Certainly before my time! But wins like saturday are good for the competition. There were a few dead finals in the last 15-20 years, but I feel like the prestige is returning a little. When City beat watford 6 nil I genuinely thought that could be the end of interest in it
Was that FA Cup win more satisfying than some of our titles?
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Certainly before my time! But wins like saturday are good for the competition. There were a few dead finals in the last 15-20 years, but I feel like the prestige is returning a little. When City beat watford 6 nil I genuinely thought that could be the end of interest in it
Personally I often find FA Cup & CL final wins more exciting than winning the PL just because of the jeopardy on the day (with the exception of Millwall in 04). Often when we've won the PL, you start to gradually realise that it's going happen over a period of a few weeks until it is eventually confirmed with a few games to spare before the end of the season (last day PL drama was a rarity with us). Whereas when the full time whistle was blown on Saturday, the sheer elation at that moment can rarely be eclipsed. That feeling of satisfaction was obviously intensified given who the opposition was! I am aware that this could be recency bias, but I do love a good cup final win - eg Moscow was a better feeling than any PL title in my lifetime.
Saturday was the most satisfying trophy we’ve won since Fergie retired. But it doesn’t scratch the surface of a title win. Nowhere near.
EL under Mourinho was far more important and satisfying imo. A European trophy we had never won before was really special.
Lets delete this thread and pretend like it never happened?
Better than the treble
An FA Cup win is great, but it doesn’t come close to a league title win. Surely this thread is a WUM?
FA Cup will always trump the Europa League for me. More history, more prestige and a better calibre of teams to best along the way.
EL was nice and all, but it’s a comp for clubs who finish 5th and 6th in their leagues. We didn’t get to beat our two biggest rivals to win it either.
CL teams will drop to EL if they finish 3rd in the group.
So you’ve got the teams who weren’t good enough to finish top 4 in their leagues and the teams who weren’t good enough to finish top 2 in their CL groups.
Prestigious.
Eh... Compared to FA Cup? I am afraid no comparison here. It's silly.
The FA Cup has all the best teams in England in it. It isn’t a runners up cup and if any of those teams lose a game, they are out.
The EL doesn’t have any of the 4 best teams from anywhere in it. It’s by definition - a runners up cup. A handful of underperforming second chancers getting in the back door after flopping in the big cup doesn’t change that.
Don’t get me wrong - I was happy when we won the EL and I’m happy we’ve qualified for next years. That’s the level we’re at currently.
But the idea that it’s more prestigious than the FA Cup, the oldest cup competition in football, is utterly ridiculous to me.
But the idea that it’s more prestigious than the FA Cup, the oldest cup competition in football, is utterly ridiculous to me.
Yes, the greatest cup win in history. Nothing will ever come close. This was better than the treble.
Idk. It's the second tier European trophy. Novelty isn't enough to make it important or satisfying to me. It was enjoyable for me but not for that reason. We've never won the Papa John's EFL Trophy either but if we got relegated twice in the next two seasons then won it I wouldn't call it more important or special than winning the FA Cup just because we've never won it before. With United's resources we should be competing higher than the Europa League or Papa John's trophies. The FA Cup is the biggest English cup tournament. It's more special than the Europa League imo.
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Yeah man, we get it. Ten Hag is ace. Let's see what the club reckons.
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Things to celebrate.
Two of our teenage academy graduates, along with a further 3 from the academy, triumphed over a crooked state owned machine.
EOT
Two of our teenage academy graduates, along with a further 3 from the academy, triumphed over a crooked state owned machine.
EOT
I actually forgot that we play in the community shield now by winning the FA cup 
So we’ve screwed over, Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle.
So we’ve screwed over, Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle.Absolutely. The thing I celebrated the most is that finally we could defeat that bald cnut that has been making our lives miserable since 2009 and seems to have a fecking personal vendetta against us by staying at that fecking shithole of a club more years than even at his freaking hometown club.
Edit. My title says SOME of our titles. Don't know which was the original title
Edit. My title says SOME of our titles. Don't know which was the original title
I actually forgot that we play in the community shield now by winning the FA cup
My first instinct is to dismiss the Community Shield as important.
But the way Arsenal fans have been going on about it since the end of the season, you’re right - they must be gutted.
So satisfied with his post that he had to copy it to several threads despite arguing in bad faith to make his post look good.
Ye it’s obviously not an important one but it’s another day out for the fans and another derby.
