US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012

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Obama did the equivalent to what we did at The Etihad towards the end of last season. Cowardly performance.
 
How can Mitt sleep at night with all those blatant lies? Does he have no shame? The American people deserve better. Immoral and sickening. Would not vote for.
 

Gets what he deserves? What did he deserve and why? He's doing what politicians do, giving a story about someone he met and using it for political gain. Plus seems to me he's honoring the request of the mother by saying he will not talk about it anymore.

Your bias against everything to the right of you is pretty hilarious.
 
Gets what he deserves? What did he deserve and why? He's doing what politicians do, giving a story about someone he met and using it for political gain. Plus seems to me he's honoring the request of the mother by saying he will not talk about it anymore.

Your bias against everything to the right of you is pretty hilarious.

did you read the article?

I suppose you think the mother's feelings are unimportant?

EDIT: welcome back :)
 
Might be a repost, but this is brilliant. Same guy who made "The Real Mitt Romney"

 
did you read the article?

I suppose you think the mother's feelings are unimportant?

EDIT: welcome back :)

I read the article somewhere else first (yahoo I think) but he says he'll stop discussing the former SEAL.

And thanks. I mostly just read the thread anymore for it's pure comedy value. ;)
 
Another poll up on RCP. Romney 1.5% up now. The intrade odds are narrowing as well.
 
:lol:

good to see you back anyway.

for true comedy value I could watch Fox...but I don't want to improve their ratings :)

Try it after the next debate. I switched back and forth between FOX and MSNBC after the first debate. Hilarious stuff. Best of all was Chris Matthews frothing at the mouth. I've never really concerned myself with the VP debates but might check those out and then do a split screen of those 2 channels.
 
Eh? Its sample size seems about the average, according to those listed on RCP, as is its margin of error. The reason it's possibly not that representative is that it's been taken over 9 days.
 
Try it after the next debate. I switched back and forth between FOX and MSNBC after the first debate. Hilarious stuff. Best of all was Chris Matthews frothing at the mouth. I've never really concerned myself with the VP debates but might check those out and then do a split screen of those 2 channels.

:lol:

Matthews and Shultz would have fought each other for a knife to slit their wrists...

mind you the best laugh I have had on elections was when Fox called Ohio for Obama in 2008...

Gotta remember to do that again this year.
 
The Romney camp and superpaks are running far more effective adverts now. Mainly attacking Obama's failings and the state of the economy. For the most part they are sticking to the polices that people are concerned about. The main slant of the Obama adverts seem to be compare Romney to GW, and try and run on the same hope and change mantra of 2008. A very dangerous tactic with the sate of the economy after four years of an Obama presidency.

Right now one camp has their shit together and the other seems to be languishing a little.
 
We're basically back to where we were before the conventions. Romney's post debate bump has reversed Obama's post convention bump. Basically, Romney still has a massive mountain to climb if he wants to win the Presidency in the way of running the table with Ohio, Colorado, Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina. As it stands, he's only going to win one of them, and even if he continues to surge in the coming weeks, the odds that he will win every state that he needs are quite slim.
 
Obama needs to get his shit together. Starting to get a tiny bit nervous here.
 
Romney's post debate bump has reversed Obama's post convention bump. Basically, Romney still has a massive mountain to climb if he wants to win the Presidency in the way of running the table with Ohio, Colorado, Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina.

RCP has it 294:244 to Obama based on current polls. Romney already leads in Florida and NC, so Ohio and Virginia are key. Virgina is very tight, just a 0.3% lead, so Ohio is the golden goose for Romney. Whichever way Ohio goes will decide the election IMO. Thankfully Obama has a decent lead there and the State have been fairly supportive in all the polls.
 
RCP has it 294:244 to Obama based on current polls. Romney already leads in Florida and NC, so Ohio and Virginia are key. Virgina is very tight, just a 0.3% lead, so Ohio is the golden goose for Romney. Whichever way Ohio goes will decide the election IMO. Thankfully Obama has a decent lead there and the State have been fairly supportive in all the polls.

Florida is basically a dead heat and RCP have Romney is barely shading it at the moment, so that's what accounts for the 244 number for Romney. Expect to see Bill Clinton appear in Florida soon. Also expect Obama to spend most of his time in FL, OH, and VA, and the likes of Biden in NV, CO, and IA.
 
