UNO Draft
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You're disappointed that you didn't get Iniesta as your 12th pick?
Yes have been waiting for it to be red on my turn for ages
Oh ffs, feck you.
The legend of Cha Bum kun
Cha Bum-kun, voted ‘Asia’s Player of the Century’ in 1999, remains an idol to many fans in both Germany and South Korea, famed for his meek temperament (in his entire career he received just a single yellow card) and the ferocity of a shot which brought him 55 goals for South Korea, and a further 98 in the 308 Bundesliga games he played between 1978 and 1989.
The elder Cha made the first of his 121 appearances for the South Korean national team at the age of just 19 while he was still at Korea University. Six years later, now playing for the Korean Air Force team, Cha was spotted by newly-promoted Bundesliga side SV Darmstadt 98 at the Bangkok Asian Games and became the first Korean footballer to be signed by a European club side. Although he managed just one game for Darmstadt before complications with his military service forced him to return home, Cha had already caught the eye of Eintracht Frankfurt coach Friedel Rausch.
“We saw him during a tournament in South Korea,” Rausch recalled in an interview with the Bundesliga website three decades later. “No other player has convinced me during trials as quickly as he did. He was the best and most willing forward I’ve ever seen.”
“We saw you for the first time, lovely, against Stuttgart,” Eintracht fan and poet Eckhard Henscheid wrote in his Hymne auf Bum Kun Cha (Hymn to Bum Kun Cha), which recounts the ninety minutes of Cha’s home debut. Five minutes after half-time, the ‘Star of the East’ managed to evade his man-marker, Karl-Heinz Förster, heading the goal that sealed a 2-0 win for Frankfurt. The following weekend he scored again, away at Eintracht Braunschweig, striking a third against Leverkusen the game after that. Alex Ferguson called him “unstoppable” after seeing his Aberdeen side knocked out of the UEFA Cup; Cha scoring an early goal in the first-leg at Pittodrie. By the end of the season, the Korean had rebuffed an attempt to naturalize him by the German FA, and won his first major trophy, helping Frankfurt overcome holders Borussia Mönchengladbach in the UEFA Cup Final. “I am young and he is among the best attackers in the word,” said a contrite Lothar Matthäus, after Cha had slipped his marker to help set up Fred Schaub’s crucial late goal in the game’s second leg.
Cha’s lowest ebb in German football followed soon after, when he was taken to hospital with a broken rib after a reckless tackle from Leverkusen’s Jürgen Gelsdorf. He recovered in time to score in Frankfurt’s 3-1 German Cup Final win over Kaiserslautern, but Eintracht were already a team in decline. After scoring 46 goals in 122 games, Cha was sold to Leverkusen at the end of the 1982-83 season. He greeted Gelsdorf with a handshake (“Fair play is Cha’s religion,” Henscheid had written) and his new fans with a brace of goals against Nürnberg in his first home game.
Cha’s career flourished. In 1986 he scored 17 league goals as Bayer finished sixth and qualified for their first ever European campaign. South Korea were also making history that year, having qualified for their first World Cup since Switzerland in 1954 by defeating Japan in the final qualifying round. Cha was tempted out of international retirement at the age of 32, but was double-marked as the Koreans drew 1-1 with Bulgaria and lost to both Argentina and Italy.
"We didn't achieve our first win but the campaign was not disappointing as we played hard and well against the best teams in the world,” Cha later said. “I think the lessons we learned and experiences we gained there helped lay the foundations that eventually produced the tremendous success at the 2002 finals."
But Cha’s greatest moment on a football pitch was arguably still to come. In May 1988 he won his second UEFA Cup winners’ medal in the wake of Leverkusen’s miraculous comeback from a three-nil first-leg deficit to the Spanish side Espanyol. After a goalless first half, Leverkusen score two goals either side of the hour, Tita scrambling the ball over the line before Falko Götz’s crashes a header past Thomas Nkono in the Espanyol goal. With just nine minutes left to play, Cha drifts off his marker, Santiago Urquiaga, as a free kick from the right of the penalty area is struck high and fast across the six-yard line. The ball dips to meet Cha’s rising head; Nkono, wrong-footed, tumbles across the goalline as the ball floats into the net. The Leverkusen bench spills onto the pitch, “Cha Bum! Third goal!” the commentator screams. Javier Clemente drags wistfully on his cigarette.
