Viktor Gyökeres

Raoul said:
I have faith in Amorim’s relationship with Gyokeres to get this done
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That didn't work well with Quenda I guess? On a surface level view of the situation at least. As always, I think this is going to be driven more by money and a CL position. Gyokeres is in his prime and probably wanting the biggest payday he can get, and with his clinical finishing and the dearth at the position he'll be in a great position.
 
DavelinaJolie said:
That didn't work well with Quenda I guess? On a surface level view of the situation at least. As always, I think this is going to be driven more by money and a CL position. Gyokeres is in his prime and probably wanting the biggest payday he can get, and with his clinical finishing and the dearth at the position he'll be in a great position.
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I think Chelsea just made an absurd offer that Sporting couldn’t turn down, where the player could stay in Portugal until 2026. That’s obviously not going to work with Gyokeres who is 26 and earns about 40kpw. This is the right time for him to move with a long term contract that takes him into his 30s. His goals per game will probably get him a contract that pays well into the 200s.
 
dinostar77 said:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...m-delap-became-man-united-top-transfer-target

"..With a €100 million release clause in Gyökeres' contract at Sporting, the cost of pursuing the 26-year-old is regarded as prohibitive by United. The potential fee and a poor track record of strikers moving from the Portuguese league to the Premier League , has diminished interest in the Sweden international..."
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Tbf, if anyone actually thought we'd have to meet the €100m release clause there'd rightly be no interest in the deal.

But the reports as recently as yesterday have been that he'll leave for around €65m-€70m.



The money might still be prohibitive (in terms of combined fee and wages) when compared to someone like Delap, but it's not quite as bad as quoting the release clause suggests.
 
dinostar77 said:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...m-delap-became-man-united-top-transfer-target

"..With a €100 million release clause in Gyökeres' contract at Sporting, the cost of pursuing the 26-year-old is regarded as prohibitive by United. The potential fee and a poor track record of strikers moving from the Portuguese league to the Premier League , has diminished interest in the Sweden international..."
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That was posted weeks ago and wasnt particularly convincing at the time because they seemed to have built a selective narrative around what appears to be a wrong release clause number. I also don’t believe any journo knows who United will buy, which makes articles like this little more than a thinly veiled advocacy piece for Delap by the author.
 
All the clubs that want Gyokeres will be able to give as much as games time he wants. Therefore, we can’t use playing minutes reason to convince the player to choose us. This makes our chance to sign Gyokeres very slim because the other clubs are in much better position than us in term of winning major trophies.
 
I think the club should go all out for Gyokeres. It is such an important specialist position and can turn around morale/performances within games very quickly if he starts scoring.

When was the last time we actually pursued an out and out goalscorer who is ready to go? I would not put Hojlund in that bracket as he was more for the future. Probably Lukaku in 17/18. So that means we havent really signed anyone properly upfront for 7-8 years.

It needs to be addressed. Even if it means we only have money for him and no one else during the summer window. We can sort the other positions at a later window. The number 9 needs fixing first.
 
We can definitely get him over Arsenal. The appeal of joining us is far greater than over that at London. But Chelsea getting involved is worrying. Can see them snapping him off our hands just like they did with Quenda. We need to act fast on this.
 
He is him. The kind of striker that will elevate the team. Full focus should be on Gyokeres, even if the fee is higher. Not Osimhen or that Delap kid.
 
sullydnl said:
Tbf, if anyone actually thought we'd have to meet the €100m release clause there'd rightly be no interest in the deal.

But the reports as recently as yesterday have been that he'll leave for around €65m-€70m.



The money might still be prohibitive (in terms of combined fee and wages) when compared to someone like Delap, but it's not quite as bad as quoting the release clause suggests.
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£55m pounds is a no brainer, and I think the club/Amorim would agree. The problem will surely come down to convincing him to join us over all others.
 
