Because we watch shows like The Daily Show, and the Colbert Report, which constantly take the piss out of the always inane and usually outright false things that these Fox News staples put out.
US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012
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Because we watch shows like The Daily Show, and the Colbert Report, which constantly take the piss out of the always inane and usually outright false things that these Fox News staples put out.
The problem with going after Obama on universal healthcare is that the GOP nominated the only other person in the entire United States who'd also signed it into law.
Just an aside...
Back in April did you lot on here discuss that subspecies of humanity known as Tennessee Republicans? When the state senate decided that hand holding was to be considered "a gateway to sex" and opened the way for legal action against teachers of classes concerning sex-ed.
But if that is the case then what are the tea party crowd and the evangelicals watching?Perhaps we don't want to know the answer to that question.
"Well first off, Nancy Paolosi is a dingbat" "this whole agenda of the far left running the Democratic Party" WOW
How much McCain must regret that decision of four years ago.
Segwaying to other forms of stupidity, Romney has it is alleged been telling the Governor of Florida to stop mentioning the improving economy in his state.
Back in April did you lot on here discuss that subspecies of humanity known as Tennessee Republicans? When the state senate decided that hand holding was to be considered "a gateway to sex" and opened the way for legal action against teachers of classes concerning sex-ed.
But if that is the case then what are the tea party crowd and the evangelicals watching?Perhaps we don't want to know the answer to that question.
"Well first off, Nancy Paolosi is a dingbat" "this whole agenda of the far left running the Democratic Party" WOW
How much McCain must regret that decision of four years ago.
Segwaying to other forms of stupidity, Romney has it is alleged been telling the Governor of Florida to stop mentioning the improving economy in his state.
Just an aside...
Back in April did you lot on here discuss that subspecies of humanity knows as Tennessee Republicans? When the state senate decided that hand holding was to be considered "a gateway to sex" and opened the way for legal action against teachers of classes concerning sex-ed.
But if that is the case then what are the tea party crowd and the evangelicals watching?Perhaps we don't want to know the answer to that question.
"Well first off, Nancy Paolosi is a dingbat" "this whole agenda of the far left running the Democratic Party" WOW
How much McCain must regret that decision of four years ago.
Segwaying to other forms of stupidity, Romney has it is alleged been telling the Governor of Florida to stop mentioning the improving economy in his state.
I used to have to deal with these cnuts on a daily basis. It was unbearable when Drinky McDumbass was president but it got even worse when Obama was elected. They are basically just racists and cant help themselves.
What way does your missus think this election will go?
think race is a factor for a significant minority.
the rest are highly disinformed.
just like they love medicare and social security though...they will come around regarding ACA.
They fear the super Pacs more that they admit?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-campaign-donors-to-send-him-more-money.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-campaign-donors-to-send-him-more-money.html
I don't watch them but have in the past and they are known political personalities over here.
huge money will influence elections. But I heard that all the tv time has been booked already in the fall.
Didnt they say that most people are influenced or have already made their minds up six months before November.. why then buy so much TV time. Surely there must be a more effective way of spending the billions that will be spend during the election season.
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To influence those not amongst the most. And of course the logic of well the other guy is going to do it, so I have to also. Then you get the adds paid for by PACs etc. trying to get their guy elected and gain influence with him. But yes like the conventions, they are a huge waste of money overall.
several States are using the opt out option in the ACA to go for Single Payer...Vermont and California. This is how single payer came to Canada.
will be interesting...
will be interesting...
Its not so much about voters who are already decided, as it is about getting people to actually turn up at the polls on election day. Romney's uber-generic Ken doll persona, coupled with his liberal record as a governor suggest that the Republican base will need extra motivation to make the effort to vote. That can be achieved by super pacs dumping loads of money into commercials demonizing Obama.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
even the ultra right Rassmusen poll has Obama above Romney.
even the ultra right Rassmusen poll has Obama above Romney.
Some very small sample sizes on many polls, and large margin of errors. With the general trend over the last three months seeing the gap narrowing the polls right now don't mean a whole lot. The state of the economy and Obamacare could easily swing it Romney's way.
You just can't rule anything out after GW getting two terms.
the fact is that Obama is ahead.
some drastic changes in the economy has to happen to reverse where we are.
Europe, war or another economic meltdown.
none of these seem to be on the horizon...even Europe seem to have found a solution at least in the short term..
some drastic changes in the economy has to happen to reverse where we are.