The game goes to penalties. Leverkusen’s Ralf Falkenmayer misses, while Pichi Alonso and Job score the first two for Espanyol. But then the hapless Urquiaga, Spain’s first-choice right-back in the 1984 European Championships, hits the underside of the crossbar, and when Sebastián Losada, on-loan from Real Madrid, skies his side’s fifth penalty, Leverkusen have won their first major honour in 84 years of existence. “Best player on Earth: Tscha Boom” said one newspaper headline the following day. “No one heads the ball more beautifully than Cha Bum Kun.”
In Germany, Cha’s legacy still endures. When Michael Ballack arrived in Korea ahead of the 2002 World Cup, he had only one question for the assembled media. “Is this Cha Bum’s country?” he asked. “I’ve always wanted to come here.”
“The purpose of my visit to South Korea is to promote both countries’ progress and to strengthen our friendship,” Chancellor Gerhard Schröder said at the beginning of a state trip to Seoul. “But I want to meet Cha Bum first.” Günter Netzer thought Cha “would have been a starting forward for any club in the world”.
“I am considered an accomplished footballer,” Jürgen Klinsmann once told an interviewer, “but I am not at the level of Cha.” In a kicker poll of the Bundesliga’s best ever forwards, Cha came ninth, splitting Klaus Allofs and Karl Heinz Riedle.
Even now, there’s a Frankfurt band named Bum Khun Cha Youth and the Cha Bum Kun Award is given annually to South Korea’s most promising schoolboy footballer (previous recipients include Park Ji-sung and ex-Middlesbrough forward Lee Dong-guk). Together with Japan’s Yasuhiko Okudera, who won the Bundesliga title with 1. FC Köln in 1978, Cha was a true footballing pioneer, the first in a line of Asian players which today includes Hidetoshi Nakata, Lee Young-pyo, Keisuke Honda, Shunsuke Nakamura, Lee Chung-yong and Shinji Kagawa. All of them owe a debt to Cha Bum-kun.
Cha Bum-kun, voted ‘Asia’s Player of the Century’ in 1999, remains an idol to many fans in both Germany and South Korea, famed for his meek temperament (in his entire career he received just a single yellow card) and the ferocity of a shot which brought him 55 goals for South Korea, and a further 98 in the 308 Bundesliga games he played between 1978 and 1989.
The elder Cha made the first of his 121 appearances for the South Korean national team at the age of just 19 while he was still at Korea University. Six years later, now playing for the Korean Air Force team, Cha was spotted by newly-promoted Bundesliga side SV Darmstadt 98 at the Bangkok Asian Games and became the first Korean footballer to be signed by a European club side. Although he managed just one game for Darmstadt before complications with his military service forced him to return home, Cha had already caught the eye of Eintracht Frankfurt coach Friedel Rausch.
“We saw him during a tournament in South Korea,” Rausch recalled in an interview with the Bundesliga website three decades later. “No other player has convinced me during trials as quickly as he did. He was the best and most willing forward I’ve ever seen.”
“We saw you for the first time, lovely, against Stuttgart,” Eintracht fan and poet Eckhard Henscheid wrote in his Hymne auf Bum Kun Cha (Hymn to Bum Kun Cha), which recounts the ninety minutes of Cha’s home debut. Five minutes after half-time, the ‘Star of the East’ managed to evade his man-marker, Karl-Heinz Förster, heading the goal that sealed a 2-0 win for Frankfurt. The following weekend he scored again, away at Eintracht Braunschweig, striking a third against Leverkusen the game after that. Alex Ferguson called him “unstoppable” after seeing his Aberdeen side knocked out of the UEFA Cup; Cha scoring an early goal in the first-leg at Pittodrie. By the end of the season, the Korean had rebuffed an attempt to naturalize him by the German FA, and won his first major trophy, helping Frankfurt overcome holders Borussia Mönchengladbach in the UEFA Cup Final. “I am young and he is among the best attackers in the word,” said a contrite Lothar Matthäus, after Cha had slipped his marker to help set up Fred Schaub’s crucial late goal in the game’s second leg.
