He's mailny a centre-back though, Mathieu replacement I guess.
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Very much expecting him to play CB like he did at Sampdoria for all but 1 league game last season. Straight in for Mathieu who in normal circumstances is a big loss
Ah fair dos - I remember him playing at FB in the world cup. That said, I'd never heard of him before the world cup!
What´s the reaction to Nuno Espírito Santo work so far? I know it´s still early stages but i´m curious. I read in the spanish media that he is a firm favourite to being the first manager to get sacked this year.
I honestly have no clue whatsoever. I've only been following their results and catching some highlights of the goals
Alright mate. I usually follow your posts regarding Valência that´s why i asked. Still too early i guess.
Yeah, lost some motivation to keep up to date with them when they started loaning and selling their better players. Still not sure if they are on the up or down - Lim comes in and they add players like Rodrigo and Mustafi to the squad, but then they're losing Bernat for peanuts and their best CB Mathieu.
Without major news of arrivals I expect they'll be in the same boat as last season way behind the better clubs in la liga.
They were never going to hold on to Mathieu once Barca came knocking. Can't really fault them there and they got a good fee. Bernat must be a similar case although I can't believe he's going to start many games at Bayern whereas he would have at Valencia.
Lim has finally, actually taken over the club.
Why so late? Well, Bankia - principle creditors and acting effectively as bankruptcy administrators - finally, after changing their minds a few times, agreed repayment terms on loans and other debts.
This is a relief for the shareholders (basically the supporters club + various local businesses) who form the Fundacion and who are going to be bought out and for Valencia's local government who accidentally became shareholders, creditors and loan guarantors along the way.
All they have to do now is assemble the new team and build a stadium. Game on.
Why so late? Well, Bankia - principle creditors and acting effectively as bankruptcy administrators - finally, after changing their minds a few times, agreed repayment terms on loans and other debts.
This is a relief for the shareholders (basically the supporters club + various local businesses) who form the Fundacion and who are going to be bought out and for Valencia's local government who accidentally became shareholders, creditors and loan guarantors along the way.
All they have to do now is assemble the new team and build a stadium. Game on.
Can't believe they want to pay 27m€ for a 30 yr old next summer.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lim already owns a slice of him.
He's a signature signing and a reliable goalscorer. If he has a good season (and the team will be set up to help him with that) he'll get them European football and might even get them a CL place, in which case he'll be a bargain. European football is crucial.
Yep true indeed. I think he'll be a difference maker and they should get 4th this year, but it'll be a battle and a half with Sevilla.
On another note, I went to Levante's first home game the other day - christ they were awful! They'll go down this season I think. Shame.
On another note, I went to Levante's first home game the other day - christ they were awful! They'll go down this season I think. Shame.
Peter Lim has still not bought the club. Bankia changed the deal again and Lim refused to accept the new conditions.
Summarising for people unfamiliar with the saga:
Valencia owe money to Bankia (a bail-out bank) amongst others. Valencia local government (amongst others) are in the embarrassing position of being part-owners, debtors, creditors and loan guarantors.
Lim offered to buy out the owners including the local authority (covering their debt obligations as he did), buy the loan debt from Bankia (at commercial bad debt purchase rates), build the new stadium and invest in the team.
Bankia rejected that (a bail-out bank can't look that weak) but offered to allow the loans to continue (at full price) if Lim did the other things. Lim, after negotiation, agreed - that was back in June.
Bankia then changed the terms of the deal, so that Lim (and his company) became the loan guarantors rather than the club. Lim, after negotiation, agreed - that was in August.
Bankia then added other conditions, including additional financial guarantees (like the new stadium when built being collateral for their existing loans rather than as collateral for its own building loan) and financial controls - including a say over player transfers.
It's all seemingly being done with the best of intentions: a (quasi)bankrupt bank can't look like it's being soft on a football club. But from a commercial point of view they're actually making it very hard to sell an insolvent business and recoup any money at all.
