Sounds like a fever dream.
Vincent Kompany | Bayern Munich Manager
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It could be but on the outside it looks crazy.
Don’t care about his stint with Burnley. The question is, wether his personality and tactics fit a club like ours. Tactically, what I’m reading sounds encouraging. I can’t judge his personality, though.
I don’t mind the signing. Wouldn’t be shocked, if it turned out well, wouldn’t be shocked if it didn’t. But considering the amount of top managers we went through lately, getting someone like him might make sense.
I don’t mind the signing. Wouldn’t be shocked, if it turned out well, wouldn’t be shocked if it didn’t. But considering the amount of top managers we went through lately, getting someone like him might make sense.
They would have gotten relegated regardless.
I like his personality. Very driven. Workaholic. He sounds authoritative and influential when you listen to him speak.
Probably but when you compared their season to Luton it's incredibly underwhelming. They spent a lot more money and did better in the championship, yet were above Luton maybe once or twice in the season. Luton lost a lot but they also showed a certain amount of grit that Burnley just never really showed. Burnley's football was okay at times but their campaign came across as naïve. You don't have to ditch the entire philosophy but in a season where Everton finished on 40pts in 15th, the levels weren't all that high. Burnley spent a lot of money last summer, I don't recall a newly promoted team spending so much.
That sounds promising.
The 40 points to stay up thing is a myth and 40 points is a false total for our 'level' as that includes deductions, otherwise 15th would be Wolves with 46 points. You only need about 35-37ish to stay up now. This year you would have needed 37 (without deductions). But yes, Burnley finished 4 wins off that pace with only 5 wins in total across the season which is terrible.
The necessary points total changes each year, 40 is a good benchmark and a nice round number. The bottom 3 were quite weak this season but next year it could be different.
You'll be fine.... He's a decent manager
You're right but as you say they were miles off it and miles off even being remotely competitive to having a sniff of staying up. Relegation is relegation but there was nothing impressive about Burnley this season in my opinion.
Indeed but I think the competition of the rest of the league now means that it's no surprise that teams finish with 35 points and under and the average needed is only around 36 rather than the mythical 40.
I agree, they were complete rubbish. The only times I was impressed by them was with individual bits of quality rather than the team.
Had a look at the Burnley forum yesterday and they are overjoyed he's going and can't believe they're getting compensation for him.
Personally think he's another below average manager who's only achievement is winning the championship with loads more resources than his competition in the league (exact same for Leicester this season). It might be that Bayern are using him as placeholder until next season when they can get a better manager.
Personally think he's another below average manager who's only achievement is winning the championship with loads more resources than his competition in the league (exact same for Leicester this season). It might be that Bayern are using him as placeholder until next season when they can get a better manager.
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What an absolutely odd one. 
Could be a genius move or one where they get rid of him after a year (in case the rumours are true).
Bayern really moves in unorthodox ways when it comes to managers.
It kinda feels like Bayern want someone there short term. Some of their moves are a bit weird this summer. They went after Ralf Rangnick, and more amazingly he turned them down, and there must be a reason for that. And when they changed their mind about Tuchel, they didn't want to give him a longer contract. I wonder if they just want someone on the cheap short term.
If your players don't Hollywood FC him, and actually engage in his principles, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he succeeds with you.
His philosophy is sound and Burnley played very good football relative to their squad in the PL, but the problem for them is those unyielding principles left them with too much to do - better players would have been more able to make lemonade from those proverbial lemons.
What's terrible for Burnley is sticking to those principles has proven to be massively fortuitous for their manager, but it left them in the lurch and relegated. They would probably have been relegated anyway, but the sticking to principles too big for the collective, guaranteed it. You can imagine Burnley are angry with this appointment.
Kompany knows more about elite setups and football than most players making the switch. If he has the managerial nous, a lot of it could prove to transferable.
Their recent rounds of hiring and sacking managers doesnt really indicate much excellence on their end. They’ve known for a long time that they need a new manager, which would suggest their top of the list candidates arent available
kompany would be a cheap punt they can get rid off in a year without a big payout.