Cha’s lowest ebb in German football followed soon after, when he was taken to hospital with a broken rib after a reckless tackle from Leverkusen’s Jürgen Gelsdorf. He recovered in time to score in Frankfurt’s 3-1 German Cup Final win over Kaiserslautern, but Eintracht were already a team in decline. After scoring 46 goals in 122 games, Cha was sold to Leverkusen at the end of the 1982-83 season. He greeted Gelsdorf with a handshake (“Fair play is Cha’s religion,” Henscheid had written) and his new fans with a brace of goals against Nürnberg in his first home game.
Cha’s career flourished. In 1986 he scored 17 league goals as Bayer finished sixth and qualified for their first ever European campaign. South Korea were also making history that year, having qualified for their first World Cup since Switzerland in 1954 by defeating Japan in the final qualifying round. Cha was tempted out of international retirement at the age of 32, but was double-marked as the Koreans drew 1-1 with Bulgaria and lost to both Argentina and Italy.
"We didn't achieve our first win but the campaign was not disappointing as we played hard and well against the best teams in the world,” Cha later said. “I think the lessons we learned and experiences we gained there helped lay the foundations that eventually produced the tremendous success at the 2002 finals."
But Cha’s greatest moment on a football pitch was arguably still to come. In May 1988 he won his second UEFA Cup winners’ medal in the wake of Leverkusen’s miraculous comeback from a three-nil first-leg deficit to the Spanish side Espanyol. After a goalless first half, Leverkusen score two goals either side of the hour, Tita scrambling the ball over the line before Falko Götz’s crashes a header past Thomas Nkono in the Espanyol goal. With just nine minutes left to play, Cha drifts off his marker, Santiago Urquiaga, as a free kick from the right of the penalty area is struck high and fast across the six-yard line. The ball dips to meet Cha’s rising head; Nkono, wrong-footed, tumbles across the goalline as the ball floats into the net. The Leverkusen bench spills onto the pitch, “Cha Bum! Third goal!” the commentator screams. Javier Clemente drags wistfully on his cigarette.
The game goes to penalties. Leverkusen’s Ralf Falkenmayer misses, while Pichi Alonso and Job score the first two for Espanyol. But then the hapless Urquiaga, Spain’s first-choice right-back in the 1984 European Championships, hits the underside of the crossbar, and when Sebastián Losada, on-loan from Real Madrid, skies his side’s fifth penalty, Leverkusen have won their first major honour in 84 years of existence. “Best player on Earth: Tscha Boom” said one newspaper headline the following day. “No one heads the ball more beautifully than Cha Bum Kun.”
In Germany, Cha’s legacy still endures. When Michael Ballack arrived in Korea ahead of the 2002 World Cup, he had only one question for the assembled media. “Is this Cha Bum’s country?” he asked. “I’ve always wanted to come here.”
“The purpose of my visit to South Korea is to promote both countries’ progress and to strengthen our friendship,” Chancellor Gerhard Schröder said at the beginning of a state trip to Seoul. “But I want to meet Cha Bum first.” Günter Netzer thought Cha “would have been a starting forward for any club in the world”.
“I am considered an accomplished footballer,” Jürgen Klinsmann once told an interviewer, “but I am not at the level of Cha.” In a kicker poll of the Bundesliga’s best ever forwards, Cha came ninth, splitting Klaus Allofs and Karl Heinz Riedle.
Even now, there’s a Frankfurt band named Bum Khun Cha Youth and the Cha Bum Kun Award is given annually to South Korea’s most promising schoolboy footballer (previous recipients include Park Ji-sung and ex-Middlesbrough forward Lee Dong-guk). Together with Japan’s Yasuhiko Okudera, who won the Bundesliga title with 1. FC Köln in 1978, Cha was a true footballing pioneer, the first in a line of Asian players which today includes Hidetoshi Nakata, Lee Young-pyo, Keisuke Honda, Shunsuke Nakamura, Lee Chung-yong and Shinji Kagawa. All of them owe a debt to Cha Bum-kun.
