US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012

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I think I need to just stop watching Fox. It's getting really silly now. Trouble is Ted Koppel is on BOR tomorrow. I rate him as high as Russert.
 
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How will Romney’s 47% remarks play out in the general election?

Help him 58.57%

Hurt him 8.52%

No difference 32.91%
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Grinner said:
There's too much back-slapping between Stewart and O'Reilly. JS should just grow a full pair and destroy him....but he won't. I actually think BOR is one of the fairer guys on that channel. He's nowhere near as rabid as Hannity.
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Except when is he is arguing against Donahue and condescending towards Glick. Great examples of what a uber-asshole Bill is.
 
Grinner said:
Am I completely biased or stupid or something? All these videos and tapes of Obama that keep coming out seem to be making him look good rather than bad. Malkin is on Hannity reacting to some video that was completely uncontoversial yet she is making out that it was the voice of Stalin or something.

These people are nutters. Malkin is just weird....but I'd bang the nasty out of her.
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After I blasted her face in a surprise money shot, I'd let her know, "Well, ma'am, I wanna thank you for the sweet pussy. How does it feel to be fecked raw by a liberal gay-rights supporting atheist from Texas?"
 
Facebook commentary from a post I made recently.

Scott ******
Yesterday at 6:12pm via mobile ·

Just another ridiculous statement from a presidential candidate. He's running the most inept campaign perhaps in history. Mitt Romney doesn't understand the common folk having grown up with a silver spoon and being consumed with wealth as an adult.
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Tena ********* ******, Tasha ****** ********* and Michael ***** ******* like this.

Michael ***** ******* I agree 100%! He needs to go on undercover boss some time.
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Mike ****** Yeah the last guy in the world you want being President is a guy who has amassed great wealth being succesful in business or whatever else he is involved with. Scott, people like you just crack me up. You think the sitting President has a clue what is going on with the average citizen? Hell, he has never had a real job in his life. He is Harvard educated and a career politician. I love how Democrats want to demonize Romney for his wealth. Since when in America has being a successful capitalist been bad. Hell, Nancy Pelosi and her husband have made millions in the stock market off insider trading tips she has gleened from her current seat. Why doesn't that piss you off? I see the President running with the George Clooneys of the world and trying to sell himself as the everyman. Just because you walk around with your sleeves rolled up does not make you an every man. People are pissed at Romney's comment because there is a lot of truth to it. Too many people are dependent on the Government to support them. They shouldn't be mad, they should be embarrassed.
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Scott ****** Keep drinking the Fox "News" koolaid. Having voted/supported GOP from mid-90s to 2009, I have witnessed this party become a power-hungry group of neocons ramming their belief system down the public's throat. Might as well rename it the AWPP - angry white people's party. You see I'm all for everyone being equal, progress, women/gays/minorities having same rights as the whites/straights. I'm not stuck on some 1960s or 1980s dream. The GOP is so far right today that their demi-god jizzfest dream President, Reagan, would be a democrat in thier view. People like you are angry and buy into the bullshit fed by right wing neocons hellbent on waging war globally and making their rich supporters more rich.
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Mike ****** I don't drink anybody's koolaid my friend. I am educated and do my research. I don't get my news from John Stewart , CNN, or Fox. I love your response that you are for equal rights. I am too. But I am for earning equality--not having it doled out and paid for by others who work for what they have. I love your Democratic dribble--never fails to make laugh. The Democratic party who wants equal rights and tolerence for all. Unless of course you disagree with exactly what they believe then you are deemed a racist (or an angry white person), or intolerent. That is what you are spewing, and that is what the Democratic party pushes. They have no record to run on so they just brainwash people into believing that if you don't support every liberal agenda you are a bad person. That is sad.
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Michael ***** ******* Mike: you watch too much Fox news and listen to too much Rush Limbaugh.
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Michael ***** ******* Romney's own dad wouldn't have voted for him!
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Mike ****** @michael *******. First of all you don't know me. Second, typical response. I disagree with you so instead of any kind of enlightened input you associate me with Fox News (idiots) and Rush Limbaugh (bigger idiot). Just so you know, I grew up dirt poor in Detroit. My family never, I repeat, never took welfare or any other kind of handout. I joined and served in the military to better myself. I went to school and have worked since I was 14. I retired and took a post-military job that I earned. I go to work everyday. Sorry I don't subscribe to the liberal bs that you guys spew. But, I respect your right to be wrong.
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Michael ***** ******* IF you are voting Romney, then you are the one who is wrong Mike. As far as you growing up poor and your family not taking advantage of the resources that were available to them, well, that's their problem, not mine. How are you retired if you took a post-military job ? Retired means not working. You're working therefore you are not retired. Enjoy the koolaid Mike. Ice cold and fresh.
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Mike ****** Only a liberal would consider welfare a resource and bad mouth somebody for having pride and not using it. I retired from the military...it is an official term and everything. Look it up. Oh wait...you guys don't research anything...you just repeat CNN headlines.
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That Fox news poll in the swing states was shockingly bad for Romney.