Imho, I think that Bayern neglected their team for last few years. Maybe he will be good transitional manager for them till they clean the house.
Kane really fecked him self if its true.
Kane really fecked him self if its true.
Yeah I wouldn’t want to be the club director that has to break the news to him that Bayern are entering a rebuild.
I think its a good move. The Bundesliga is more akin to the Championship. Yes better quality but there are a few top teams and a lot of sht ones. Attacking football can work like Burnley and McKenna managed in the Championship and can work in Germany as proven by Leverkusen. Not sure it will work in the Champions League.
I recently made a comment with regards to McKenna, saying that a bad season in the PL could do him harm (in terms of staying with Ipswich), and I used Kompany as an example. How wrong was I, though Bayern are obviously capable of seeing past a poor season with a poor team - perhaps this is his Klopp at Mainz moment? He was really highly rated before this season and had instilled a dominant style of play at Burnley - a far cry for the type of football they were previously associated with. Despite the poor season and relegation, Burnley have tried to stay true to the football that got them promoted and have been reasonably sound as a possession based side. If I recall, they had more possession than us in both of our games, and the second game was after Wilcox had apparently told ETH to implement a possession based style of play.
It could be a stroke of genius for Bayern, or it could be a bit 'meh'. I personally don't see him being a complete disaster because he seems to be quite smart tactically, and he should hold the respect of the players given he recently captained Man City. I think the worst case scenario would be him just not getting them playing quite well enough and not winning trophies, but like I said, I can't see him tanking there even if it is a big step up for him.
It could be a stroke of genius for Bayern, or it could be a bit 'meh'. I personally don't see him being a complete disaster because he seems to be quite smart tactically, and he should hold the respect of the players given he recently captained Man City. I think the worst case scenario would be him just not getting them playing quite well enough and not winning trophies, but like I said, I can't see him tanking there even if it is a big step up for him.
From relegation with Burnley to Bayern Munich manager. What the feck.
I'm sorry Dyche, it's not quite the same.
Poor Dyche
If Kompany wins the Bundesliga does that mean the Bundesliga is equivalent to the championships?
Yes or yes?
Yes or yes?
Why is this still appearing on my phone and computer? This is a dream. I am dreaming, right? The Bayern Munich of Omar Hitzfeld, Jupp Heynckes and Udo Lattek is going out to hire a manager who's one success is winning the Championship?
This has to be them not giving up on Alonso and hoping he takes them on next season.
This has to be them not giving up on Alonso and hoping he takes them on next season.
The only thing I can think of here is that he's a highly rated manager and they need someone for next season. Perhaps a short term contract (2-3? years) with the possibility of them being able to get out at the end of the season and targeting someone like Alonso or -insert other- or keeping Kompany if he does better than expected.
What if Bayern are signing him as player-manager?
He could still do a job
He could still do a job
Who is his agent?
I think more we're seeing the shift towards head coaches who have zero say in anything other than coaching. Younger, cheaper and probably, given how different today's players are, more able to relate to modern pampered footballers, these are the guys who will form the next manager merry go round.
It would mean that Kompany can manage a top club in the context of its league to win it. Like he said:
I think that's a fair assessment. The quality of the leagues is definitely a big difference, but the structure of the league is comparable.
Isn't having few top teams and a lot of dross normal for every league? Just a quick check: the bottom half in each of the "top 4" leagues looks underwhelming.
How could I forget, especially with their points deduction
Isn’t Uli Hoeness a convict? Why did Bayern take him back?
Because the members still love(d) him and voted him back into office.
Just looked it up, he got 98,5% of their votes, and nobody else tried to become president when he returned: https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2016/11/hoeness-bayern-president-again
Gonna be very weird for Kane. He'll have played against him relatively recently and now he's his manager.
no manager in the world would turn down Bayern fecking Munich for Burnley come on
Oh I get it. But Burnley fans could rightly be annoyed at his absolute commitment to his methods, then scooting off when they get relegated.