Yes have been waiting for it to be red on my turn for ages
Oh, the arrogance of being ever lucky in this draft!
This is my third yellow round, luck shmuck.
NKono dropped. You have Campos only. But the rest of your team....
That's how you play this game!Its pretty silly that Mjj and Moby are going to complete teams before the top gets their fifth pick
Not necessarily a good thing especially if we are engulfed by the yellow plague again.
The fact that I had to go for two keepers last time out makes my last two picks pretty critical and likely both will be in first 11, so getting a bad color could put all that luck down.
Whatever you say matey
And the fact the more people finish their teams, the easier it is for remaining ones to freely pick the remaining talent.
You have to play all players by the second round.
Yeah, am aware. That's why these two picks are pretty crucial.
keepers? A draft veteran whining about keepers of all things?!?!You aren't convincing anyone at the top Mr. Dzajic-Figo-Laudrup-Henry-Tardelli
Where does it say this?
You aren't convincing anyone at the top Mr. Dzajic-Figo-Laudrup-Henry-Tardelli
All I am saying is that having to complete your team later than others isnt necessarily a bad thing as long you as get the right color when you need it.
Sure if you were Indy. But that doesn't apply to your side where you already got the top run of Europe
Ignore the red and green brigade moby, the top will never understand us bottom dwellers who have to navigate the yellow seas.
Ffs
If you two keep whining after your luck so far I'm going to bribe the committee to make you play each other
Yeah that was definitely a good advantage to have. But the yellow fever is fecking us towards the end.
Yeah that was definitely a good advantage to have. But the yellow fever is fecking us towards the end.
Its your own fault for picking only the 3rd best US keeper
For United fans, he was a nightmare.Its your own fault for picking only the 3rd best US keeper
It’s harsh playing the two subs the next round. I’m not complaining about it, just stating.
Makes me think do I play my strongest eleven to try and get through knowing I’m going to be fielding a weaker team in the next match or risk playing the weaker team first and may not get the chance to play the strongest player in that position.
Makes me think do I play my strongest eleven to try and get through knowing I’m going to be fielding a weaker team in the next match or risk playing the weaker team first and may not get the chance to play the strongest player in that position.
Yes, but stillThat choice is exactly why its a good mechanic
1. 2mufc0 - 1) B. Charlton 2) J. Zanetti 3) Batistuta 4) Rivaldo
2. Michaelf - 1) S. Matthews 2) Didi 3) D. Passarella 4) L. Brady
3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch 5) A. Gouaméné
4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer
5. Pat - 1) D. Edwards 2) R. Krol 3) D. Alves 4) C. Waddle 5) S. Kocsis 6) Z. Czibor
6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster
7. onenil - 1) T. Finney 2) R. Gullit 3) D. Drogba 4) B. Bremner 5) B. Vogts 6) E. Francescoli
8. Edgar - 1) P. Scholes 2) S. Eto'o 3) P. Nedved 4) Son Heung-Min 5) A. Sandro 6) P. Vieira 7) J. Santamaria 8) A. Iniesta
9. Zlatan7 - 1) G. Weah 2) L. Ronaldo 3) Y. Toure 4) J. Stam 5) R. Marquez 6) P. Gascoigne 7) P. Lahm 8) O. Ardiles 9) D. Deschamps 10) G. Zambrotta
10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi
