US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012
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I refuse to believe the Rick Perry video is real. My brain cannot process it.
The resemblance in speaking styles between Dubya and Perry is uncanny. Almost like Perry is an alien that took Dubya out of his body and placed him in Perry's.
its a Texas thing..
Best thing about it is that Rick Perry's Google Bombed himself..
I just don't understand how this benefits him in any way? Sure he'll get the rabid right on his side, who are already, but he makes himself an even bigger joke to the entire rest of the population, and a straight up enemy to some.
There's also so many balls out lies in it it's not even worth pointing them out.
There's also so many balls out lies in it it's not even worth pointing them out.
tbf the looney right is going to pick Newt as their nominee. Perry probably thinks he cannot go too far wrong.
I really do now believe Obama is the luckiest man in the history of politics.
Alex Jones, David Icke et all are loving it.
Isn't there a chance it could interpreted as hate speech as well? I'm not saying it should be, but it's a bizarrely brazen homophobic ad that doesn't seem to have been thought through at all.
Isn't there a chance it could interpreted as hate speech as well? I'm not saying it should be, but it's a bizarrely brazen homophobic ad that doesn't seem to have been thought through at all.
He's desperate at this point. So its not surprising he's juxtaposing christian discrimination against gays in the military.
I'm beginning to wonder if Perry gave up some time ago and is now just doing stuff for the Lulz. I mean...one of his big ideas is for a part-time Congress. That's not the thinking of a serious politician.
...just read that Perry's jacket is the same as the one worn by Heath ledger in Brokeback Mountain!
...just read that Perry's jacket is the same as the one worn by Heath ledger in Brokeback Mountain!Wolf must have been biting back the laughter during this.
I've read that Bush does not like Perry at all and has distanced himself from Perry's politics.
Perry is like a slippery eel. Trying to catch him or hold him down to one point is almost futile without another campaign jingoism slithering right by!
I'm beginning to wonder if Perry gave up some time ago and is now just doing stuff for the Lulz. I mean...one of his big ideas is for a part-time Congress. That's not the thinking of a serious politician.
Uncanny.
Thanks pal, you got tea all over my monitor.
If you get past all the homophobic tripe, I can't help but like Perry
The man's a clown.
They all are, but there's a certain charm about him that makes me (guiltily) like him. Though I suppose anyones likeable compared to a vile cretin like Gingrich.
I am beginning to miss GW Bush.....Palin would have had a half decent shot of beating this lot...how low can the GOP fgo.
You know that somebody big will jump in come January/February. The fat bastard might be tempted...
A lot of the more serious candidates (and Palin) have blown off 2012 because they'd rather not face Obama. While I'm underwhelmed with his performance as President, he's an incredibly good campaigner, has a huge organization and a massive donor base. Add in that he's an incumbent who might well be presiding over an improving economy, and I'd imagine a lot of the potential 2012 candidates decided he wasn't beatable.
I like the Prseident's more 'confrontational' approach to the GOP and China...while still being inclusive per his speech in Kansas...
I believe if he wins the second term, he will move left to fulfill his agenda.
The greatest trick Bush ever pulled was convincing all the dim working stiffs and dull backward hicks that he was one of them. The biggest trust fund silver spoon daddy's boy in the history of politics.
You've got a President now that's of Kenyan, Irish & English decent and who was born a black man in the 1960s, at the height of the civil rights movement. And his predecessor, who was a drunk, drop out rich kid, whose daddy got him a job in government and whose connections got him to the White House. And you still have a lot of poor, hard working, small town voters who think the Democrats are the more elitist party? Say wha?
Now I'm simplifying it a bit, and we have plenty of disenfranchised working class voters who connect more with conservative views here, but it's always struck me as bonkers the way Bush got away with portraying himself as a cowboy. The man was a far away from a man of the people as could be humanly possible.
You've got a President now that's of Kenyan, Irish & English decent and who was born a black man in the 1960s, at the height of the civil rights movement. And his predecessor, who was a drunk, drop out rich kid, whose daddy got him a job in government and whose connections got him to the White House. And you still have a lot of poor, hard working, small town voters who think the Democrats are the more elitist party? Say wha?
Now I'm simplifying it a bit, and we have plenty of disenfranchised working class voters who connect more with conservative views here, but it's always struck me as bonkers the way Bush got away with portraying himself as a cowboy. The man was a far away from a man of the people as could be humanly possible.
Reagen did the same.
a lot of people dont understand the issues and vote against their own interests.
Of course, and they do it everywhere (though at least Reagan wasn't the son of the last President) But there was a fair amount of cynicism about it IMO. They played for those votes. I know he was dumb, but he wasn't so dumb as to not know how to work that angle deliberately. "Ok, so he's not actually a very good candidate for running the country, how can we work it?...Hey, I know, he's just a good time guy, just like one of y'all folks, and he loves 'Merica and the things you care about."..Psschhh. The man couldn't give a shit.
