Good game again, calm and composed. Game after game his confidence is building up and it's showing.
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Starting to look like a proper player. Quite a turnaround. Hope it continues.
good performance. he looked very confident.
dont know but each time he had the ball, I always want him to make long pass.
dont know but each time he had the ball, I always want him to make long pass.
Very good again. Fair to say he has quite settled here.
String of solid performances..keep it up lad!
I never said Opta rating systems. I said Opta based rating systems.
De Bruyne did a 6-7 performance.
Key passes is a useless metric in this case since De Bruyne takes most set pieces for Man City.
Some great passes forward tonight.
Most clubs have a player that takes all set pieces. He would only get a key pass from a set piece if it resulted in an attempt on goal. The quality of chance created is the only grey area here.
Another good outing, he's really settling in now.
His biggest test is this weekend.
Everybody's biggest test is this weekend.
Don't even think about him when I see he is in a lineup anymore. Good game again. He is also much more positive with a ball.
It's amazing what a little bit of confidence and time to settle down can do to a player.
It's amazing what a little bit of confidence and time to settle down can do to a player.
I see, you mean that his nine in this case needs to be taken with a grain of salt? Is that what you are saying?
I prefer the word context to scepticism. If you look at their Premier League team of the season, largely it aligns with common perceptions. The inclusion of two of Burnley’s back five might raise a few eyebrows but given they are level on points with Spurs through defensive sturdiness then perhaps not. I don’t make a habit of watching them.
If De Bruyne gets a high rating on there I’m not sceptical as he is one of the best players in the world this season. I can’t see any reason to be sceptical. It may well be that that game was an anomaly but their ratings for him over the course of the season reflect his worth as a player, in my opinion.
Don’t get me wrong; I put high value in statistics as that is invaluable to me in my work. However there is a lot of misuse. One of them is evaluating single players in single games as the large variation makes that useless. If you are interested in statistics you might be aware of Deming’s red bead experiment. Otherwise you should try to find it. That illustrates the danger in evaluating performance from statistics from a single event.
This model is far from bullet proof. I agree, De Bruyne might be the best player in PL, but is really Ashley Young top ten? He’s been great, but...? And I agree that it is very attacker-centric, which is one of the biggest flaws. I think that is because you only measure things that you can measure fairly objectively, and goals, passes etc are simple to measure. It is more difficult to measure movements on the pitch and leadership quality.
I think the point is exactly that. You are not sceptical because the stats are in line with the stats, while we who actually saw the match would not value him that high.
Anyways, great to see another solid performance from Lindelöf tonight.
Really nice distribution.
So positive with his forward passing. Looking the part.
I agree broadly. A Young has been fantastic this season in the second best team in the league. His inclusion in the top ten isn’t that strange. Perhaps you are experiencing some bias against an unfashionable name?
I take your point on De Bruyne, although my point was that over a course of a a number of games the ratings are decent, despite only measuring on the ball actions. It is attacker centric but if you look at the ratings for DM against other DMs, for example, then you tend to get results you would expect, with some outliers of course. The raw list of scores is attacker dominated though.
I think I misunderstood his metaphor a little. I understood it as meaning little regard rather than a healthy scepticism, although I prefer to look at it as context.
@Gusjaros sorry about that.
Lindelof did well I agree. Good to see him being more adventurous with the ball.
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I couldnt work out whether he misdirected a few attempted passes to Lukaku or whether he laid a few really clever disguised passes into the player occupying the ten position!
Either way, he defended well again. I have hope now but still think he is a way off.
Either way, he defended well again. I have hope now but still think he is a way off.
Another excellent showing, really growing to like his reading of defensive play. Getting a feel for it and he's grown as a result.
Reminiscent of Smalling when he first arrived. Settled in on and off the field.
I think he'll have a fantastic game on Sunday almost by default since Aguero seems to be struggling for a while now.
Outside bet for MOTM
Outside bet for MOTM
I still chuckle at how people could write him off after two bleedin' months! (Probably even less)
Like Mourinho told The Times when he summarized the summer signings:
Like Mourinho told The Times when he summarized the summer signings:
I was really looking forward to see Lindelöf against some world class attackers... Now I just hope Smalling and Rojo can keep calm and not lose their heads in the penalty box.
Man Utd 1:2 Man City
Lindelof has been great. Really secure with the ball, picking out some great passes.
Looks a far cry from his early days.
Kudos to him.
Kudos to him.
unable to watch the match or listen so was dreading the usual slamming of big vic when i clicked on the thread. Glad to hear he's winning people over
Feel very much he and Bailly would be our best pairing. His distribution is top class.
Needs to be our first choice center back. Looks class.
One of the few who had a bit of composure and didn’t bottle it in possession.
Improved our distribution from the back when he came on and didn't put a foot wrong defensively.
With the exception of one very poor pass, he performed well. One of the few players who wanted to play the ball forwards.
Play him and drop Smalling. I don't care if he loses headers, he can build from the back and we desperately need that.
Better than Rojo, no question. Should have started.
There’s no way Smalling should be dropped.
Did really well. Glad to see he's turned the early struggles around
Really good again. Turned it around big time this guy.
One of the few positives today to see that he has settled in now.
Great signing. Lindelof looked so comfortable against City in a high pressure game. Really good to watch.
From zero to Swedish hero, unlucky others played bit wank.
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