Just making no headway anywhere at the moment. Really needs those debates.
 
I see Romney is running ads in Florida featuring Netanyahu. Running on the Iran is going to be nuclear next week theme(it's been next week for a decade now) and that the world needs

AMERICAN STRENGTH - NOT APOLOGIES.

Makes perfect sense a significant jewish population there, but I'm not sure we've ever seen an Israeli govt so openly cheerleading for an American Presidential candidate.
 
Jaz said:
That Fox news poll in the swing states was shockingly bad for Romney.

Just making no headway anywhere at the moment. Really needs those debates.
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If you're praying for the debates to win it for him I think you may be disappointed. Schooling Rick Perry is a little easier than scoring one on Obama...especially when you've spent the three months prior giving him endless ammunition to fire at you.

It's over.
 
Aussie Romoney

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-richest-woman-20120830,0,3323996.story

World's richest woman says poor should have less fun, work harder


Gina Rinehart, the world's richest woman, says people who are jealous of the wealthy should work harder. (Twitter / August 30, 2012)

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By David Lazarus
August 30, 2012, 9:31 a.m.
Just in case you were beginning to think rich people were deeply misunderstood and that they feel the pain of those who are less fortunate, here's the world's wealthiest woman, Australian mining tycoon Gina Rinehart, with some helpful advice.

"If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain," she said in a magazine piece. "Do something to make more money yourself -- spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working."

Yeah, let them eat cake.

Rinehart made her money the old-fashioned way: She inherited it. Her family iron ore prospecting fortune of $30.1 billion makes her Australia's wealthiest person and the richest woman on the planet.

"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she said by way of encouragement.

"Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others."

Boom. Almost too easy.

Why are people poor? Rinehart blamed what she described as "socialist," anti-business government policies, and urged Australian officials to lower the minimum wage and cut taxes.

"The millionaires and billionaires who choose to invest in Australia are actually those who most help the poor and our young," she said. "This secret needs to be spread widely."
 
The Rasmussen polls are an absolute farce. He's clearly cooking the numbers to show that Romney isn't getting hammered. I doubt Rasmussen will be considered a major main stream poll after this election.
 
sglowrider said:
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-richest-woman-20120830,0,3323996.story

World's richest woman says poor should have less fun, work harder


Gina Rinehart, the world's richest woman, says people who are jealous of the wealthy should work harder. (Twitter / August 30, 2012)

gina.jpg


By David Lazarus
August 30, 2012, 9:31 a.m.
Just in case you were beginning to think rich people were deeply misunderstood and that they feel the pain of those who are less fortunate, here's the world's wealthiest woman, Australian mining tycoon Gina Rinehart, with some helpful advice.

"If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain," she said in a magazine piece. "Do something to make more money yourself -- spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working."

Yeah, let them eat cake.

Rinehart made her money the old-fashioned way: She inherited it. Her family iron ore prospecting fortune of $30.1 billion makes her Australia's wealthiest person and the richest woman on the planet.

"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she said by way of encouragement.

"Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others."

Boom. Almost too easy.

Why are people poor? Rinehart blamed what she described as "socialist," anti-business government policies, and urged Australian officials to lower the minimum wage and cut taxes.

"The millionaires and billionaires who choose to invest in Australia are actually those who most help the poor and our young," she said. "This secret needs to be spread widely."
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She clearly looks like someone with the acumen to work hard an earn $30 billion.
 
sglowrider said:
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-richest-woman-20120830,0,3323996.story

World's richest woman says poor should have less fun, work harder


Gina Rinehart, the world's richest woman, says people who are jealous of the wealthy should work harder. (Twitter / August 30, 2012)

gina.jpg


By David Lazarus
August 30, 2012, 9:31 a.m.
Just in case you were beginning to think rich people were deeply misunderstood and that they feel the pain of those who are less fortunate, here's the world's wealthiest woman, Australian mining tycoon Gina Rinehart, with some helpful advice.

"If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain," she said in a magazine piece. "Do something to make more money yourself -- spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working."

Yeah, let them eat cake.