Suspicions are rife and most Valencia fans are blaming the problems on Bankia. We're already getting rumbles about exactly which Valencian businessmen/politicians may have had a word in Bankia's corporate ear - and why they might prefer to pick up a bankrupt Valencia cheap in a year or so's time.
Summarising for people unfamiliar with the saga:
Valencia owe money to Bankia (a bail-out bank) amongst others. Valencia local government (amongst others) are in the embarrassing position of being part-owners, debtors, creditors and loan guarantors.
Lim offered to buy out the owners including the local authority (covering their debt obligations as he did), buy the loan debt from Bankia (at commercial bad debt purchase rates), build the new stadium and invest in the team.
Bankia rejected that (a bail-out bank can't look that weak) but offered to allow the loans to continue (at full price) if Lim did the other things. Lim, after negotiation, agreed - that was back in June.
Bankia then changed the terms of the deal, so that Lim (and his company) became the loan guarantors rather than the club. Lim, after negotiation, agreed - that was in August.
Bankia then added other conditions, including additional financial guarantees (like the new stadium when built being collateral for their existing loans rather than as collateral for its own building loan) and financial controls - including a say over player transfers.
It's all seemingly being done with the best of intentions: a (quasi)bankrupt bank can't look like it's being soft on a football club. But from a commercial point of view they're actually making it very hard to sell an insolvent business and recoup any money at all.
Suspicions are rife and most Valencia fans are blaming the problems on Bankia. We're already getting rumbles about exactly which Valencian businessmen/politicians may have had a word in Bankia's corporate ear - and why they might prefer to pick up a bankrupt Valencia cheap in a year or so's time.
If Lim doesn't buy the club, how do they afford the 27m for Negredo at the end of the year.
Won comfortably at Getafe last night to move into 2nd place.
Amunt!
Won comfortably at Getafe last night to move into 2nd place.
Amunt!
Deal has been finalised tonight, Peter Lim is now owner of Valencia.
Great club, it would have been a shame to see them vanish into obscurity.
http://www.marca.com/2014/10/24/futbol/equipos/valencia/1414186560.html
Great club, it would have been a shame to see them vanish into obscurity.
http://www.marca.com/2014/10/24/futbol/equipos/valencia/1414186560.html
About time. Took them, what, 10 months? Anyway, I can see them mount a title challenge in 5 years or so. It's nice with some more competition in La Liga, will only make it better.
Hopefully the can kick on from here..Great club! Always had a lot of time for them
What sort of investment will we see now?
Seems like the best place to put this, as I dont think we or anyone else will be buying him since he just moved to Valencia. And he's mentioned plenty in this thread because Lim's company bought his registration before finally taking over Valencia.
Andre Gomes 14/15
Andre Gomes 14/15
They should buy Mata of us for £28-40million 
I thought someone was off his rocker suggesting TonyV as a centreforward.Some interesting signings this summer for Los Che. I like what they are doing even if they are turning into a Man City with Lims money, in buying promising young talent, presumably with an eye on creating a team for the next 5-10 years or so. Today Barbosa joined, following Santi Mina's arrival from Celta.
The one I really cannot figure out is the Negredo deal - a loan with an obligation to buy for 30m at the end of the season! Madness. He figures to be a bit part player next season, so far has his form dropped.
Anyway, I like Valencia to provide an even stiffer threat to the big 2 next year and to possibly surprise in how far they get in the CL.
The one I really cannot figure out is the Negredo deal - a loan with an obligation to buy for 30m at the end of the season! Madness. He figures to be a bit part player next season, so far has his form dropped.
Anyway, I like Valencia to provide an even stiffer threat to the big 2 next year and to possibly surprise in how far they get in the CL.
They've done some good business in the transfer market recently.
They were unlucky with the Negredo deal I think, I don't think anyone thought his form would be that bad. They needed a good striker, and they needed it to be a loan last season. Presumably that was the best deal City would offer. I still wonder if the Lim/Mendes group part owned him though.
It's a shame really, they could have picked up Hernandez or Vietto this season instead.
