He wasn't really great in our six match run. Unless you listen to that nonsense from Neville about silent domination.
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He wasn't really great in our six match run. Unless you listen to that nonsense from Neville about silent domination.
Ok? Still coming back from injury though. Anyway, I am just as worried about him as everyone. I was just pointing out some possible explanation.
Aand we didn't have to wait long for this oneYeah I agree with that. This system simply doesn't suit a striker like him unfortunately.
LOL at the people boasting he's better than RvP when played upfront. After next season, he shouldn't be an automatic starter.
Yes in the past, occasionally. Play Rooney up top and he was supposed to be our best, most lethal striker. Been a good player for us but way past his best now.
Another awful performance, hope we replace him ASAP.
But is this typical of the current version of Wayne Rooney? I'd argue that he very rarely puts in great overall performances. On form he scores, but overall performances have been lacking quite consistently,
4 goals in 14 games up front, not good enough.
And brings more than goals - what and when? Not up front and not for a while.
And brings more than goals - what and when? Not up front and not for a while.
he used to be a player who lifted all team now he's player who is absolutely dependable on team, he's useless now, his wonderstuff doesn't ake up for his Conference north league Touch and below that league movement. WOnder who could be slower RVP or him, we are really fecked as wee desperately need striker and if we get half decent striker than Rooney who shall play no matter what will be in midfeld again.. Should have got rid 3 years ago, every year he's more and more useless..
'When you play him as a no. 9 he'll get you 30+ goals.'
After next season? He shouldn't be an automatic starter now and shouldn't have been all season.
Aye, pretty shite today. Doesn't look fit, is he carrying a knock?
Honestly, I agreed with him getting 20+ goals until a few months ago up front. But he's had plenty of opportunity there, and even in our best form of the season performance wise he was fairly anonymous.
System doesn't suit him and it's gonna be tough to find a striker who can the role Van Gaal wants well - but Rooney isn't the man for me.
He's been shocking for months.
If we go into next season with him as our main striker I fear for us.
If we go into next season with him as our main striker I fear for us.
As the captain he needs to lead by example.
Alas the team followed his example today in being completely half arsed.
Any sense of fire and passion appears to have disappeared from his game and that concerns me even more than his erratic control and passing.
Alas the team followed his example today in being completely half arsed.
Any sense of fire and passion appears to have disappeared from his game and that concerns me even more than his erratic control and passing.
Definitely now on the decline. He's only going to get worse from here.
Later guys I am just going to stay off this thread until next season starts. It is going to get ugly here. It always does in the summer.
I said it earlier in the season: when Rooney is on form he's on form, not matter where he plays.
This season he's just been pretty shit consistently and his worst attributes have been abundantly clear throughout (The odd game aside).
Unfortunately he'll be given all next season to regain his form as first choice regardless. Him and Valencia must have something in their contracts.
This season he's just been pretty shit consistently and his worst attributes have been abundantly clear throughout (The odd game aside).
Unfortunately he'll be given all next season to regain his form as first choice regardless. Him and Valencia must have something in their contracts.
Does it suit any striker? They've all been shite. If Van Persie was embarrassing last week I'm not sure what this performance qualifies as.
Every year that he is our main man is going to be another year without trophies. When he got the new contract under Moyes I told my friends that I was wiling to wait 5 years before we start winning again. I waited 26 years so what is 5.
Use all the stats you want, I watch every game and Rooney has never been a highly skilled player and I never bought into the " white Pele " hype. I did not mind keeping him if his role was ancillary but if our game is going to revolve around him then it does not matter who we bring in, we simply wont win anything.
Somehow I believe LVG is going to do something about this.
Use all the stats you want, I watch every game and Rooney has never been a highly skilled player and I never bought into the " white Pele " hype. I did not mind keeping him if his role was ancillary but if our game is going to revolve around him then it does not matter who we bring in, we simply wont win anything.
Somehow I believe LVG is going to do something about this.
He'll score a hat-trick or an important goal and we'll all go back to praising him.
He needs some real competition for his place, but he's too good to write off just yet.
He's dropping off but it's not as if we weren't warned. I think when SAF brought van Persie in, it wasn't just because of Rooney's contract situation. He also must've noticed in training and matches that Rooney was starting to lose the advantages that made him such a dangerous player - that his intensity was starting to diminish and he was losing that half-step ahead of defenders. He is only 30, but seems much older than that. We had signed Kagawa to play as the attacking midfielder but Rooney ended up in his place.
Yesterday, Chelsea had the league wrapped up whilst it was also clear United was going to be fourth. Before today's meaningless fixtures I think it looked like this:
Rooney (12), Van Persie (10), Falcao (4) scored 26 Premier League goals combined ---> Manchester United finishes 4th.
Costa (19), Remy (5), Drogba (4) score 28 Premier League goals combined ---> Chelsea finishes 1st
Now of course Remy and Costa have scored today, but there's still not a big difference in goals between their strikers and our strikers. You could say some of Rooney's goals have come from midfield and discount them. But to me the numbers mainly show that our strikers haven't really been the problem this season. Of course they could've done better in some matches, but for me they're not really to blame. I'd say it's the rest of the team who needs EDIT: to raise /EDIT their level if we want to compete for the league next year.
