You’re right and I guess it makes sense ultimately to give the on field ref the final say. Think I’m probably confusing it from when it was first introduced into the league and they avoided using monitors
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It was clear for us who had a perfect view of the situation - if the ref was slightly more centrally, he couldn't have been sure Willian used his hand. And it's easier to give something when the ref hasn't blown, than to overturn if the ref blows his whistle. So I thought he got it spot on.
The ref should always make the final decision on match changing decisions like Red card but some referees dont seem to have the bottle to make those decisions.
When it comes to making big decisions in favour of Man Utd it will take a huge ammount of bottle and some will probably just take the easier option of ruling against us as they know any decision that goes in our favour will be moaned about by rival fans and forensically examined by the bias pundits on MOTD looking for a reason to say it was wrong even if it was clearly right.
Looked back on the penalties given against us this season in all competitions and there are some absolute shockers. Been so unlucky.
I'm more than happy to hold my hands up and say "Ok it was a pen, we shouldn't have done that!" - But I'd in all seriousness say that 90% of them shouldn't have been penalties
I'm more than happy to hold my hands up and say "Ok it was a pen, we shouldn't have done that!" - But I'd in all seriousness say that 90% of them shouldn't have been penalties
Can't believe those clowns gave a penalty for Arsenal yesterday for that Jesus dive but didn't gave a penalty to us when Bazunu tripped Rashford
I just saw that, in what universe does that knock Jesus over?! At least Rashfords he was clipped at full pelt.
The inconsistency by the refs at the moment is making football writh for conspiracy theories (personally don't believe there's a conscious agenda against United). Not to mention the secretive nature of decision making.
Refs and VAR should be micd up and the swearing excuse is rubbish, start punishing swearing and abusing refs and it'll clear up very quickly. I want to know the reason behind these season changing decisions.
Having formerly been an advocate, I’ve completely gone off VAR.
Like many things in modern Britain, our implementation and execution leaves so much to be desired. How on Earth did that offside call in the West Ham game take so long? Appalling.
Like many things in modern Britain, our implementation and execution leaves so much to be desired. How on Earth did that offside call in the West Ham game take so long? Appalling.
I'm expecting nothing less than another shocking VAR performance today vs the Saudi's. Do you all remember the early game at Old Trafford where both teams were denied stonewall penalties? If anything, it has got worse since then.
I'm convinced the referees are sabotaging it as much as possible hoping it stops being used and undermining their obvious mistakes.
There's no way they are this inept
There's no way they are this inept
Why do we always get the worst refs
How is it a goal kick if it’s not a pen? So the ref knows the defender went through the back of him without winning the ball and still didn’t give a pen
Attwell is atrocious, but I hope to God you're not referencing the Bruno 'pen'. I wish he'd stop whining for one minute.
I said this after the Fulham game, but our main players have now got an image where they just can’t get a foul. Both Bruno and Rashford have to be kicked like crazy to get a foul
Exactly. However, answer to you question is clear.
When was this? Did our players claim for one? Can’t for the life of me remember it. Certainly wasn’t a replay…
Not sure, just saw it on twitter. Sort of looks like a 'optical illusion' if it didn't actually hit his hand.
They were too busy replaying Guimareas nutmegging Weghorst. Went MIA when Antony out it through Burns' legs on a couple of occasions by the way.
I didn’t noticed either. We don’t need fake ones, if that is it. We already have tons of decisions against us.
If it’s hit his hand then it’s an absolute stonewaller. Not sure what we have to do to get a penalty these days.
So bizarre, if it's a GK ref is saying the player didn't get anything on the ball and just the man...
Not much difference between the goal Chilwell had chalked off for pushing Young in the back and Wilson pushing Rashford out of the way for his goal just then.
It's passion and guts when a smaller team does it. Cheating when it's a bigger team.
The only difference really was that Rashford didn’t do a massive starfish dive and Young did.
It was a dive, by young... very naive refereeing.
And Rashford had time to learn that from Young too. Shame really.
Tottenham got done by VAR again. The red they got, the tackle was the same as the one against Perisic. All teams are gonna suffer from shambolic VAR.
Casemiro gets a red, that’s a two footer studs up challenge and doesn’t even get a yellow. Make it make sense.
Mike Dean dropped from selection as Premier League VAR for two months, faces uncertain future. ESPN Article
In August, he failed to identify a red card against Tottenham defender Cristian Romero for a violent hair pull on Chelsea defender Marc Cucurella deep into added time.
In August, he failed to identify a red card against Tottenham defender Cristian Romero for a violent hair pull on Chelsea defender Marc Cucurella deep into added time.
Why do United get nothing yellows where no other team gets a booking?!
No reason for a yellow on Shaw there!
No reason for a yellow on Shaw there!
It's incredible casuistry, taking these incidents from lower leagues (where there is no VAR), somehow trying pretend it's actually VAR that's making football people behave this way. You'd have to have to most severe amnesia of all the wretched cretinous behavior, from players, fans and managers, towards referees, for the longest time(the majority of which was obviously antecedent to VAR).
It doesn’t seem to exist when the game is dead.
That Garner challenge was shite.
That Garner challenge was shite.
As was the Davies ankle kick on Fred which didn’t even get a yellow. United players get no protection from dodgy tackles.
Mitoma goal disallowed just now for a handball that we never a handball. Which was only close to a handball because he got a two handed shove in the back, inside the box.
VAR gets involved. Decision = handball. Referee doesn’t even get asked to review footage. Another awful VAR fail. Add it to the very long list.
VAR gets involved. Decision = handball. Referee doesn’t even get asked to review footage. Another awful VAR fail. Add it to the very long list.
Don’t think that one will be getting over turned for Newcastle. What was he thinking.