11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) K. Toure
12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane
13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon
14. Himannv - 1) R. Baggio 2) M. Salah (Dropped) 3) G. Souness 4) K. Dalglish 5) D. Mackay 6) A. Brehme 7) G. Bergomi 8) T. Nkono 8) J. Bell
15. Indnyc - 1) M. Desailly (Dropped) 2) L. Suarez Miramontes (Dropped) 3) K. Navas 4) R. Giggs 5) I. Rush 6) J. Molby 7) W. Rooney 8) L. Suarez Miramontes 9) Ji-Sung Park 10) C. Bum Kun 11) H. Myung-bo
16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel
Last card - Drop 2 Yellow
2. Michaelf - 1) S. Matthews 2) Didi 3) D. Passarella 4) L. Brady
3. Harms - 1) D. Law 2) Ronaldinho 3) R. Carlos 4) B. Murdoch 5) A. Gouaméné
4. Skizzo - 1) R. Keane 2) F. Gento 3) F. Redondo 4) M. Sammer
5. Pat - 1) D. Edwards 2) R. Krol 3) D. Alves 4) C. Waddle 5) S. Kocsis 6) Z. Czibor
6. green_smiley - 1) B. Robson 2) Magico Gonzalez 3) G. Best 4) B. Lennox 6) U. Seeler 7) Kh Forster
7. onenil - 1) T. Finney 2) R. Gullit 3) D. Drogba 4) B. Bremner 5) B. Vogts 6) E. Francescoli
8. Edgar - 1) P. Scholes 2) S. Eto'o 3) P. Nedved 4) Son Heung-Min 5) A. Sandro 6) P. Vieira 7) J. Santamaria 8) A. Iniesta
9. Zlatan7 - 1) G. Weah 2) L. Ronaldo 3) Y. Toure 4) J. Stam 5) R. Marquez 6) P. Gascoigne 7) P. Lahm 8) O. Ardiles 9) D. Deschamps 10) G. Zambrotta
10. willhse456 - 1) Z. Zidane 2) L. Thuram 3) H. Sanchez 4) B. Schuster 5) E. Davids 6) G. Banks 7) N. Santos 8) C. Puyol 9) H. Chumpitaz 10) H. Stoichkov 11) F. Baresi
11. GSTQ - 1) Eusebio 2) K.H. Rummenigge 3) A. Carbajal 4) D. Irwin 5) N. Stiles 6) G. Bale 7) N. Southall 8) O. Ruggeri 9) S. Keita 10) Jair da Costa 11) K. Toure
12. MJJ/Scholes - 1) G. Scirea 2) M. Desailly 3) T. Nkono (Dropped) 4) A. Cole 5) J. Greaves 6) J. Johnstone 7) D. Blanchflower 8) P. Breitner 9) D. Santos 10) J. Campos 11) R. Rivelino 12) S. Mane
13. P-Nut - 1) B. Schweinsteiger 2) M. Essien (Dropped) 3) R. Ferdinand 4) D. Beckham 5) K. Keegan 6) C. Ronaldo 7) N. Vidic 8) Maicon
14. Himannv - 1) R. Baggio 2) M. Salah (Dropped) 3) G. Souness 4) K. Dalglish 5) D. Mackay 6) A. Brehme 7) G. Bergomi 8) T. Nkono 8) J. Bell
15. Indnyc - 1) M. Desailly (Dropped) 2) L. Suarez Miramontes (Dropped) 3) K. Navas 4) R. Giggs 5) I. Rush 6) J. Molby 7) W. Rooney 8) L. Suarez Miramontes 9) Ji-Sung Park 10) C. Bum Kun 11) H. Myung-bo
16. Moby - 1) D. Dzajic 2) L. Figo 3) J. Giles 4) P. McGrath 5) T. Henry 6) M. Laudrup 7) A. Hansen 8) D. McGrain 9) M. Tardelli 10) B. Grobbelar 11) B. Friedel
Last card - Drop 2 Yellow
Bepo can you please check if he has the cards needed to make his pick too and delete any reverse yellow cards.
MJJ Rule
NEW RULE!
Anyone that doesnt update the list will be punished with an invalid pick and will have to pick from the yellow pool! Invalid pick/player will go back to the pool and manager after will continue with the card punished manager played and not with the yellow color.
Quoting and changing inside the quote doesnt count as updating.
Anyone that doesnt update the list will be punished with an invalid pick and will have to pick from the yellow pool! Invalid pick/player will go back to the pool and manager after will continue with the card punished manager played and not with the yellow color.
Quoting and changing inside the quote doesnt count as updating.
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