US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012
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How do elitist cnuts win popular votes? It's mental.
There are a fair few elitist cnuts in most parties TBH. People generally vote for the party that will serve their interest the best.
That's Mike's point though, they don't.
Or at least, not the one that will serve their economic interests best. But I think the point is that the GOP has managed to create a strong coalition between economic and social conservatives. For every poor American who's bought the Ayn Rand / "job creators" / trickle-down bullshit, there are probably more who would rather have more redistribution of wealth, but not enough to vote in someone pro-choice.
And yes, most Democratic pols are still drawn from the elite, and many are just as prone to corruption. But their policies as a party are considerably less elitist.
Elite isn't a dirty word you know. So long as you use your advantages to help others rather than just yourself then it's fine to be well-off, educated and connected.
We're talking about 'elitism': The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
I know but you have to understand that here in the US it's got to the point that people with college degrees are viewed with suspicion. It's enough to say something like 'he's a college boy born to rich parents' to attack an opponent. You routinely see pols advertising that they are uneducated and don't move in elite circles and so are more electable than those that do.
It's quite alarming.
I think that's an old trope in US politics though. Goes right back to the Revolution and beyond, to the old religious arguments about the Elect and the Preterite.
Then once all the votes are cast, it's generally a white male independently wealthy Harvard grad in office.
Then once all the votes are cast, it's generally a white male independently wealthy Harvard grad in office.
You gotta admit it though, that Willard Romney, or any other white Republikan for that matter, has huge cojones to even go and speak at an NAACP event.
It's like, Hi, I'm Mitt Romney, I'm seeking the presidency of the United States of Amerika, representing the Republikan party. We are the party who:
- Fought tooth and nail against Civil rights and desegregation legislation.
- We saw our Republikan ranks swell massively with angry whities after civil rights legislation was passed.
- We have successfully employed the so called "Southern Strategy" as a way of solidifying our strength in the south by exploiting fear and resentment of you black folk.
- It was our Republikan party who turned the tables of a presidential election with that glorious Willie Horton ad stoking the the decent white man's fear of the black man.
- We are the party that attracts white racists and bigots from all walks of society, be it neo nazis, KKKers, or just that grinning local southern sheriff. Coincidence?
- If you hear a white person using the N word agressively, what party do you think he belongs to?
- We have also fought tooth and nail to rid the country of the evils of Affirmative Action.
- We are the party that seeks to butcher the ranks of government employment that will negatively affect African Americans more than other species of sub Amerikans . . . whoops, I mean Americans
- We are the party of strong and tough law enforcement, building a system that proudly has almost 10 percent of young black males behind bars. And we are the party of strict sentencing and supporting the policy of private jails so that there will be economic incentives to incarcerate at greater rates.
- You can be sure that if cops are caught beating the shit out of an unarmed black subject, the policemen will have overwhelming support from the Republikan community.
- Let there be no doubt on whose side this party sympathizes with when George Zimmerman shot that unarmed black youth, or when Rodney King went through a drumbeat of old bill batons.
- We absolutely support racial profiling.
- And we are fully in line with the stop n' search methods employed by the NYCPD that profile minorities.
- We are the party of Rush Limbaugh and find nothing wrong with his little "Obama the Magic Negro" diddies over the air waves.
- When you see effigies of a lynched Obama or other racial insinuations on posters and placards at political rallies, you can be sure of the the political affiliation of these enraged white victims.
- We are birthers, race-baiters . . . we are Fox Nation!
- When my friend and supporter, that real Amerikan Ted Nugent, remarks that maybe the US would've been better off had the South won, you can be sure he was echoing the sentiments of many in our Republikan party ranks, and I shall not denounce him.
- You can be sure us Republikans are busy breaking down funding for public education, and you all know what that'll mean for the African American community. Booya!
- And you can be sure of who the voter ID campaign championed by Republikans is aimed at excluding. That's right, take a good look at yourselves.
- What party was it that fought against making Martin Luther King day a national holiday? Take a wild guess.
- What party has no qualms with flying the confederate flag? Tired of guessing? Yes, the Republikans.
- And whose party was it that had elected officials wag an admonishing wet noodle of a finger in the face of a black president, or heckle at him, "LIAR!" in the middle of a nationally televised state of the union address? These were proud Republikans.
- And I belong to the Mormon church, the lily whitest religion on earth, and nearly entirely Republikan, and did you know that until 1978 blacks were barred from the priesthood due to the color of their skin and for being the cursed descendents of Cain, that biblical murderer?
- And I stand before you today and will say it to your face, "OBAMACARE," instead of its proper name, the affordable care act, knowing full well that it will piss you off so that I can rally my Republikan base showing that I'll stand up to the black man.
So I, Willard Mitt Romney, stand before you today and in the name of the Republikan party, seek your black support. Thank you!
It's like, Hi, I'm Mitt Romney, I'm seeking the presidency of the United States of Amerika, representing the Republikan party. We are the party who:
- Fought tooth and nail against Civil rights and desegregation legislation.