I think this for me comes in around the 1985 FA Cup final win vs Everton.
Which is one of my favorite victories with United. Even then we beat Liverpool on our route, overturning a 1-0 deficit in the semi-final replay. We weren’t used to winning the biggest stuff either. Moran historically redcarded (actually rather pointed off the field) made the Whiteside extra time goal even more glorious.
Now it’s 11 years since we won a league, yeah, it feels great to beat the league winner in the FA Cup final. For my kids, this is tje giggest triumph they have witnessed in their life. Losing so many finals and semifinals under Ole, the cup final loss last season, and being ridiculed by City for so long makes it all the more important and sweet. This has been an absurd and frustrating season, but the highlight reel from it has the potential to become a classic, with the goals of Garnacho, Mainoo, Bruno, Rashford, Amad, Toone, the cup wins vs Liverpool (men) and Chelsea (women), the achievements of the U18 team, the Cup final victories of the women 4-0 vs Spurs and finally the men 2-1 vs that smirking face of ‘if anythingillegal was done by the club, I would quit’ Guardiola. We’ll look back on it in happier days, some of us maybe thinking ‘that’s when we knew how sweet an FA Cup could taste.’
Not being the favourite in one game does not make Manchester United a "plucky underdog" of a club. If you are not the biggest club in the world, you're in the top 3.
And I posted that in reply to the original thread title and OP, before they changed both. It was previously "is this one of our greatest ever achievements".
You’re missing my point. I never said it was more important than the FA Cup. I said it was more significant in the post SAF era. It was the first time in the clubs history that we’d won that trophy, which then meant Manchester United had won every single trophy available.
Winning on Saturday was brilliant. But it was our 13th win in that competition.
For me winning the EL was the most significant trophy post Fergie.
It's obvious we haven't won a major trophy in seven years the way some of you are going on. It's understandable I suppose but get real.
Every trophy feels amazing in real time and the days after. I remember being over the moon in 2004 when we beat fecking Millwall in the FA Cup, it was the same when we beat Spurs in the 2009 Carling cup despite being reigning CL champions.
Every trophy feels amazing in real time and the days after. I remember being over the moon in 2004 when we beat fecking Millwall in the FA Cup, it was the same when we beat Spurs in the 2009 Carling cup despite being reigning CL champions.
You can believe this genuinely.
You can believe City don't matter, genuinely.
You cannot hold these 2 beliefs at the same time. You have to pick one.
For me the 1999 FA Cup, though not necessarily the final. That United vs Arsenal semi final fixture with the Giggs goal was absolutely magic, a memory etched into my brain as a 10 year old getting to go to a pub watching United. The celebrations were immense.
Compared to limping past Coventry... no contest.
No, not for me, because we lost last year when it mattered the most and could have stopped their treble. At least this win has the bonus of sending us back to Europe, as well as knocking down Chelsea and Newcastle. The Coventry embarrassment also washed over the Liverpool win to some extent.
Yes, because FA Cup is a bigger trophy than Carabao Cup. But not as significant as an EPL win or European competition.
yeah that semi final was an epic, but the 4-3 against liverpool this year almost gave a sense of name on trophy. a truly memorable old trafford day
8th place, a negative goal difference, missing multiple players to injury, and going up against a team owned by an oil emirate that just won its 4th title in a row made us a plucky underdog
Us being one of the biggest clubs in the world didn’t really matter in the moment there
I think of Wimbledon in 88 or Wigan in 2013 as plucky underdogs. Not you lot because Luke Shaw and Casemiro were injured and you had a crap league season.
It just can't compare, a title is just too big.
The CL is the only trophy comparable with a PL title. I would swap a title for 3 FA cups honestly.
The CL is the only trophy comparable with a PL title. I would swap a title for 3 FA cups honestly.
Not for me. I actually even find the question/suggestion/implication embarrassing
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Ah, but you see - we had a higher 'expected goals against' and more shots faced than some of the relegated teams this season, so are we really too dissimilar from 2013 Wigan?
Let's see if anyone mentions how much money our squad cost.
Ah, but you see - we had a higher 'expected goals against' and more shots faced than some of the relegated teams this season, so are we really too dissimilar from 2013 Wigan?
Let's see if anyone mentions how much money our squad cost.
Taking into account that City were unbeaten in their previous 115 games and we just got relegated to League One, I think it was bigger than the treble and Cantona’s Olympic gold in Kung Fu combined 
I guess we just have a different definition of what constitutes an underdog.