Europe, war or another economic meltdown.
none of these seem to be on the horizon...even Europe seem to have found a solution at least in the short term..
A more ominous problem for Romney. If Gary Johnson's Libertarian campaign picks up any steam between now and November, he's going to siphon off a few percentage points from the GOP. He's a fairly charismatic guy and will could cause Romney all sorts of headaches in states that are currently soft Romney leans (Missouri, Arizona, Indiana, and Montana spring to mind).
http://news.yahoo.com/polls-show-libertarian-candidate-gary-johnson-could-2012-163400981.html
http://news.yahoo.com/polls-show-libertarian-candidate-gary-johnson-could-2012-163400981.html
So Johnson is taking over from Ron Paul then? He wont have a Ross Perot effect but should make things somewhat harder for Romney
What of the Greens?
Has Obama done enough to prevent any noticeable impact on the Democratic vote?
It would be good to see them and other genuine alternatives make headway in the contests for the House and Senate.
Has Obama done enough to prevent any noticeable impact on the Democratic vote?
It would be good to see them and other genuine alternatives make headway in the contests for the House and Senate.
GWB ran against two elitist assholes that came across as smug pricks, fairly understandable why a good portion of the voters picked him. He certainly came across far more personable and not arrogant.
good point. that is why it baffles me why the Republicans picked the type of guy who does not connect with ordinary people...except Romney makes Gore and Kerry look like your average Joe.
Always have felt that if Gore doesn't behave like a total twat during 2 of the debates, then there is a good chance he would have won, Florida be damned. He actually made GWB look MORE Presidential. What a twat.
In defense of Gore, from his youth he was raised to be president by his father, so he developed this persona and sense of destiny and entitlement, which is probably why he appeared/came across a bit fake (IMO). I personally didn't like him. He was the exact opposite of Clinton in my view (in regards to persona) .
If was more the moment when he got up and walked over and just sort of stared at GWB. Also the sighing and tsking whenever GWB was speaking. All right for us to do that at home listening to GWB, not what you do when you are debating him.
But good points about Gore and Kerry.
Eric Fehrnstrom, Mitt Romney Adviser: Individual Mandate Is A 'Penalty,' Not A 'Tax'
The Romney Campaign. The Gift that keeps giving.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...-romney-individual-mandate-tax_n_1642951.html
TODD: It sounds like Governor Romney though agrees that it’s not a tax. So what you just said is that Governor Romney agrees that it’s not a tax. You guys called it a tax?
FEHRNSTROM: The governor disagreed with the ruling of the court. He agreed with the dissent written by Justice Scalia which very clearly stated that the mandate was not a tax.
TODD: Okay. Which -- so I guess -- we're -- I think we're talking around each other. The governor does not believe the mandate is a tax? That is what you're saying?
FEHRNSTROM: The governor believes that what we put in place in Massachusetts was a penalty and he disagrees with the court's ruling that the mandate was a tax.
TODD: But he agrees with the president that it is not -- and he believes that you should not call the tax penalty a tax, you should call it a penalty or a fee or a fine?
FEHRNSTROM: That's correct.
The Romney Campaign. The Gift that keeps giving.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...-romney-individual-mandate-tax_n_1642951.html
TODD: It sounds like Governor Romney though agrees that it’s not a tax. So what you just said is that Governor Romney agrees that it’s not a tax. You guys called it a tax?
FEHRNSTROM: The governor disagreed with the ruling of the court. He agreed with the dissent written by Justice Scalia which very clearly stated that the mandate was not a tax.
TODD: Okay. Which -- so I guess -- we're -- I think we're talking around each other. The governor does not believe the mandate is a tax? That is what you're saying?
FEHRNSTROM: The governor believes that what we put in place in Massachusetts was a penalty and he disagrees with the court's ruling that the mandate was a tax.
TODD: But he agrees with the president that it is not -- and he believes that you should not call the tax penalty a tax, you should call it a penalty or a fee or a fine?
FEHRNSTROM: That's correct.
Somebody's singing from the wrong hymn sheet. And with Romney already being a bit of a gaffe machine himself...
And with Romney already being a bit of a gaffe machine himself...I wouldnt have called Gore an elitist, he just ran a bad campaign against someone who honestly 75% of people with a decent intelligence who went to college would be able to out perform in a debate. Not to mention it took a fraudulent election in Florida and a supreme court decision to finally elect Bush.
