Only way we have a prayer of signing him is if we win the EL.
Viktor Gyökeres
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Pretty much and even then it's still a hopeful one.
We may be more financially flexible, if we win the EL, but he still has to want to join us.
He'll have numerous top clubs competing for his signature in the summer.
The chance to compete for trophies is obviously a consideration as well, but its only one of many factors, otherwise clubs outside the top 4 would never get very good players. Newcastle for instance broke their transfer record on Isak after finishing in the lower half of the table the preceding year. If Gyokeres and Amorim have an existing relationship, you can bet the house it will be a major factor if he ends up coming here.
I think we're easily able to compete with other top teams for younger and older players. They can either look at the long term (like Yoro) or can more go on sentimentality. It's the players that are currently in their prime that I'm not sure about (let's say 26-29yo) as we're obviously years from truly competing at the very top. If they've got the choice between walking into a team and instantly competing for the PL and CL or joining us and potentially not reaching that level until they are already coming out of their prime, it's a tough sell. Not impossible so I am hopeful he'll join us, but it's a significant disadvantage. Even as a huge Utd fan I think I'd join Arsenal ahead of Utd if I were 27yo (like Gyokeres will be by the time next season starts), and if I weren't a Utd fan I'd also go to either Liverpool or City before us.
Isak is interesting when Newcastle signed him for quite a bit of money he was coming off a 10 goal season and he'd never got 20+ goals so there is likely a reason other clubs weren't convinced about the money
Do you really think many would complain? I would not. We saw on countless examples that the big price players don’t work at this club in it’s current crisis. Bring in middle priced players with less pressure and improve them. People blame Hojlund, he isn’t the problem. People blame Antony, he isn’t the problem. You could go on forever
Has got nothing to do with our crisis. We scouted badly and were even worse at negotiating. We just signed players that are not good enough for heavy sums. That doesn't mean that players like Osimhen or Gyokeres will automatically flop in our setup.
You're right but people equate the wrong things to manager/player success/failure. We signed high cost plyers who didn't work, therefore, never sign players of high cost. We signed big names before and they didn't work....don't buy prime Aguero and Maldini - big names don't work at this club. What utter nonsense. It just shows a lack of depth in thinking, just big generalisations like boring pundits who don't actually analyse anything just throw around general terms.
We have signed players of all reputations, values, etc. and some have worked, some haven't. The individuals are the reason they didn't work, not their status in the game, their price, etc. We signed "Prem proven" Schneiderlin, we signed up and coming Depay, we signed big stars Pogba, we signed English Maguire, we signed lesser known and cheap Dan James, etc. they work or don't work for different reasons other than these tags people attribute to them. Bastian Schweinsteiger didn't work out but if 30 year old Toni Kroos was available, we shouldn't sign him because we had a German legend fail before? It's silly.
I like the idea of having either of Gyokeres or Osimhen, but do not know who will bring the best to this team.
Can someone explain who will be the better option to suit Amorim's system and the players we have currently.
Can someone explain who will be the better option to suit Amorim's system and the players we have currently.
Doesn't matter. Either of them would massively improve us and both suit this system.
At that time, Isak wasn’t as well known name striker as Gyokeres is now. Despite of playing in Portuguese league, lot of pundits are talking about Gyokeres and mentions him as top striker. No one was talking big about Isak at that time.
If arsenal want him, we’re likely to lose him because they have far more guaranteed squad to challenge the league and UCL than us. But if arsenal prefer someone else and our competition is chelsea (assume if we win Europa league and chelsea finished 5th, then I fancy our chance to convince Gyokeres to come).
Maybe I need to watch more videos, but I'm a bit concerned about how much of the open play goals he has scored that was preceded by him running a considerable distance with the ball. I'm not seeing enough headers, volleys, and first time finishes.
Any back-heel’s?
Now there is rumor his release clause is £60m. His agent will be super busy negotiate with Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd to get the best deal for his client.
Story is that the new Sporting Director at Arsenal is a massive fan and is pushing to make him his first signing and Gyokeres has indicated he is willing to come. It has been reported that no CL football is a deal breaker for him so if we want to try and compete for his signature we have to win the Europa and the problem is that even if we do it might be too late as he might already have agreed to join Arsenal.