DavelinaJolie said:
That didn't work well with Quenda I guess? On a surface level view of the situation at least. As always, I think this is going to be driven more by money and a CL position. Gyokeres is in his prime and probably wanting the biggest payday he can get, and with his clinical finishing and the dearth at the position he'll be in a great position.
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I doubt its just about the CL probably wants to win something and we are a million miles away from winning either the league or CL
 
ZainCRse7en said:
We can definitely get him over Arsenal. The appeal of joining us is far greater than over that at London. But Chelsea getting involved is worrying. Can see them snapping him off our hands just like they did with Quenda. We need to act fast on this.
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What? Arsenal are one of the favourites for the CL and are a goalscorer away from being a title contender and are miles ahead of us and Chelsea in that regard
 
Gavinb33 said:
What? Arsenal are one of the favourites for the CL and are a goalscorer away from being a title contender and are miles ahead of us and Chelsea in that regard
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Are they one of the favourites? I mean technically they’d be 3rd, which sounds good but there’s only 4 teams left.
 
Gavinb33 said:
Bookies have Arsenal 2nd favourite from the quick look I've just had
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They’re 3rd on skybet, but only just behind psg. Either way I take your point, arsenal are a better attraction right now. Depends how much he really cares about playing for Amorim and for a historically bigger club. We do also seem to have a knack of winning things even in crisis, which arsenal can’t really say. That’s about all we have to offer that arsenal can’t.
 
Raoul said:
I have faith in Amorim’s relationship with Gyokeres to get this done
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So then the dream setup, provided we can offload some players, would be this because there's a feck ton of goals in this front 3:

--------------- Gyokeres -----------------
--------- Bruno -------- Cunha --------
 
What chance do we really have here, if other big clubs are in for him? The Champions League is not yet secured, we are years off challenging for the big trophies, and we have shown over the last couple of years, that we don't create many chances for our strikers.

Maybe United still have some sway and there is the Amorim factor, but it would be a long shot in Arsenal were in for him, I would imagine.
 
Mike Smalling said:
What chance do we really have here, if other big clubs are in for him? The Champions League is not yet secured, we are years off challenging for the big trophies, and we have shown over the last couple of years, that we don't create many chances for our strikers.

Maybe United still have some sway and there is the Amorim factor, but it would be a long shot in Arsenal were in for him, I would imagine.
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My hope is that Arteta thinks he's above a striker who scores loads of goals. Which is a sneaking suspicion of mine about a few managers. It's too straightforward and obvious for them.
 
Mike Smalling said:
What chance do we really have here, if other big clubs are in for him? The Champions League is not yet secured, we are years off challenging for the big trophies, and we have shown over the last couple of years, that we don't create many chances for our strikers.

Maybe United still have some sway and there is the Amorim factor, but it would be a long shot in Arsenal were in for him, I would imagine.
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None at the moment. Our chances of landing this guy rest on Amorim though if we end scooping up the Europa league that gives the whole deal a further boost.
 
If he is available for €65m and Cunha’s buyout is £62m, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to pursue Cunha over him. Ideally, we get both plus a midfielder. I am ok to postpone signing a RWB and CB to the next season.
 
Waynne said:
So then the dream setup, provided we can offload some players, would be this because there's a feck ton of goals in this front 3:

--------------- Gyokeres -----------------
--------- Bruno -------- Cunha --------
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I’d say Amad instead of Bruno, Cunha on the left and Bruno deep would be best.
 
Tallis said:
If he is available for €65m and Cunha’s buyout is £62m, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to pursue Cunha over him. Ideally, we get both plus a midfielder. I am ok to postpone signing a RWB and CB to the next season.
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I agree. Dalot can do a job. Whether Dorgu can time will tell. But these two plus a CM would be a priority. GK, WB next summer.
 
65 for Gyokeres, 30 for Delap, 62 for Cunha...they are all just guesstimates that everyone is taking for gospel.
 
RuudTom83 said:
65 for Gyokeres, 30 for Delap, 62 for Cunha...they are all just guesstimates that everyone is taking for gospel.
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The 65 for Gyok is apparently Euros - so that's about £55m, which is a very low release clause for a player who scores better than a goal per game.
 
