Sanchez was horrendous throughout the game.
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Sanchez was horrendous throughout the game.
Getting better with each game!
Another solid performance for young victor! Played well and hassled Sanchez all first half.
Wonderful to see him making solid positive progress!!! Keep up the great work son!
The folks on here who nitpicks need to either go play some football or coach some football to try to understand this beautiful game. Not making any mistake and playing a perfect no-error game is not common. This game is all about minimizing errors and if there were errors, keep them to the ones that have less impact to the game. Then you try and try again!
Wonderful to see him making solid positive progress!!! Keep up the great work son!
The folks on here who nitpicks need to either go play some football or coach some football to try to understand this beautiful game. Not making any mistake and playing a perfect no-error game is not common. This game is all about minimizing errors and if there were errors, keep them to the ones that have less impact to the game. Then you try and try again!
He was fine. If he was man-marking Sanchez then he did a fecking brilliant job.
He wasn't though. He was just good.
He wasn't though. He was just good.
Except arsenal fans think Sanchez had his worst ever game so not nothing
I thought so too. Sanchez was terrible, he got to the ball a lot indeed but did feck all with it. Lindelof cannot prevent him from touching it but he can prevent his impact on it and he did that just fine.
As I mentioned earlier, people view the game through the result, if Arsenal had converted more of their 33 attempts or De Gea had been off form a different view of our defenders would be taken. Sanchez made more key passes than any other player for either team, he also played that cracking ball for Ramsey for their goal. He was far far better than when he came to OT last season and was bullied by Tuanzebe, for example. It seems that Arsenal fans are being reactive through frustration at the result by saying it was his worst ever game.
Our centre backs were poor. De Gea was in God mode and Arsenal profligate with their finishing.
Most of their shots on target were decent at best. Shots from outside the box is simple stuff for DDG. We were comfortable after the 60th min
They had more than enough good chances to get a result. I don’t think we can deny that.
Which our keeper saved. Which is the job of a keeper. Not like other teams play without one. They had barely any chance after an hour and lindelof was very good.
We defended easier after Pogba was sent off for sure as we shut down.
Did Tuanzebe play against Arsenal at Old Trafford last season? Maybe you mean the away game, that Arsenal won with 2-0?
There are statistics sites (Squawka for instance) that show Sanchez 5 "key passes". It's visible that all but one of those key passes were delivered to outside the box (3) or from a wide angle (1) and the pass that got to a good position inside the box came from the opposite flank.
Regarding Sanchez attempts three were blocked, out of the two that hit target one was outside the box and, if I remember it correctly, the one that most people remember (that was miraculously saved by De Gea) was from an offside position not spotted by the linesman?
I think your use of statistics is comedical at best. He produced the most "key passes" so what? If you pass a ball to a guy outside the box who shoots wide or straight on De Gea who cares?
How about mentioning statistics that says Sanchez lost possession more than any other player (34 times)? Maybe that doesn't fit your narrative well enough?
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Big test passed yesterday, I feel he is getting better and better with every game. It seemed like he was more assured than Rojo who had difficulties handling Lacazette.
I didn't I clearly said we fell deep. I thought he did well overall.. It was tough to see any players standing out in the second because we were all packed into the area..
Great post! The bias from @Classical Mechanic was there for everyone to see as well with ending every post with "like Tuanzebe did".
Our central defenders were poor I agree they were all over the place at points and lots of last ditch defending and poor finishing and great GK is changing the narrative. Thought Lindelof was the best of our back 3 though then Smalling and thought Rojo was an accident waiting to happen (injury comeback probably).
Glad to see the improvement in his performances.
He’s starting to look the part especially in a back 3, fair play to him let’s hope he keeps it up.
Looking better but I don't really remember him making many tackles. Still needs to ramp up his physicality.
OK the key passes were a little misleading. This is what Lindelof let Sanchez do far too much off yesterday
Not tight enough and letting Sanchez create. He was working Lindelof far too easily. Sanchez found players in and around our box far too often.
He could have done better in that situation, I agree, but many players failed. Matic could have helped him, and two players totally free two meters from goal with the time to make a pass... also Rojo and Smalling could have done better. However, when goals are made, you will almost aleays find that one or two of the CB didn’t make the best of the situation. There is simply very little room for errors in that position. And we are talking about Sanchez, one of the absolute best players in PL. Any defence will have problem with him. All three CB struggled last night, but in the end three points away against a well playing Arsenal. Think all three did ok, except some of the clumsy tackles in the box.