Rinehart made her money the old-fashioned way: She inherited it. Her family iron ore prospecting fortune of $30.1 billion makes her Australia's wealthiest person and the richest woman on the planet.

"There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire," she said by way of encouragement.

"Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others."

Boom. Almost too easy.

Why are people poor? Rinehart blamed what she described as "socialist," anti-business government policies, and urged Australian officials to lower the minimum wage and cut taxes.
"The millionaires and billionaires who choose to invest in Australia are actually those who most help the poor and our young," she said. "This secret needs to be spread widely."
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obviously. minimum wage makes people poor.
 
Saliph said:
Stewart is awesome.
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Yep he killed it with his bit on Fox News and their reaction to Romney's leaked speech. Also loved the bit at the end when he brought up Craig T Nelson's quote on. Brilliant.
 
MichaelS said:
obviously. minimum wage makes people poor.
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Looking at her, all you can say is that god is fecking fair. She needs all the money in the world to get fecked with a face like that.
As fat as she is, I doubt she did anything but eat pukka pies on the way to inheriting that money.
 
I remember reading an article about her not too long ago, sounds like an absolute scumbag. In a lawsuit with her children or something, so they don't get any money?

Raoul said:
The Rasmussen polls are an absolute farce. He's clearly cooking the numbers to show that Romney isn't getting hammered. I doubt Rasmussen will be considered a major main stream poll after this election.
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I always get confused when Silver talks about partisan bias in the polls. How do they actually do that to the numbers? Do they artificially inflate one side, or is it in how they source and model the data? I noticed that Rasmussen was one of the polls that used automated calls to landlines only, do that do that on purpose to weaken Obama's numbers?
 
Dear Republicans:

Here's how you win an Election. Run an Intelligent Moderate Republican against the Democrats.

Stop appealing to your base. They'll either vote for you regardless or not at all.


Oh and stop the clown you've currently got running from ever talking again.
 
Ubik said:
I remember reading an article about her not too long ago, sounds like an absolute scumbag. In a lawsuit with her children or something, so they don't get any money?



I always get confused when Silver talks about partisan bias in the polls. How do they actually do that to the numbers? Do they artificially inflate one side, or is it in how they source and model the data? I noticed that Rasmussen was one of the polls that used automated calls to landlines only, do that do that on purpose to weaken Obama's numbers?
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Not sure about his methodologies, but his polls have been consistently skewed in the opposite direction to the others, as well as to the RCP average. The polling people know how to move the numbers and Rasmussen is basically a Republican pollster, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least that he would try to keep Romney alive by cooking the numbers.
 
Raoul said:
Not sure about his methodologies, but his polls have been consistently skewed in the opposite direction to the others, as well as to the RCP average. The polling people know how to move the numbers and Rasmussen is basically a Republican pollster, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least that he would try to keep Romney alive by cooking the numbers.
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Wasn't Rasmussen the most accurate pollster in the last election? I remember someone claiming that, on Real Time with Bill Maher I think it was. Seems weird.
 
Last 5 polls in Florida, looking good for Obama.

POLLS................DATE DEM REP MARGIN
Fox News............9/18 49.0 44.0 Obama +5.0
Gravis Marketing..9/16 47.1 47.7 Romney +0.6
Rasmussen..........9/12 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0
Consensus...........9/11 42.0 42.0 Tie
Marist.................9/11 49.0 44.0 Obama +5.0
 
Red Dreams said:
never heard that.
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Past elections:

Rasmussen's final polls had Obama ahead 52%-46%, which was nearly identical to Obama's final margin of 53%-46%, and made him one of the most accurate pollsters out there.
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In the 2004 presidential election, "Rasmussen...beat most of their human competitors in the battleground states, often by large margins," according to Slate magazine. Rasmussen projected the 2004 presidential results within one percentage point of the actual vote totals earned by both George W. Bush and John Kerry.

In 2004, Slate said they “publicly doubted and privately derided Rasmussen” polls because of the methodology. However, after the election, they concluded that Rasmussen’s polls were the most accurate.
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Progressive Review conducted a review of polling accuracy in the 2000 presidential primaries. The review ranked Rasmussen Research number one in accuracy. Rasmussen's prediction for the 2000 presidential election was off by 4.5%, compared to the average 1.1% margin of error most other national polls gave at the time.
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Yeah last time round it seems Pew and Rasmussen were most accurate. This year though they're getting pretty different results to one another (Pew's last poll on the 16th gave Obama an 8 point lead, Rasmussen gave it to Romney by 2 that day).
 
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