Raoul said:
The 65 for Gyok is apparently Euros - so that's about £55m, which is a very low release clause for a player who scores better than a goal per game.
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The release clause is 100m euros, but there’s talks there is an agreement to be sold for less than that.
 
Raoul said:
The 65 for Gyok is apparently Euros - so that's about £55m, which is a very low release clause for a player who scores better than a goal per game.
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No way. If that's anywhere close to accurate, it must be done. Crazy deal. Hope Amorim still has his WhatsApp!
 
He would be batshit crazy going to United at this stage of the career. I advise us and him not to do it
 
doomy20 said:
He would be batshit crazy going to United at this stage of the career. I advise us and him not to do it
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Why? Because he’s good?

So we sign a lesser player, they don’t perform as well, we complain United don’t sign quality anymore, call him average and “championship quality” - bemoan United’s recruitment and pine over him going elsewhere and doing much better and wish we’d signed him instead? Is that how it works?
 
I don't think we have much chance without UCL, and even then it's still not close to being a sure thing

joining United at this stage in his career is a major risk if he wants to be competing for trophies
 
Tarrou said:
I don't think we have much chance without UCL, and even then it's still not close to being a sure thing

joining United at this stage in his career is a major risk if he wants to be competing for trophies
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The way that we need to sell it to him is that he would be coming here to elevate us and get us competing for trophies. He's got a chance to be 'the main man' at the club and potentially a club legend if he is able to get us back into regular Champions League football or even the title race. He would be playing every game and, in this system, he'll be the central focal point of the team and has a chance to score tons of goals.
 
Superunknown said:
The way that we need to sell it to him is that he would be coming here to elevate us and get us competing for trophies. He's got a chance to be 'the main man' at the club and potentially a club legend if he is able to get us back into regular Champions League football or even the title race. He would be playing every game and, in this system, he'll be the central focal point of the team and has a chance to score tons of goals.
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yeah for sure, to be honest the one person I'd want for that job is Amorim so maybe we can get this done

if the team can win the europa then it's gonna make his job 10 times easier
 
Tarrou said:
I don't think we have much chance without UCL, and even then it's still not close to being a sure thing

joining United at this stage in his career is a major risk if he wants to be competing for trophies
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I think United fans in the post Fergie era consistently downplay the attraction of other players wanting to play for United. Most players in their prime today were kids watching United from the tail end of the CR7 era and into the RvP and Zlatan/Pogba period. They know the stature and history of the club.

People also seem to casually ignore the importance of human connections between managers and players. Amorim went into this season coaching Gyokeres and already has an existing relationship with him, therefore both sides know the value of working with the other.

These two factors will override all others imo.
 
DeGea said:
I think the club should go all out for Gyokeres. It is such an important specialist position and can turn around morale/performances within games very quickly if he starts scoring.

When was the last time we actually pursued an out and out goalscorer who is ready to go? I would not put Hojlund in that bracket as he was more for the future. Probably Lukaku in 17/18. So that means we havent really signed anyone properly upfront for 7-8 years.

It needs to be addressed. Even if it means we only have money for him and no one else during the summer window. We can sort the other positions at a later window. The number 9 needs fixing first.
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We did sign a certain Cristiano Ronaldo back in 2021.

I agree with the rest, though. All in on Gyökeres!
 
Raoul said:
I think United fans in the post Fergie era consistently downplay the attraction of other players wanting to play for United. Most players in their prime today were kids watching United from the tail end of the CR7 era and into the RvP and Zlatan/Pogba period. They know the stature and history of the club.

People also seem to casually ignore the importance of human connections between managers and players. Amorim went into this season coaching Gyokeres and already has an existing relationship with him, therefore both sides know the value of working with the other.

These two factors will override all others imo.
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No way these are sentimental issues, the facts are trophies what trophies can I win and how many times trump any of the reasons you put 100%, if I was a player it would be the only thing I'd care about without fail, we used to be the team players could pin their hat on winning trophies at we aren't anymore it's ok to say that
 
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