Even when plays well and contributed to the win, people will still look for faults with a forensic eye. Wouldn't mind if we we talking about a player who was approaching or over 30 and been here for years like some. I'm pretty sure Jose didn't sign him like he was going to slot into the starting 11.
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I rate this boy. He will be some player for us eventually
Played superbly today. Surprised to see some are struggling to come to terms with that and just acknowledging the lad played well.
I think this lad deserves a proper run of games next season. I still hope he could be a very good CB and do well with Bailly. He needs to bulk up, be more physical and dominant in the air...and not give up and be mentally strong. Remember Vida, Evra! DDG had a mare to adapt to the english game too.
Didn’t see the match but delighted to hear that he played well.
Seeing as Ekeke avoided my question, I don't think he actually watched the game.
Im not misunderstanding the tactics, im disagreeing with them.
If he was told it doesnt matter if he loses the ball all the time and whenever he gets the ball try to make a pass he's not going to make, then yes I'm disagreeing with that and I don't believe the few passes he managed had a significant impact on Sweden's attack and goals they scored.
Mexico had far more of the ball and 20 shots, but only 3 were on target. A worse version of Germany's bad finishing.
Of course Sweden had chances to finish better too with 15 shots and even managed 1 more on target than Mexico with 4. Mexico's defence definitely looked weaker than Sweden's and a catastrophe at times. But several times Vela was allowed to shoot by Lindelof's passiveness and not trying to block the shot or take the ball away from him.
Again I thought Lindelof was decent overall but the only defender I would say looked good, let alone great which is the word several people used, was Granqvist.
The shots stats don’t really reflect the match imo and was not to compare with Germany. Most of those 20 shots were nowhere near becoming goals. Official stats saying Sweden had 5 shots on target plus the three goals, but Sweden had several other big chances as well, where they were shooting over or being blocked close to goal. Except last 20-15 min of first half I would say it was Sweden’s match.
As I said he is weak in the air and as I said you are exaggerating. The first at 8:20 I kind of find it smart to not be aggressive as the ball is on the other side of Gomez and not really any big chance for him but big risk for penalty. The second, yes that one thing ( not several) is poor but in match where Germany put pressure 60 out of 90 minutes I am sure I can find something poor in any player.
Granqvist has been pretty immense for some time now, crazy he's going to play in Swedens second division in a couple of months.
I didnt really mention who should have won, but I agree Sweden should have simply because of how poorly Mexico defended.
Vela had 2-3 chances where if he gets it on target its probably in but he put them just wide.
I really hope too, we didnt spend that money just to loan him out or only to resell him for pennies. My only concern with him is his aerial play which is by far weakest point. He can bulk up adjust to the speed of the game but he is not good enough in the air and it doesnt strikes me as a mourinho CB, but let's hope he will be our Koscielny
They were going long to bypass their pressing and avoid counters, of course a larger amount of passes than usual will be missed in that case.
I looked up Vela’s shots and for the first couple of shots the closest Swedish players were granqvist and larsson and then granqvist and forsberg. The third shot was augustinson and lindelof. Vela played on Mexico’s right, are you suggesting that lindelof should go out of position to block an eventual shot? You’re making a fool of yourself.
Mexico barely had any good chances. It’s clear you didn’t even watch the game and are just basing your opinion on stats.
He had a good game, use of some silly stats won't change anything. He was clam and the CB pairing looked very good defensively, he wasn't the best CB though, Sweden captain looked better.
He was not. He was told not to lose the ball on his side of the pitch. He was told not to play passes that could allow Mexico to «heap pressure» in dangerous areas of the pitch. To avoid the mistake Germany did at all cost. He consequently played a lot of long balls, and he consequently received few passes. Sweden would not pass the ball in their defence.
And you can disagree with the tactics all you want. Lindelof played according to instruction. And it worked brilliantly.
This threads full of them.
Yeah saw that. Someone used number of touches and all that bs after Germany game and now someone else use number of passes. It's like people don't even watch games and just check the stats.
Seems like Swedish media are impressed by his performances. Keep on arguing about silly stats on here.
Never sure why fans are so bad minded about players. Yep everyone is entitled to an opinion but come on give the lad some credit where it's due.
I think Granqvist and Mellberg are the two best Swedish defenders since Patrik Andersson. It is such a waste he has spent his best years in Russia and now moving to sweden. I think he would have been successful in a league like the PL.
I'm not sure how you can use either of those clips against him.
The first one he is miles away, and the German player is heading away from goal. To jump for that would be reckless and risk a penalty.
The second one, the ball is clearly going over his man and is in front of him. Go for that and its an own goal.