Nope, that's basically the only situation that Sanchez won vs Lindelöf.
It really wasn't. He stood off him far too much.
Not that I can remember. But then again I don't remember everything, like that supposed match last season when Tuanzebe bullied Sanchez at Old Trafford.
It was his debut but it was away, the performance was widely lauded.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...otball-news/man-utd-news-axel-alexis-13000062
http://www.givemesport.com/1047852-...s-sanchez-during-arsenal-vs-manchester-united
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/fans-everywhere-noticed-alexis-sanchez-10375416
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nzebe-s-display-one-bright-sparks-United.html
Right, so your memory was failing you, not the opposite. Maybe you should review the match from yesterday and freshen up your memory. Fans, papers, statistics all say that Lindelöf did a good job.
The reports say that all our defence did a good job which is nonsense frankly. Arsenal should have beaten us. Their xG was vastly superior to ours. Our midfield and defence were simply not good enough in preventing chance creation. We won because our forwards were exceptionally clinical, De Gea had an amazing performance and because Arsenal finished very poorly.
Very good yesterday. he became a man.
I'm not sure you understand what xG means. xG does not say whether you should score a chance or not. It gives the probability of a chance being a goal based on the average of a set of players. So the average player versus the average goalie in a given situation will have a specific xG.
De Gea is one of the best goal keepers in the world and the best shot stopper in the world. A shot with an xG of 0.5 will not go in 50% of the time against De Gea. Add to this that Arsenal are not known for their finishing and you have yesterdays performance.
Yesterday was not a one-off for De Gea, he put these type of performances in every season post-SAF. There's a saying that a world class keeper can save you 15 points a season; thats the level of goal keeper we have. Arsenal should not and did not beat us, because De Gea does what he has done regularly while playing for us.
Banned...thank feck
I'm not sure what you are on about. I said the reasons why the xG was not realised, including the performance from De Gea!?
Regardless, if forwards finish to the optimum level a goalkeeper cannot save the shot.
Pertaining to this conversation, the xG indicates how our midfield and defence were inept in preventing Arsenal from getting in very good goalscoring positions.
Seriously people give a player one season before you judge him ffs
Take a look at @11tegen11. There are many xG models and who's to say that the one you quote is the most precise one.
It's obvious that your logic is flawed based on the fact that the xG number is dependent on the scoreline.
In 11tegen11's twitter account it's clearly visible that Man Utd and Arsenal were level on xG up until 2-0, from that point Man Utd fell back and defended, resulting in a lower xG at full-time, while Arsenal pushed up and attacked, resulting in a higher xG at full-time then what would've been the case if the score line at halftime had been say 0-0.
He is doing fine now,let him be. He is bedding in nicely and those that do not like him are looking for scraps to run him down. Give the young man some credit. He will turn out to be tops here.
I don’t agree. A high xG is indicative of the opposition getting into good goalscoring positions. We have sat in against other big sides and not conceded such a plethora of gilt edge chances. In fact, according to understat, that is the highest xG that any side has achieved against us since they started recording xG four years ago! That site has a slightly lower rating than Opta like your friend on Twitter.
I'm not a fan of saying that a team 'should' do something in football, because it's very much saying something in hindsight. I don't think Arsenal should have beaten us, because their finishing was poor all night, and I think that had to do with the fact that they were 2-0 down so quickly. They were not mentally prepared to be in the situation they were in because they have won every game at home.
I disagree with you assessment regarding xG and the midfield. There were close to ten times where we should have cleared our lines but we didnt, defending in the box was very poor and almost every time we cleared the ball it travelled a few feet straight to an Arsenal player. A lot of their threat came from wide areas, which is what the midfield should be doing because we are usually very strong when facing crosses.
That is where we have to agree to disagree then. I am of the belief that if we play like that against City then we will concede 3+ goals. I felt we got away with it yesterday.
Fair enough. We can atleast agree on one thing; if we let City get that many chances then they will punish us because they have so many better players than Arsenal.
@Classical Mechanic Watch the highlight of the game again, in the 1st half 2 of arsenal's good chances came from our poor clearances(from Matic and Rojo), the only danger left we faced in this half was the kick from Lukaku. In the second half, Arsenal created 2 good chances, one led to the goal, the other led to De Gea's double saves. Sanchez, apart from the pass to Ramsey which is on Pogba as he should track Ramsey in that situation, did nothing special in this game. So your statement about Arsenal should win is arguable at best, the other was Lindelof did a bad job marking Sanchez is just simply wrong.
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