UNO Draft

I did think the double pick was a bit of a poisoned chalice. If you have to play a draw 2, skip, or reverse in your first pick, you automatically hurt yourself. I think Moby had better luck with it when he reversed the turn away from himself when it was yellow.
 
Anyone online who can start the game? Won't have time during the week.

Didnt even know you guys arranged the game, there was nothing in schedule post. Will start the game in 30-45 minutes...
 
Watching a bit of Czibor today.

Something I never paid too much attention to before, looks like his stronger foot was his right one. Took all his corners with the right as well.

Knew he was not an orthodox only cross into the box winger but never thought his preferred foot was not his left one.

@Pat_Mustard
 
@Gio tell me about Ian Durrant. I just read Andy Gray's autobiography (:nervous:) and both he and Souness seem to reckon that he was more talented than Gascoigne pre-injury. I only remember his post-injury career where he blends into a kaleidoscope of bastards who dicked on Celtic every time I watched a Old Firm match back then :(. That's high praise though, and I had a quick gander on some Rangers forums where people rate him very highly.
Aye, Ray Wilkins made the same comparison with Gascoigne as well. Hard to say how good he was capable of becoming given he suffered that leg break at just 21 which effectively ended his career as a major prospect. At the time he looked like the best thing coming through the Scottish game in 15-20 years. Stood out a lot in British football in the 1980s as a slight, technical midfielder weaving in and out of Scottish hatchet men. Solid box-to-box game too contributing at both ends and often ghosting into the box with late runs. Developed under the tutelage of famous disciplinarian Jock Wallace and then Graeme Souness which instilled grit, fitness and strength into his boyish physique. Made a habit of scoring in big games, usually against Aberdeen and Celtic, scoring in cup finals against both sides in those first couple of seasons. Him, Cooper and Souness were a sensational midfield around 1986/87. In build, position and style, I'd probably compare him to Giresse or a young Scholes - perhaps slightly niftier slaloming around players with slightly less of a worldly ping of his right peg. Ultimately he might have needed to leave Scotland to fully maximise his talents, as although Rangers were a big deal, he was always going to be vulnerable to the type of challenge that ruined his career, as well as the off-the-pitch drinking culture that immersed most British dressing rooms. Apparently Souness was open to him going to Sampdoria where he could have formed a superb central midfield partnership with Cerezo. You can probably see a parallel there with McStay at Celtic who nevertheless forged a fine career but whose international appreciation might have moved up a couple of notches had he went to a league with a wider audience.

The injury killed Durrant though - three years out - and he lost a couple of yards. Did hear that around 30,000 turned up for his comeback game in a reserve fixture, which showed how highly regarded he was amongst the Rangers support. Basically became a more horizontal player in the centre of the park, rather than that vertical threat that could bury teams. Credit to him that he could reinvent himself and carve out a solid career. Particularly impressive in the 1992/93 Champions League run (see the smooth give-and-go run against Lyngby or the sizzling half-volley away to Marseille in the de-facto semi-final).

 
Watching a bit of Czibor today.

Something I never paid too much attention to before, looks like his stronger foot was his right one. Took all his corners with the right as well.

Knew he was not an orthodox only cross into the box winger but never thought his preferred foot was not his left one.

@Pat_Mustard

I'd never noticed that he took corners right-footed before but you're right:



From 1:50 here if anyone's interested. He scored an absolute thundercnut of a long ranger there with his left foot, but had a vicious shot with his right too:



I just submitted my tactics and I'm good to start any time. Not sure if I'll be around much until later though, but fire away without me and I'll get involved at some stage.
 