Rooney (12), Van Persie (10), Falcao (4) scored 26 Premier League goals combined ---> Manchester United finishes 4th.
Costa (19), Remy (5), Drogba (4) score 28 Premier League goals combined ---> Chelsea finishes 1st
Now of course Remy and Costa have scored today, but there's still not a big difference in goals between their strikers and our strikers. You could say some of Rooney's goals have come from midfield and discount them. But to me the numbers mainly show that our strikers haven't really been the problem this season. Of course they could've done better in some matches, but for me they're not really to blame. I'd say it's the rest of the team who needs EDIT: to raise /EDIT their level if we want to compete for the league next year.
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I agree. While I don't condone Rooney's performance today, I do think we lack the ability to open up teams, at times. I mean, today we were happy with just passing it from side to side, without any real penetration through the middle.
I think next season Van Gaal needs to look at ways we can get our strikers involved in the game a lot more and how we can create more goalscoring opportunities.
Another leaden-footed display. Poor touch, wayward passing, one-paced and little-to-no goal threat. He needs a top striker pushing him because, best case scenario, he's become very complacent. Worse case, this is his terminal decline. We can't afford to assume he'll come good or we'll be lumbered with more of the same next year. A top striker is almost as important as a top centre back this summer.
Not sure he can keep his best level up anymore. He's not been on top form for too long and even though we are not creating much, he constantly loses the ball and is never involved.
Many still look at Rooney and rate him in the same way they used to rate him 6 years ago, he's lost many aspects of his game which made him really dangerous. He hasn't aged well at all. He has 5 top games each season but the rest he's either bang on average or even a liability when he has a really bad game like today. 3 seasons back he used to have these bad games but he would still grab a goal every now and then. He's even lost that. 
I think we need a striker that can be dangerous when running with the ball and keeps defenders on edge. A young Rooney.
I think we need a striker that can be dangerous when running with the ball and keeps defenders on edge. A young Rooney.
I think it's time for Wayne to part ways with the club personally. He's a great career with us. He's won a shed load of trophies. I have been critical of him in the past, and that's just because I don't see 'it'. And by 'it' I mean what everyone on this thread seems to see, or promises we will see.
There will be shortage of suitors, and he can get one last handsome contract, (probably not 300k...), but yea - I think he's peaked and we're seeing his decline. I'm happy to be wrong about this, but his performances aren't conducive to the team.
He's still a good player, but I don't think he's right for the team going forward.
There will be shortage of suitors, and he can get one last handsome contract, (probably not 300k...), but yea - I think he's peaked and we're seeing his decline. I'm happy to be wrong about this, but his performances aren't conducive to the team.
He's still a good player, but I don't think he's right for the team going forward.
He has lost so much pace over the years. That play in the corner vs the McShane is a good case in point. Rooney has the ball and cuts back with the outside of his foot towards the touchline, his touch his a bit heavy, and the defender beats him to the ball fairly easily. Afterwards he really should have been booked for the petulant kick-out.
Unless RvP has one last season in him I don't see how we compete without buying a top-notch striker for next season.
Unless RvP has one last season in him I don't see how we compete without buying a top-notch striker for next season.
Terrible overreaction as usual in this thread. I hate this place sometimes.
how?
Difficult to judge him on this seasons performance. Doing a job in various midfield positions for the team. Still top scorer at the club.
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A decent season overall, although not spectacular. He generally looked better when played up front, mainly because we didn't really have anyone else who was decent at putting the ball in the net, or looking at all dangerous up front. His performances in midfield were often quite mixed.
Can't blame Rooney when we don't ever create anything for the most part. All of our strikers have struggled because of lack of Chances. Obviously Rooney needs to take some responsibility for that as well as everyone else.
I don't think he's good enough to be our number one striker anymore.
Agreed. And we're gonna have a problem if he doesn't step it up next season. LVG needs to realise that Rooney needs competition - it will get him fired up. Call it reverse psychology or what but he always fights harder if he feels threatened. This 'undroppable' stance by LVG is no good for Rooney. How he hasn't noticed that or someone hasn't pointed it out to LVG is beyond my comprehension. Rooney's just not consistent enough nowadays, and to start with him as our focal point next season will be a big mistake.
Yep. His flicks, touches, dribbles just don't come off anymore and he rarely looks dangerous for the opposition. Rooney is capable of the one off performance still (against spurs for example), but like you say he is just not consistent enough at all. Making him captain was a huge mistake IMO.
Yeah this is true, but there's nothing to stop LVG from taking it back off him. It would probably benefit him in the long run. Don't get me wrong, I think he's handled it all right, but unfortunately it seems to hold him back in some ways....
We need an intense bastard as captain to be honest, someone who can inspire not for only a few select games but for the duration of the season. Unfortunately, not sure we have anyone else at the moment...
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