If things are tied Romney will have the edge on voting day. There is a lot of enthusiasm amongst GOP voters so their turnout will be strong, plus a lot of other people simply want Obama out.

Obama on the other hand can't rely on a wave of last minute voting, there is just too much apathy around his presidency. Plus in 2008 there was a lot of first time voters that bought into the hope and change, and their numbers will undoubtedly diminish.

Its basically too close to call now. Obama has a slight lead but Romney has momentum, and more money behind him.
 
Betfair have Obama at 1/2. Doesn't look that close.

In all fairness betting odds are influenced by the money being laid down. In recent weeks I am sure a lot was going on Obama, especially in the UK.

Romney has momentum, more financial backing and enthusiasm on his side. Its not really so much people like Romney more of an anybody but Obama feeling. Two weeks ago a lot of people didn't see Romney/Ryan has viable candidates but after the debate that view changed significantly.
 
Rasmussen now have an Obama lead, and Ohio's consistently still giving him the lead. Raoul's right, it's back to pre-convention positions. Which is a bit annoying, given the gains in September, but Obama's still ahead.

Interestingly as well, 1/5 of people in an Ohio poll today said they'd voted already, 63% of which were for Obama.
 
Lots of polls this morning. The one that really matters is Obama ahead by 6 in Ohio. He is at 51 to 45...NBC/Marist/WSJ poll. 18% have already voted and at the rate of 2-1 for Obama.

No republican has won without Ohio. Romney is done.

Mixed polls in Virginia. Obama ahead in Florida though only by 1 according to NBC/Marist/WSJ.

Colorado is the only one where two polls have Romeny just ahead.

Obama will definitely win Nevada and NM.

I think he will carry Florida and Virginia too.
 
:lol: Obama suddenly up by 5 and 6 in Ohio and Virginia.

Time for a flurry of Rasmussen landline phone polls to pull Romney's RCP average competitive again.
 
Jaz and MJS at it again

At what? Does posting facts and impartial commentary upset your sensitivities so much.

That is part of the problem: Obama voters and Romney supporters get their panties in an absolute knot if anyone dares do anything that rocks their narrow view of the election and world. Its kind of sad people see politics has a competitive past time they simple must pick one side and win at all costs.
 
Lots of polls this morning. The one that really matters is Obama ahead by 6 in Ohio. He is at 51 to 45. .


Do you ever check stuff like sample size, MoE, and past polls from the same sample? The last time NBC/WSJ/Marist polled Obama was 8% up, so even IF their poll is accurate Obama went down 2%.

Obama is undoubtedly up in Ohio, and hopefully decisively so but four weeks of good campaigning and debates could change things either way. One thing is clear now, Ohio is absolutely key to Romney's chances, he can't win without carrying Ohio.
 
Do you ever check stuff like sample size, MoE, and past polls from the same sample? The last time NBC/WSJ/Marist polled Obama was 8% up, so even IF their poll is accurate Obama went down 2%.

Obama is undoubtedly up in Ohio, and hopefully decisively so but four weeks of good campaigning and debates could change things either way. One thing is clear now, Ohio is absolutely key to Romney's chances, he can't win without carrying Ohio.

He never could win without Ohio. It traditionally leans about 2% towards the GOP, so if a Democrat wins it, it usually means the Dems will also carry a slew of other states with similar demographics to Ohio (Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa etc).
 
Do you ever check stuff like sample size, MoE, and past polls from the same sample? The last time NBC/WSJ/Marist polled Obama was 8% up, so even IF their poll is accurate Obama went down 2%.

Obama is undoubtedly up in Ohio, and hopefully decisively so but four weeks of good campaigning and debates could change things either way. One thing is clear now, Ohio is absolutely key to Romney's chances, he can't win without carrying Ohio.

mjs...do try and not come across like some know it all ok.

Do you really think you know better than all of us?

I know all about types of polls and their relevent accuracies.

NBC/WSJ/Marist is one of the better polls.

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mjs...do try and not come across like some know it all ok.

Do you really think you know better than all of us?

I know all about types of polls and their relevent accuracies.

NBC/WSJ/Marist is one of the better polls.


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Then don't get excited when a poll actually shifts two points in Romney's favor :lol:
 
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