Aye, Ray Wilkins made the same comparison with Gascoigne as well. Hard to say how good he was capable of becoming given he suffered that leg break at just 21 which effectively ended his career as a major prospect. At the time he looked like the best thing coming through the Scottish game in 15-20 years. Stood out a lot in British football in the 1980s as a slight, technical midfielder weaving in and out of Scottish hatchet men. Solid box-to-box game too contributing at both ends and often ghosting into the box with late runs. Developed under the tutelage of famous disciplinarian Jock Wallace and then Graeme Souness which instilled grit, fitness and strength into his boyish physique. Made a habit of scoring in big games, usually against Aberdeen and Celtic, scoring in cup finals against both sides in those first couple of seasons. Him, Cooper and Souness were a sensational midfield around 1986/87. In build, position and style, I'd probably compare him to Giresse or a young Scholes - perhaps slightly niftier slaloming around players with slightly less of a worldly ping of his right peg. Ultimately he might have needed to leave Scotland to fully maximise his talents, as although Rangers were a big deal, he was always going to be vulnerable to the type of challenge that ruined his career, as well as the off-the-pitch drinking culture that immersed most British dressing rooms. Apparently Souness was open to him going to Sampdoria where he could have formed a superb central midfield partnership with Cerezo. You can probably see a parallel there with McStay at Celtic who nevertheless forged a fine career but whose international appreciation might have moved up a couple of notches had he went to a league with a wider audience.

The injury killed Durrant though - three years out - and he lost a couple of yards. Did hear that around 30,000 turned up for his comeback game in a reserve fixture, which showed how highly regarded he was amongst the Rangers support. Basically became a more horizontal player in the centre of the park, rather than that vertical threat that could bury teams. Credit to him that he could reinvent himself and carve out a solid career. Particularly impressive in the 1992/93 Champions League run (see the smooth give-and-go run against Lyngby or the sizzling half-volley away to Marseille in the de-facto semi-final).



Great post Gio, cheers! Will give that documentary a watch soon.
 
Watching a bit of Czibor today.

Something I never paid too much attention to before, looks like his stronger foot was his right one. Took all his corners with the right as well.

Knew he was not an orthodox only cross into the box winger but never thought his preferred foot was not his left one.

@Pat_Mustard
Yeah. He loved wandering right across the front line. Shows how modern that Hungary side were in that they had a 'wrong-footed' winger on one flank, which would have been sacrilege for the majority of teams until this century.
 
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End of Round 1
Teams through to the QF

3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch (dropped) 5) A. Gouaméné 6) T. Cerezo 7) A. Robben 8) O. Sivori 9) P. Vierchowod 10) J. Armfield 11) G. Ochoa 12) R. Perfumo 13) J. Tigana 14) J. Masopust

4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer 5) Sócrates 6) C. Gentile 7) J. Charles 8) Z. Boniek 9) T. Gemmell 10) R. Marquez 11) P. Maldini 12) P. Schmeichel 13) M. Kaltz

6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster (Dropped) 7) S. Marzolini 8) M. Amoros 9) J. Barnes 10) M. Essien 11)L. Conejo 12) L. King 13) T. Silva 14) S. Mazzola

10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi 12) L. Suarez 13) T. Howard

11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) M. Tresor 12) K. Toure 13) R. van Nistelrooy

12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane 13) Jairzinho 14) B. McNeill

13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon 9) V. Enyeama 10) Marcelo 11) M. Diarra 12) L. Modric 13) K. Mbappe 14) A. Pirlo

16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel 12) B. Lizarazu 13) N. Goncalves[/QUOTE]

Losers

1. 2mufc0 - 1) B. Charlton 2) J. Zanetti 3) G. Batistuta 4) Rivaldo 5) F. Cannavaro 6) V. Voronin 7) L. Junior 8) Gerson 9) J. Terry 10) M. Salah 11) J. Chilavert 12) R. Houseman 13) H. Schumacher

2. Michaelf - 1) S. Matthews 2) Didi 3) D. Passarella 4) L. Brady 5) F. Rijkaard 6) A. Demyanenko 7) A. Spencer 8) B. Trautmann 9) L. Belloumi 10) C. Gamarra 11) J. Baxter 12) Y. Okudera 13) T. Burgnich