Al Gore not an elitist?
Same goes for GWB though, his father was president just a few years ealier for fecks sake.
Al Gore not an elitist?
Same goes for GWB though, his father was president just a few years ealier for fecks sake.
Not in the traditional sense no, he certainly was painted that way by rhe right but Bush's position in life was just as elitist and prestigious compared to Gore. Gore was painted this way, as was Kerry, to take away from the Military service aspect of the campaigns. Bush as we know snorted coke and partied while supposedly on duty with the Texas Air National Guard. Many thousands of miles away from Vietnam whilst both Gore and Kerry where both in Vietnam albeit in Gores case as a solider journalist.
Elitist is a buzz word created by the right who by definition are usually from the same background and just as elite as those they use the term for.
As some one who has been witnessing Presidential elections since the 1970's let me say the truth is Elitist is a word used by both sides when it is convenient for them to do so.
elitist!
Elitist a buzz word created by the right?
It's actually a term used by the common folk to describe the upper class people from many decades ago, and is often associated with high-level politicians as the entire group is often from an elite circle of families (Kennedys, Rockefellers, Bushs, et al) and friendships (good ole boy network), and often act/appear as smug, smarter, and of higher standing. There's no doubt that Gore certainly came across as an arrogant prick while GWB came across far more personable to the common man. By the definition itself, both were elitist, yet Gore came across far more as depicted above.
Let's not just pick and chose which president/presidential candidate served in the war and others did not. Or shall we bring into question Clinton and Obama's non-service? McCain served in 'Nam, Obama was never in the service. Clinton draft-dodged where as Dole was a two-time Purple Heart recipient and awarded a Bronze Star for his WWII service, and we all know the elder Bush's distinguished military and intelligence career. Did those factor in your decisions on who to vote?
It works both ways not just when trying to fit one's argument.
Clinton objected to the war. Different from Bush who did not even serve in the guards...while he had signed up.
There were no wars during Obama's time.
There were no wars during Obama's time.
Clinton objecting is still draft-dodging and plenty of those that served certainly do not hold him in high esteem for it. Plenty objected to the war and still served against their wishes, though they didn't have a US senator providing a way out as Clinton did.
I do not pardon Bush Jr for his ability to play guardsman, but it's rather ridiculous to call him out when others never served at all.
There may not have been wars but there conflicts and other stuff during a tenure in which Obama could have served 10-20 years, even if as a guardsman or reservist. Even today, not all military see combat as not all military are infantry, specops, security or pilots.
I don't give priority to another with service. I used to believe the president should have served at one time or another but I no longer feel this way.
Many ways to serve. The Forces are not the only way. Obama worked with the poor. He could have taken a high paying job as an attorney.Personally I believe all young people should serve the community in one way or another including the forces if that is their choice. It builds character.
As for Clinton, you can call him a coward or just someone who refused to fight in an unjust war. Only Clinton will know in his heart. But many people felt like him...thus why he did get elected.
Elitist a buzz word created by the right?
There's no doubt that Gore certainly came across as an arrogant prick while GWB came across far more personable to the common man. By the definition itself, both were elitist, yet Gore came across far more as depicted above.
Let's not just pick and chose which president/presidential candidate served in the war and others did not. Or shall we bring into question Clinton and Obama's non-service? McCain served in 'Nam, Obama was never in the service. Clinton draft-dodged where as Dole was a two-time Purple Heart recipient and awarded a Bronze Star for his WWII service, and we all know the elder Bush's distinguished military and intelligence career. Did those factor in your decisions on who to vote?
It works both ways not just when trying to fit one's argument.
Who was talking about Clinton or Obama? Bush wasnt up against Clinton or Obama. Really the term elitist is used by the common folk? I lived in a red state for 10 years and talked politics with those in the left right and middle and not one of them ever used the term elitist. Its a buzz word used to deride the democratic candidate, especially if he is ivy league educated, and by contrast to make the republican candidate seem by comparison to be more down to earth. Don't try to preach politics to me mate Ive lived in two of the most political countries on the planet and I know how they talk to the simple folk like yourself.
Yeah lets see how often Romney, a rich ivy league educated man, is called elitist and go back and see how Kerry was treated. Kerry a man from almost the exact same background as Romney.
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