Not quite right, it’s a gentleman’s agreement
Yeah no one in their right mind would choose us over Arsenal
Chido Obi Martin and Ayden Heaven did, so never say never. It also depends on how the sport director sells the project to the player and his agent, and the financial package matters too.
False statement. For every transfer the situation is different.
Who’s won more silverware in recent years?
Two cups heh!
I think he’s Arsenal bound. Only way I see him join us is if we make CL - and even then, from his perspective, I feel Arsenal is ready made for him.
Happy to get Osimhen if we could make other Champions League, otherwise it's all in on hoping Delap can make that enormous transition.
Gyokeres Bruno Amad
Ugarte Cunha
Dorgu -------------------- New dude
Yoro DeLigt Mazzroui
New Dude (Diogo Costa)
Ugarte Cunha
Dorgu -------------------- New dude
Yoro DeLigt Mazzroui
New Dude (Diogo Costa)
Why wouldn't you just play the centre forward at centre forward?
That's the plan. I didnt bother too much with the positioning as Amorim's system is weird.
The bits I read about Quenda stated that the player wants to play wing long term and not wing-back, which is what Chelsea offered him versus how he would be used under Amorim.
Can’t you lads (& Pool) just focus on destabilising Newcastle by trying to sign Isak? Leave Gyokeres for us
Yeah. And they need him as badly as us. Arsenal's impressive run on CL will also a big deciding factor.
Unless of course, if he comes from a 7 generations of massive United fan family.
If anyone can handle playing two positions at once - as a goalie and outfield player, no less - then it’s New Dude.
Also cheaper to buy one and have him in two positions!i think arsenal could be a major stumbling block to landing this lad.....they'll be able to offer enough salary wise plus CL football to make the deal enticing enough
seems pretty inevitable that if we don't win the Europa league, he's going elsewhere
seems pretty inevitable that if we don't win the Europa league, he's going elsewhere
I believe Gyokeres or Sesko are more realistic options than Isak.Can’t you lads (& Pool) just focus on destabilising Newcastle by trying to sign Isak? Leave Gyokeres for us
There's been certain Portuguese media saying for a while his 3 choices in England are Arsenal, City & Liverpool.
Im never sure if any of their media is reliable mind you, I mean would be strange going to City from.his perspective.
Im never sure if any of their media is reliable mind you, I mean would be strange going to City from.his perspective.
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What I’ve seen of the media here is mostly Arsenal and Chelsea.
City makes no sense, they have Haaland.
How time’s have changed man. We used to mock Arsenal over their crappy cups
Last time we were in the CL semi final was 15 years ago…
Yeah, no doubt. I was half jesting. Not sure what Newcastle’s PSR position is like but I’m not sure them selling Isak is even an option.
This was from the other day, I'd seen it mentioned before as well.
I totally agree City would make no sense, and like I said, they reports are probably not reliable at all.
Last summer, the striker was keen on staying to play in the Champions League and fight for a second title. Now he has announced that he really wants to leave, despite his contract running until 2028. Sporting SAD has lowered the release clause from 100 million euros to 70 million but is convinced that the deal will be higher, as it foresees an auction that could inflate it. Arsenal , Liverpool and City in England; Real and Barcelona in Spain; PSG in France; Bayern in Germany are the goalscorer's preferred destinations.
https://www.abola.pt/futebol/notici...entre-sporting-e-gyokeres-2025042022132014659
We also used to mock them while winning major trophies ourselves. Arsenal have only been in the semifinals once in the past 15 years, which is this season only. Before that was 08-09. So it’s a silly point by you. And your original comment was a silly comment.
It’s only silly because you’re a fan.
You can probably do a survey of “neutrals” and everyone would agree choosing a club in disarray hovering just above relegation with a new manager every 2 seasons and firing everyone like DOGE over the club currently in the semi finals of the CL with a stable manager, exciting players and fighting for the title for the past 3 seasons, is crazy.
Honestly I’m surprised I have to justify my post. Y’all need to move out of the Utd bubble, kids under 20 don’t even remember the glory days, it’s been a long time.