- We saw our Republikan ranks swell massively with angry whities after civil rights legislation was passed.
- We have successfully employed the so called "Southern Strategy" as a way of solidifying our strength in the south by exploiting fear and resentment of you black folk.
- It was our Republikan party who turned the tables of a presidential election with that glorious Willie Horton ad stoking the the decent white man's fear of the black man.
- We are the party that attracts white racists and bigots from all walks of society, be it neo nazis, KKKers, or just that grinning local southern sheriff. Coincidence?
- If you hear a white person using the N word agressively, what party do you think he belongs to?
- We have also fought tooth and nail to rid the country of the evils of Affirmative Action.
- We are the party that seeks to butcher the ranks of government employment that will negatively affect African Americans more than other species of sub Amerikans . . . whoops, I mean Americans
- We are the party of strong and tough law enforcement, building a system that proudly has almost 10 percent of young black males behind bars. And we are the party of strict sentencing and supporting the policy of private jails so that there will be economic incentives to incarcerate at greater rates.
- You can be sure that if cops are caught beating the shit out of an unarmed black subject, the policemen will have overwhelming support from the Republikan community.
- Let there be no doubt on whose side this party sympathizes with when George Zimmerman shot that unarmed black youth, or when Rodney King went through a drumbeat of old bill batons.
- We absolutely support racial profiling.
- And we are fully in line with the stop n' search methods employed by the NYCPD that profile minorities.
- We are the party of Rush Limbaugh and find nothing wrong with his little "Obama the Magic Negro" diddies over the air waves.
- When you see effigies of a lynched Obama or other racial insinuations on posters and placards at political rallies, you can be sure of the the political affiliation of these enraged white victims.
- We are birthers, race-baiters . . . we are Fox Nation!
- When my friend and supporter, that real Amerikan Ted Nugent, remarks that maybe the US would've been better off had the South won, you can be sure he was echoing the sentiments of many in our Republikan party ranks, and I shall not denounce him.
- You can be sure us Republikans are busy breaking down funding for public education, and you all know what that'll mean for the African American community. Booya!
- And you can be sure of who the voter ID campaign championed by Republikans is aimed at excluding. That's right, take a good look at yourselves.
- What party was it that fought against making Martin Luther King day a national holiday? Take a wild guess.
- What party has no qualms with flying the confederate flag? Tired of guessing? Yes, the Republikans.
- And whose party was it that had elected officials wag an admonishing wet noodle of a finger in the face of a black president, or heckle at him, "LIAR!" in the middle of a nationally televised state of the union address? These were proud Republikans.
- And I belong to the Mormon church, the lily whitest religion on earth, and nearly entirely Republikan, and did you know that until 1978 blacks were barred from the priesthood due to the color of their skin and for being the cursed descendents of Cain, that biblical murderer?
- And I stand before you today and will say it to your face, "OBAMACARE," instead of its proper name, the affordable care act, knowing full well that it will piss you off so that I can rally my Republikan base showing that I'll stand up to the black man.
So I, Willard Mitt Romney, stand before you today and in the name of the Republikan party, seek your black support. Thank you!
It's like when Carcetti goes to talk to the black clergy, only without the long-term race-baiting strategy.
I like Carcetti, but his character never seemed believable to me. And the acting seemed a little wooden. He was outshone by the kids in Season 4.
Maybe we need to elect a gonk like Palin so that all this moaning about elites never happens again. 4 years of her and we'll all be clamouring for an educated white male.
That would be way too high a price to pay for losing the stupid 'elite' rhetoric.
I agree, it's funny because he clearly plays it for real - he's not fallen for the trap of thinking just because the character's cynical, he should feel cynical all the time. Carcetti feels he's doing the right thing. I can't fault anything specific the actor does wrong... he just not believable for some reason. Bunny Colvin's not believable either, he looks like a Shakespearian actor who's found himself in a cop show.
The kids in Season 4 were tremendous, but I far prefer 3. I felt they paced 4 wrong, Michael's turn and the decent of the kids into proper gangsta shit was too sudden.
I agree, it's funny because he clearly plays it for real - he's not fallen for the trap of thinking just because the character's cynical, he should feel cynical all the time. Carcetti feels he's doing the right thing. I can't fault anything specific the actor does wrong... he just not believable for some reason. Bunny Colvin's not believable either, he looks like a Shakespearian actor who's found himself in a cop show.
The kids in Season 4 were tremendous, but I far prefer 3. I felt they paced 4 wrong, Michael's turn and the decent of the kids into proper gangsta shit was too sudden.
Season 4 was my favourite. Have you watched Breaking Bad yet?
No. But I did listen to Kid A, twice... it's class.
Correct.
Great as they are, you should probably let them out the basement now.
or we can call Romney a Rich Lying Coward....so I will just refer to him as RLC.
Here is the latest by RLC. His interview on major networks show a man who is cornered.