5. Pat - 1) D. Edwards 2) R. Krol 3) D. Alves 4) C. Waddle 5) S. Kocsis 6) Z. Czibor 7) K.H. Schnellinger 8) D. Walker 9) A. Pele 10) P. Jennings 11) N. Naybet 12) Pirri 13) J. Joya

7. onenil - 1) T. Finney 2) R. Gullit 3) D. Drogba 4) B. Bremner 5) B. Vogts 6) E. Francescoli 7) Dunga 8) S. Campbell 9) S. Pearce 10) R. Harris 11) K. Keller 12) T. Adams 13) R. Rojas

8. Edgar - 1) P. Scholes 2) S. Eto'o 3) P. Nedved 4) Son Heung-Min 5) A. Sandro 6) P. Vieira 7) J. Santamaria 8) A. Iniesta 9) K. Koulibaly 10) P. Shilton 11) J. Bell 12) D. Bergkamp 13) W. Sagnol

9. Zlatan7 - 1) G. Weah 2) L. Ronaldo 3) Y. Toure 4) J. Stam 5) R. Marquez (dropped) 6) P. Gascoigne 7) P. Lahm 8) O. Ardiles (dropped) 9) D. Deschamps 10) G. Zambrotta 11) Zito 12) H. Nakata 13) E. Cantona 14) F. Hierro 15) D. Zoff

14. Himannv - 1) R. Baggio 2) M. Salah (Dropped) 3) G. Souness 4) K. Dalglish 5) D. Mackay 6) A. Brehme 7) G. Bergomi 8) T. Nkono 9) J. Bell (Dropped) 10) R. Kopa 11) D. Godin 12) Kaka 13) Jorginho 14) A. Shesternyov 15) L. Yashin

15. Indnyc - 1) M. Desailly (Dropped) 2) L. Suarez Miramontes (Dropped) 3) K. Navas 4) R. Giggs 5) I. Rush 6) J. Molby 7) W. Rooney 8) L. Suarez Miramontes 9) Ji-Sung Park 10) C. Bum Kun 11) H. Myung-bo 12) A. Cabrini 13) Lucio 14) Leandro 15) M. Silva
 
Reinforcement rules
R0.
The sooner you finish your initial squad the better position you have in first reinforcement round.
R1. Extra 2 players per Reinforcement Round. Players from losing teams(no GOATs) are now open to pick, as well as all undrafted players that are not on the GOAT list

So draw4 card is removed for this part as is the teammate/WC rule. @MJJ rule still in full flight. All card you had in your hands will be removed and you will be dealt a new set of 5 cards. We will continue the game from the last card that was played and that was - Red 1
 
10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi 12) L. Suarez 13) T. Howard

11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) M. Tresor 12) K. Toure 13) R. van Nistelrooy

12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane 13) Jairzinho 14) B. McNeill

16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel 12) B. Lizarazu 13) N. Goncalves

6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster (Dropped) 7) S. Marzolini 8) M. Amoros 9) J. Barnes 10) M. Essien 11)L. Conejo 12) L. King 13) T. Silva 14) S. Mazzola

13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon 9) V. Enyeama 10) Marcelo 11) M. Diarra 12) L. Modric 13) K. Mbappe 14) A. Pirlo

4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer 5) Sócrates 6) C. Gentile 7) J. Charles 8) Z. Boniek 9) T. Gemmell 10) R. Marquez 11) P. Maldini 12) P. Schmeichel 13) M. Kaltz

3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch (dropped) 5) A. Gouaméné 6) T. Cerezo 7) A. Robben 8) O. Sivori 9) P. Vierchowod 10) J. Armfield 11) G. Ochoa 12) R. Perfumo 13) J. Tigana 14) J. Masopust

Last card - Red 1
 
10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi 12) L. Suarez 13) T. Howard 14) R. Houseman

11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) M. Tresor 12) K. Toure 13) R. van Nistelrooy