It's a shame really, they could have picked up Hernandez or Vietto this season instead.
http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=560444
Who took over Valência? Mendes or Lim? Jorge Mendes continues to influenciate Valência´s leadership to put Mendes yes men in key places. This Carlos Carneiro was a nobody as a player and has little experience as director or at any management role. Pretty funny seeing him in such an important club as Valência. Wonder what Valência fans think of this. This was the same modus operandi when he "took control" of our national team. All key elements were connected to Mendes. Soon the vast majority of Valência´s players will be Mendes clients.
Who took over Valência? Mendes or Lim? Jorge Mendes continues to influenciate Valência´s leadership to put Mendes yes men in key places. This Carlos Carneiro was a nobody as a player and has little experience as director or at any management role. Pretty funny seeing him in such an important club as Valência. Wonder what Valência fans think of this. This was the same modus operandi when he "took control" of our national team. All key elements were connected to Mendes. Soon the vast majority of Valência´s players will be Mendes clients.
It was nuts to agree a deal that large for someone his age, especially considering he went off the boil at city after a few months of good form
According to Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad, Los Che have signed Club Brugge's Australian goalkeeper Matt Ryan.
One less destination for Valdes.
One less destination for Valdes.
Huge move for Matt and hope he can tear it up in la liga.
I think Roma are still looking for a keeper. Not many options left though.
Pretty sure Mat Ryan will be a huge success with Valencia.
Fantastic goalkeeper, fantastic feet and a style made for the Spanish League.
Most interesting part will be when Alves returns from injury... Both goalkeepers are too good to sit on the bench.
Fantastic goalkeeper, fantastic feet and a style made for the Spanish League.
Most interesting part will be when Alves returns from injury... Both goalkeepers are too good to sit on the bench.
Ryan is shit. He just has this mindboggling ability of convincing people he's brilliant.
Shot stopping is sub-par, he's short, unimpressive in the air, handling is poor. He's okay with passing the ball around but that's about it.
Shot stopping is sub-par, he's short, unimpressive in the air, handling is poor. He's okay with passing the ball around but that's about it.
Seems pretty short for a keeper. Wiki says his best asset is his distribution. Not sure what to expect but him and Yoel will get plenty of games before Alves comes back in January.
Contrasting opinions there!
Don't be fooled, he's not even as good as a latter days Schwarzer right now
I don't have an opinion on him as I have never seen him - so there's no fooling going on here!
Schwarzer was a great keeper - a little underrated in my opinion. Perhaps harsh to judge Ryan as shite at such a young age in comparing him with Schwarzer though. Valencia usually are pretty canny when it comes to signing players for not that much, so I will reserve judgement and hope to be pleasantly surprised. One thing's for sure though, he's a stop gap until Alves has recovered.
Schwarzer was a great keeper - a little underrated in my opinion. Perhaps harsh to judge Ryan as shite at such a young age in comparing him with Schwarzer though. Valencia usually are pretty canny when it comes to signing players for not that much, so I will reserve judgement and hope to be pleasantly surprised. One thing's for sure though, he's a stop gap until Alves has recovered.
I doubt you've seen all (if any) of Club Brugge's games the past 2 seasons.
I'm Australian. I've seen every match he played for the Mariners and every match he's played for Australia. I've seen some of his Brugge matches. He's not good. In the A-league he was second best to Vuckovic and Galekovic. Possibly even Covic. For Australia he's worse than Langerak.
He was also notably chipped from the half-way line last season by Troisi.
He's just not good. He's not the standard of a team hoping for Champions league in Spain.
"Ryan was named the Juplier League’s best goalkeeper for the past two seasons"
The Belgian league isn't that amazing, sure, but still - the awards suggests he's a decent keeper.
The Belgian league isn't that amazing, sure, but still - the awards suggests he's a decent keeper.
He's also been given awards like A-league keeper of the season. He might have even won keeper of the Asian Cup I can't remember for sure. But he in no way actually deserved the awards. Personnel awards are not a good indicator of talent.
Or perhaps you are the one who is a bad judge? Let's see how he does and revisit in November.