You've assumed that's how I feel mate, I'm just observing the situation as realistically as I can. I'm basing all my posts in how I read the supporter base as a whole, going off what I read on here, Red News, and bits of talk from when I went to United matches (not very often but a few). Also if we could avoid phrases like "Rooney hater" it would be good, I feel it breaks the discussion down unnecessarily; you can find fault with something someone has done without "hating" them or being a "hater". But if you think 2010 has little to do with how United fans regard him now at the time of his second "wobble", I think you just need to read through this thread to see otherwise.
What do you think the animosity is about? I haven't read all your posts but the only reasoning I can see for looking for other reasons is that Best and Keane were better players who were treated differently. I feel I've addressed that point and I don't see what other factors you could be talking about.
Disagree fundamentally with your bit in bold. We won the league that year but in October the club was clearly disrupted. See Ferguson at the time. If Rooney hadn't disrupted anything he wouldn't have had to apologize to his teammates, surely.
He, if I say that most Bulgarian dock workers make less a year than Wayne Rooney, do I then imply that Wayne Rooney is a Bulgarian dock worker? I don't think you're a Rooney hater, my point is that these Rooney haters don't regard the 2010 incident in the same light as you - who see the incident as something of principal importance.
And, fair enough, let's call them something else. Hopefully most fans have better things to do than to hate a man they've never met.
Next, I never said 2010 had little to do with how the fans regard him - it does have something to do with it. But I don't see it as a sufficient reason to explain the intense hat...sorry, dislike so many display against Rooney. The latter is more than simply finding faults with him, by the way. That is far from what I'm talking about here.
Why do they dislike him so much? I don't know. He's the most divisive player (for a player at his level, anyway) we've had for as long as I can remember. So it must be something. Whatever it is, I personally think it has something to do with the fact that Rooney isn't a Ronaldo or Messi style world beater. Many of our fans are very demanding. They want the best of the best - and they had that, in Ronaldo. Then he left and Rooney was suddenly our main asset. And he just wasn't as devastatingly good. And we were worse off, as a team. It became painfully obvious that we were behind, we lacked something. I think many felt that way. There are many reasons, some perfectly legitimate, others less so - but the fact that Rooney isn't the kind of player many would prefer to see as United's leading man has something to do with it.
Finally, your definition of "disruption" differs from mine, then. And if we were truly disrupted by this - surely a big, fat finger must be pointed at the club, at Fergie himself, for agreeing to Rooney's terms? I would rather think that Fergie, once again, knew what he was doing. He gave Rooney what he wanted because he needed his services - to win. And win he did. If he had suspected the move would damage us long-term I refuse to believe he would've sanctioned it.