I am pretty sure this comes from his time in Portugal. Spain and Portugal used to have (still have?) a tougher interpretation of the handball rule and to avoid penalty they put the hands behind the back. At least this is what I have heard. You can see many La Liga players do like that, for example Ramos, Marcelo, Piqué.
You think I'm exaggerating, I think you are downplaying his weaknesses because you like the player. At least you admit that it is a weakness though so let's just agree to disagree.
@11101. I looked at your post history in this thread and you had a recent one claiming that Lindelof doesn't have any problems in the air. I'm not going to argue this with you for the same reason I wouldn't argue with someone who claimed that Mata was a fast and powerful runner.
I haven't seen his games for Sweden, but he definitely improved in the 2nd half of the season.
Compare his nightmare at Burnley to his performance at the Emirates and it's night and day difference.
Compare his nightmare at Burnley to his performance at the Emirates and it's night and day difference.
I have always known that the air is Lindelof's big weakness. That is why he is best when paired with Smalling or Granqvist: two great players in the air. Or in a 3 at the back formation. If I have claimed something else it must have been my mistake. However, in WC it has not been a big problem.
Delighted for him, I really hope it works out for him here. It was glaringly obvious that he was suffering with confidence issues and the step-up to such a big club last season.
You mean Huddersfield? Anyway there's been a steady improvement in his performances across the season. His issues were more with confidence I felt and not with ability. Let's see if he cements a starting spot from next season. That has to be the target.
Sorry yes you're right.
If he can dislodge Smalling from the team next season, he'll be my boyfriend.
Haven't seen his last 2 games, has he been good enough so that Mourinho can stop looking for a CB and sign a more necessary LB instead?
Haven't seen his last 2 games, has he been good enough so that Mourinho can stop looking for a CB and sign a more necessary LB instead?
Looking at the game, I was certain Lindelöf was better than Granen (my favorite player in the Swedish team) against Germany. He played to my mind to a 6 or 7 on a schale to 10, because he did what a cb foremost should do: 1. The correct choices in 98% of defensive situations (including positioning), 2. No howlers leading to dangerous situations. 3. Bonus: Something extra to prevent otherwise clear goal chances is nice. (2.10 in you video where his quick mind puts him in front of Werner in stead of behind.) Granqvist did well mostly, but made 3-4 dangerous mistakes, which is understandable with the German pressure at times.
Your examples are to me hard to understand, as at 8.20 Gomes is running away from goal as the ball comes in way behind him, so Lindelöf cannot beat him and probably shouldn’t even try, but rather keep his position. At 9.35 Lindelöf takes his man, the ball goes way above him and it would again be ludicrous to jump, he should rather stay on ground to keep his man under control and be ready for a rebound or knock-down. I would commend him on both occasions.
No I didnt. I said he's not poor in the air. ie he's not the best but he's not the worst.
Either way, you say something daft and take the above as a reason not to back it up. You really think he should have gone for those two headers, especially the first one?
I only saw the Mexico game once, but I think you are confusing statistics with reality here. His passing vs Mexico was mostly good. The statistics reflect how the Swedes don’t want to play short passes out from the back when under pressure, so the cb’s will be called on to play long balls beyond the midfield often, which has a more or less 50% chance of success. Otherwise I thought Lindelöf was more ambitious in his passing than vs Germany, and played some very nice passes between the lines, in a way Smalling can never do. He also had a couple of mishit passes. If Smalling had thise, I’m sure a lot of kneejerkers would tear into him for it, but let’s be honest: on the whole he has more of them, and that is with almost no ambition in his passing, which is much more detrimental.
Haha complaining about that Gomez header at 8:20, ffs what a joke of a post 
Even if he continues to improve, i just feel he isn't made for English football. It is still very important to be at least decent in terms of strength, pace and heading to succeed in England. Such weaknesses wouldnt be so apparent in the other leagues, especially Serie A which suits him perfectly.
Hard to tell. He's been good but the football is very different to the PL. It hides his weaknesses and shines on his attributes. Ideally Sweden go out next game and he gets a good rest and some time in the gym before the season starts. A bit of confidence and a bit more assertiveness and he will be fine, he reads the game well and is one of those players who always seems like he knows what to do a bit quicker than those around him, at least out of our current bunch.
I like him, and the second half of this season coupled with his World Cup so far shows his ability, and he’s worked his backside off to improve too. I think he deserves a fair crack in our defence next season and I think he would continuously improve. I quite like him too, he strikes me as humble. Hope Sweden continue to impress at this World Cup, they’ve been very good.
Been superb in the World Cup so far. Futute Swedish NT captain.
Glad to hear he played well yesterday.
I really hope he can kick on for next season. Bailly and Lindelof has the whiff of Vidic and Ferdinand.
I really hope he can kick on for next season. Bailly and Lindelof has the whiff of Vidic and Ferdinand.
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