'I cannot recall'...classic...
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-i-dont-recall-coming-back-for-mass
Just imagine if this was reversed and it was Obama...the repubs would have fired upon Fort Sumter by now!
Mitt Romney told CBS News‘s Jan Crawford Friday evening that he did not attend Bain Capital meetings after he left the company in February of 1999 to run the Winter Olympics. But this answer appears to contradict sworn testimony he delivered in 2002 “as part of a hearing to determine whether he had sufficient residency status in Massachusetts to run for governor”:
– 2002: “[T]here were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth.”
– 2012: “I was in Salt Lake City for three straight years. I don’t recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or management meeting. We were, I was out there running the Olympics and it was a full time job, I can tell you that.”
“Jan, I had no involvement with the management of Bain Capital after 1999,” Romney insisted on Friday.
– 2002: “[T]here were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth.”
– 2012: “I was in Salt Lake City for three straight years. I don’t recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or management meeting. We were, I was out there running the Olympics and it was a full time job, I can tell you that.”
“Jan, I had no involvement with the management of Bain Capital after 1999,” Romney insisted on Friday.
waiting for him to plead the 5th
not before you see a bunch of inbreds waving their birth certs and asking for 'their country back'.
another hard hitting ad by the Obama campaign.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/new-obama-ad-bashes-romneys-jobs-record
EDIT:
"Mitt Romney never outsourced jobs. Only the company he OWNED outsourced jobs. Corporations are people my friends"
"Mitt Romney want's to be President of the United States when he won't even take responsibility for being president of Bain Capital. He's running for office for Pete's sake!"
"Mitt Romney didn't manage Bain Capital while it was outsourcing jobs; he was just owner, chairman, CEO and president of Bain Capital. Oh, and he payed himself more than $100,000 a year not to manage Bain Capital. That makes perfect sense, doesn't it??
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/new-obama-ad-bashes-romneys-jobs-record
EDIT:
"Mitt Romney never outsourced jobs. Only the company he OWNED outsourced jobs. Corporations are people my friends"
"Mitt Romney want's to be President of the United States when he won't even take responsibility for being president of Bain Capital. He's running for office for Pete's sake!"
"Mitt Romney didn't manage Bain Capital while it was outsourcing jobs; he was just owner, chairman, CEO and president of Bain Capital. Oh, and he payed himself more than $100,000 a year not to manage Bain Capital. That makes perfect sense, doesn't it??
They duk ar juurb!
Ezra Klein has a good list of reasons why this Congress is the worst ever. Never realised the GOP had brought a motion to repeal the Affordable Care Act thirty-three times! Mentalists.
That's a brilliant ad...and it only cost us 50 million dollars to repeal it 33 times. yeah the GOP is really cutting costs in Congress.
err the Act is still here btw.
err the Act is still here btw.
They duk ar juurb!
Ezra Klein has a good list of reasons why this Congress is the worst ever. Never realised the GOP had brought a motion to repeal the Affordable Care Act thirty-three times! Mentalists.
I have a gut feel Hitler would be more popular....
seriously.
even Republicans are tired of Romney asking Obama to apologize...and are telling him to submit more tax returns.
Watching the White House Correspondents' dinner, Obama's comedic timing is really brilliant.
Yeah Obama is a natural comedian. Unlike Bush who didnt realise he was a comedian,
I have a girl at work that was harping on about Obama having no chance of being elected a few months ago because of his approval rating, and I said it doesn't matter because Congress's rating was far worse. Got to print that off and pin it to her monitor on Monday.
Bear in mind this young lady's husband and his father have a private jet, and her favorite news source is Fox
The weird thing is, the American public seem to just generally go "lousy Congress" rather than "lousy Republicans deliberately holding things up to make Obama look bad". It's infuriating. It's barely believable that the Republicans are looking at anything but a Congressional wipeout, never mind holding onto control of it. It's as much use voting in a Republican to Congress at the moment as voting a Sinn Féiner into Parliament.
That one has been posted on this page.
did anyone see this?
I don't know how you cope with these people on TV.Apparently Romney is the most underrated politician since Ronald Reagan.
The thing that gets me is, its fine to defend Romney-
Maybe there is a winding down time between leaving a post and filing with the SEC (although it would be good if he showed the regulation that states it), maybe as 100% shareholder he was electing to draw wages out for tax efficiency purposes and wasn't actually involved in day to day operations or even major decisions and so on..
but when you talk shit like that! and one second say 'Romney is neck and neck in the polls' then when Dean mentions a poll that says Romney isn't likeable turn around and dismiss polls as a load of rubbish it should be obvious to everyone that you have no objectivity and any points you make cannot be taken at face value.
did anyone see this?
Don't watch em works well
Don't watch em works well
sounds like a good policy!
All this negative campaigning isn't going to work.
Eventually the same old hand will be reused too many times, it's too early to hit Romney on Bain.
Eventually the same old hand will be reused too many times, it's too early to hit Romney on Bain.
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