Sorry, that just always really annoyed me.
Sorry, that just always really annoyed me.
things are changing in this country...slowly.
poverty is hitting hard...more and more people are just falling through the cracks.
More and more the day to day needs like housing, health care and education will put other issues in the back seat.
The changing demographics will help push these fundemental issues more to the forefront.
The President struck the right note in his speech in Kansas.
I remain hopeful.
poverty is hitting hard...more and more people are just falling through the cracks.
More and more the day to day needs like housing, health care and education will put other issues in the back seat.
The changing demographics will help push these fundemental issues more to the forefront.
The President struck the right note in his speech in Kansas.
I remain hopeful.
We need a Presidential candidate with a beard.
The changing ethnic demographics will always be on the Dems side, but when poverty is hitting hard, voters don't often care about which candidate has the best strategy, or who laid the foundation for the problem, they'll just blame the incumbent.
We've got an elitist Conservative government here for pretty much the same reason (not just economic, but also the unpopularity of the war, Blair and basically whatever else was going wrong could all be laid at the incumbent govt)
Politics is almost always shit. Partook in by people least suited to it, and voted for in the main by people who have no desire to understand it.
We've got an elitist Conservative government here for pretty much the same reason (not just economic, but also the unpopularity of the war, Blair and basically whatever else was going wrong could all be laid at the incumbent govt)
Politics is almost always shit. Partook in by people least suited to it, and voted for in the main by people who have no desire to understand it.
the only way to actually change things is from your own local area. Participate, show up for your local meetings...yes I know that takes dicipline and effort.
At the least contribute to those that do represents your interests...not necesarrily your local representative but to those organizations that pursue your interests.
We have Elizabeth Warren running for the seat that was held by Ted Kennedy which a Republican won because the Dem nominee thought it was gimme...
well I am glad she lost.
But Warren is a consumer advocate and a very down to earth person. She is already leading in the polls and I will be very surprised if she does not win.
There is already talk of wanting her to run for President in 2016.
There are people like her in other places who do represent the aspirations of ordinary people. We need to keep plugging away.
It will take time.
We just need to keep up the good fight.
We will prevail.
At the least contribute to those that do represents your interests...not necesarrily your local representative but to those organizations that pursue your interests.
We have Elizabeth Warren running for the seat that was held by Ted Kennedy which a Republican won because the Dem nominee thought it was gimme...
well I am glad she lost.
But Warren is a consumer advocate and a very down to earth person. She is already leading in the polls and I will be very surprised if she does not win.
There is already talk of wanting her to run for President in 2016.
There are people like her in other places who do represent the aspirations of ordinary people. We need to keep plugging away.
It will take time.
We just need to keep up the good fight.
We will prevail.
sorry if I did not answer you directly.
what you say is true.
Lets take the Ocuppy movement. It is good that this is happening. What is the next step?
Unfortunately the only way to change things is to 'plug in' back into the rotten system.
I believe the movement did have a big bearing on what Obama said in Kansas.
We can be cynical and withdraw. It will have the exact result these people are fighting against.
This is right. People need to put their money, and effort, where their mouth is. Too many people moan about politics and politicians and do bugger all about it but whine. Get involved, join a party, try and do something at least.
So many people treat politics like they're just ordering from a menu every four years.
The problem is that people are reluctant to vote for any third parties, out of the justifiable fear that it will simply lead to the party they dislike more getting into power and staying there. Which is probably true, for a while. It needs to happen, though. I can't imagine the two parties can adequately work for the interests of the entire spectrum of political beliefs in such a large nation.
The party system needs to die. It's whats killing politics in the US. It's Barak Obama - Democrat. Or Newt Gingrich - Republican. I hear people say things like 'I've voted Democrat since 1968'. I want to say well thats fecking stupid. Vote on issues, not party. I've voted for repubs, demos, indys and libertarians. If what they say resonates with me that's where I go. I don't feel like I have to agree with every last things they stand for as that would be impossible.
Until the voters get more aware of the system this will not change. I'm a relative political novice and I know far more than the average person. And Red Dreams is right. Until people start to invest time in they system they will continue to get fecked by it. The reason is our politicians don't act in our interest, they act in theirs (at least in most cases).
As with both the Tea Party rallies and the Occupy movement there are things I could get behind but so much of the message gets lost in the extremist ranks the movements become a joke.
I think Jon Stewart started a movement, I'll look into that one. Seemed quite level headed if I remeber right.
Until the voters get more aware of the system this will not change. I'm a relative political novice and I know far more than the average person. And Red Dreams is right. Until people start to invest time in they system they will continue to get fecked by it. The reason is our politicians don't act in our interest, they act in theirs (at least in most cases).
As with both the Tea Party rallies and the Occupy movement there are things I could get behind but so much of the message gets lost in the extremist ranks the movements become a joke.
I think Jon Stewart started a movement, I'll look into that one. Seemed quite level headed if I remeber right.
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