12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane 13) Jairzinho 14) B. McNeill

16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel 12) B. Lizarazu 13) N. Goncalves

6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster (Dropped) 7) S. Marzolini 8) M. Amoros 9) J. Barnes 10) M. Essien 11)L. Conejo 12) L. King 13) T. Silva 14) S. Mazzola

13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon 9) V. Enyeama 10) Marcelo 11) M. Diarra 12) L. Modric 13) K. Mbappe 14) A. Pirlo

4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer 5) Sócrates 6) C. Gentile 7) J. Charles 8) Z. Boniek 9) T. Gemmell 10) R. Marquez 11) P. Maldini 12) P. Schmeichel 13) M. Kaltz

3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch (dropped) 5) A. Gouaméné 6) T. Cerezo 7) A. Robben 8) O. Sivori 9) P. Vierchowod 10) J. Armfield 11) G. Ochoa 12) R. Perfumo 13) J. Tigana 14) J. Masopust

Last card- GREEN 1

@GodShaveTheQueen
 
I'm going to kick myself when I find a better right winger available, but that took me ages and I needed to get back to work :lol:

Hoping for a yellow plague further down the list.
 
I'm going to kick myself when I find a better right winger available, but that took me ages and I needed to get back to work :lol:

Hoping for a yellow plague further down the list.
Apart for Garrincha, Messi and Jairzinho the rest are onn a similar level imo. Houseman is a good pick, some good videos showcasing his talents on YouTube.
 
10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi 12) L. Suarez 13) T. Howard 14) R. Houseman

11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) M. Tresor 12) K. Toure 13) R. van Nistelrooy 14). J. Zanetti

12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane 13) Jairzinho 14) B. McNeill

16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel 12) B. Lizarazu 13) N. Goncalves

6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster (Dropped) 7) S. Marzolini 8) M. Amoros 9) J. Barnes 10) M. Essien 11)L. Conejo 12) L. King 13) T. Silva 14) S. Mazzola

13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon 9) V. Enyeama 10) Marcelo 11) M. Diarra 12) L. Modric 13) K. Mbappe 14) A. Pirlo

4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer 5) Sócrates 6) C. Gentile 7) J. Charles 8) Z. Boniek 9) T. Gemmell 10) R. Marquez 11) P. Maldini 12) P. Schmeichel 13) M. Kaltz

3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch (dropped) 5) A. Gouaméné 6) T. Cerezo 7) A. Robben 8) O. Sivori 9) P. Vierchowod 10) J. Armfield 11) G. Ochoa 12) R. Perfumo 13) J. Tigana 14) J. Masopust

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@MJJ @syrian_scholes
 
Draw 2 green
Batistuta

10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi 12) L. Suarez 13) T. Howard 14) R. Houseman

11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) M. Tresor 12) K. Toure 13) R. van Nistelrooy 14). J. Zanetti

12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane 13) Jairzinho 14) B. McNeill 15. Batistuta

16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel 12) B. Lizarazu 13) N. Goncalves

6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster (Dropped) 7) S. Marzolini 8) M. Amoros 9) J. Barnes 10) M. Essien 11)L. Conejo 12) L. King 13) T. Silva 14) S. Mazzola

13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon 9) V. Enyeama 10) Marcelo 11) M. Diarra 12) L. Modric 13) K. Mbappe 14) A. Pirlo

4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer 5) Sócrates 6) C. Gentile 7) J. Charles 8) Z. Boniek 9) T. Gemmell 10) R. Marquez 11) P. Maldini 12) P. Schmeichel 13) M. Kaltz

3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch (dropped) 5) A. Gouaméné 6) T. Cerezo 7) A. Robben 8) O. Sivori 9) P. Vierchowod 10) J. Armfield 11) G. Ochoa 12) R. Perfumo 13) J. Tigana 14) J. Masopust

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@MJJ @syrian_scholes[/QUOTE]

@Moby
 
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My team is being picked apart