Still find it a little strange though.

Judging by those stats Evans is 0.1 km/h slower than di Maria. You obviously can't get anything out of them.
 
Praised Sir Alex as best ever coach and expects to end career at United.

Good stuff. Best ever coach that he's been involved with? Or just the best coach ever in general? Anyone else notice the friendship he and Rojo seem to be developing? Have seen a few photos of them now and against QPR they had a bit of interaction as they came off the pitch. Good to see Wayne helping him settle in.
 
I think he took his role of a captain quite seriously. You could see some nice touches in QPR game -- fatherly hug of all the players that came to congratulate di Maria, then calming down Rafael about something...that what you mentioned. Obviously easier when we're winning of course.
 
The good thing about our new attacking wealth is that defenders have more to worry about now, it seemed to be in the last few years that Rooney was probably the opposition defenders biggest concern, and in a lot of games it looked as if he was crowded out by 2 players and not always finding the space he would of in his earlier years, I think this season the opposition has far more to worry about with Di Maria, Falcao, Herrera etc and that will benefit Rooney alot in my opinion as the oppositions attention wont be so much on him.
 
Not sure where these quotes are coming from but:
Edit - Ah, clicking the 'Rooney said' takes you to the Daily Mail article.


“Sir Alex is an incredible person and manager,” Rooney said.

“He helped me a lot, helped us all. I’m really grateful for everything he’s done.

“It was a great feeling. Sir Alex is the best manager there’s been and for him to recognise my talent and want me to join this club was a great honour for me.

“I’m a strong-minded person and sometimes you have to make tough decisions. No-one else could make it for me. It was down to me whether I left Everton and I made my agent aware and told my parents that I was going to join Manchester United. I had no regrets doing that.

“He certainly helped me a lot and helped us all. At the time I was coming into the squad as a young lad and there were a few other young lads. He brought all that together and made us world champions.”
 
I have to say, I am not a fan of his these days, but after he was made captain he seems to have stepped up and matured a lot. I am impressed with how he is handling himself lately, long may this continue!
 
Here's something I found posted about Giggsy on the Caf when he was Rooney's age.


"I agree, in the beginning Giggsy play was unpredictable but nowadays he's a prone injury player and also every defenders have learnt his play style. According to me he should either change his style of play , i.e. do more passes than loosing the ball, or he should change his position in the team, maybe going upfront and this is what SAF is planning to do."


Not too dissimilar.
 
Here's something I found posted about Giggsy on the Caf when he was Rooney's age.


"I agree, in the beginning Giggsy play was unpredictable but nowadays he's a prone injury player and also every defenders have learnt his play style. According to me he should either change his style of play , i.e. do more passes than loosing the ball, or he should change his position in the team, maybe going upfront and this is what SAF is planning to do."


Not too dissimilar.
There was a period Giggs would be lambasted for poor performance.
 
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