Uno Draft: SF - willhse456 vs MJJ/syrian_scholes

Who will win the match based on all the players at their peaks?


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I know you're trying to pinpoint Gullit down to one position, but it's not that simple. He is good enough to provide width and come centrally when needed

This is what is confusing me. Either I am out numbered in midfield as Gullit is a key member or he is staying out wide and is coming in when needed like a normal winger in which case the midfield battle is even. You can't have it both way.

I disagree about Chumpitaz, whilst he's not in the top bracket of defenders, he definitely holds his own in an all time draft.

Does that change your point about restrictions?

What's your plan for dealing with Zidane roaming between the lines? Would one of your two central midfielders stick tight to him leaving space for others? Leaving him would be risky especially with his incredible vision and passing ability, he would be able to find Ronaldo with ease.

I think in terms of creativity my team has the edge. Zidane and Rivelino are the two main creators in both teams, with Zidane obviously having the edge there. In terms of support acts Schuster provides incisive passing from a slightly deeper starting position whilst Gullit is also more than capable.

Keep Rivelino quiet and then I don't really see where MJJ makes his chances, Jairzinho was quick and strong, but not one to pass through the lines, I'd be more than confident that Nilton would be able to look after him fairly comfortably.

Which pele do you think I am playing?

I have a real world example of Robson dealing with Schuster and Maradona with wilkins for support. Why do you think he will struggle here?
 
I've got no problem with Chumpitaz as a defender and I think he's quite comparable with Desailly in quality. The bigger concern for me is who he's up against due to the height difference. Batistuta is just literally the worst possible striker for him to face, and with Pele buzzing around him, it's an attack that I think will cause a lot of problems for what is actually an exceptional defense. It's a tough one to call as it's the only potential weakness I see in your side.

Having said that, there is definitely a gap in quality between Navas and Banks and I think you win the midfield battle.

I think I'd have a big problem if the opposition had fullbacks that bomb forward and provide genuine threat (Carlos, Cafu, Alves, Zanetti). Then I would probably have real issues stopping crosses from happening. I don't think their team is built for loads of crosses though.
 
I've got no problem with Chumpitaz as a defender and I think he's quite comparable with Desailly in quality. The bigger concern for me is who he's up against due to the height difference. Batistuta is just literally the worst possible striker for him to face, and with Pele buzzing around him, it's an attack that I think will cause a lot of problems for what is actually an exceptional defense. It's a tough one to call as it's the only potential weakness I see in your side.

Having said that, there is definitely a gap in quality between Navas and Banks and I think you win the midfield battle.

Does he? I would expect edwards to have his hands full with Pele and not contribute much if he has any chance to contain him. Robson and Breitner are the best midfielders on the pitch, followed by Schuster and Zidane won't participate much in the midfield battle.

@willhse456 you never answered? Which version of Schuster are you playing?
 
I think I'd have a big problem if the opposition had fullbacks that bomb forward and provide genuine threat (Carlos, Cafu, Alves, Zanetti). Then I would probably have real issues stopping crosses from happening. I don't think their team is built for loads of crosses though.



Ashley Cole- 67 assists in 683 matches
Zanetti-14 assists in 860 matches
 
I think I'd have a big problem if the opposition had fullbacks that bomb forward and provide genuine threat (Carlos, Cafu, Alves, Zanetti). Then I would probably have real issues stopping crosses from happening. I don't think their team is built for loads of crosses though.

Breitner tends to ping the ball over the top for the attackers plus his wingers will create a few chances as well.
 
Does he? I would expect edwards to have his hands full with Pele and not contribute much if he has any chance to contain him. Robson and Breitner are the best midfielders on the pitch, followed by Schuster and Zidane won't participate much in the midfield battle.

@willhse456 you never answered? Which version of Schuster are you playing?

Yes I'm playing the deeper version that Robson played one of the games of his life against, but at the same time he came 3rd in the Ballon D'Or, so he's obviously not a dud.
 
Does he? I would expect edwards to have his hands full with Pele and not contribute much if he has any chance to contain him. Robson and Breitner are the best midfielders on the pitch, followed by Schuster and Zidane won't participate much in the midfield battle.

I think Gullit gives him an edge in numbers plus Zidane and Schuster have both played in 2 man central midfields. Robson has a lot of work to do in your setup.
 
I think Gullit gives him an edge in numbers plus Zidane and Schuster have both played in 2 man central midfields. Robson has a lot of work to do in your setup.

If he has Gullit dropping into midfield regularly that means he has nobody on the right? So that is something which is not going to happen on a regular basis I think. I will also have Rivilino cutting in which will balance out through out the duration of the match.

Can you please give me examples of Zidane and Schuster playing in two-man central midfields?
 
Yes I'm playing the deeper version that Robson played one of the games of his life against, but at the same time he came 3rd in the Ballon D'Or, so he's obviously not a dud.

Agreed but in that case we have a clear real world example of Robson dominating Schuster with a GOAT number ten in maradona in attack.
 
You have to consider Banks and Navas as part of the defence, otherwise what's the point of having keepers? Might as well draft Jon from the pub if that's the case.
Oh, I always keep them in mind.
 
Gullit is perfectly capable of contributing to the ‘midfield battle’ and also providing some width on the right. Nothing weird about that and exactly the sort of contribution you would expect from a total footballer with his skill set.

Voted for @willhse456 mostly on the basis of his goalkeeper, Gordon Banks vs Navas is a chasm in proven quality and in a game as tight as this could well prove the difference. I also prefer his defensive line, think it’s nearly perfect, and agree with Enigma that Desailly’s peak came at defensive midfield as opposed to centre back.

I prefer MJJs midfield though personally and for me the Davids / Edwards tandem was the way to go here. Not sure Schuster offers as much as Davids in this match but maybe that’s personal preference.
 
Also, @willhse456 how are you stopping Pele here? Given that you think Rivelino is my main creator I would say not very well.

Obviously he'll be operating in space that Edwards is in, so a mixture of Edwards and Baresi sweeping will do the job.

I don't see anyone on the other team that will stop Zidane/Gullit though, will Cole really follow Gullit into midfield?

We can both say "how are you going to stop X GOAT and Y GOAT", reality is that it will be a really tight game and probably decided by a keeper error :D
 
Navas or Jon from the Pub

Concaf best Goalkeeper 2009
La liga best Goalkeeper 2013-14
Concaf player of the year 2014,2017
Fifa 3rd best goalkeeper in the world 2018
Fifa 4th best goalkeeper in the world 2015,2016,2017
UEFA champions league goalkeeper of the year 2017-2018

Chumpitaz

Yeah.

I am amazed at the level of disrespect shown to Navas here, he might not be as good as Banks but he is one of the best goalkeeper of all time and has been good enough for a side which has won the UCL 3 years in a row, nominated for the Golden Gloves in 2014 and is the only goalkeeper who has been voted man of the match thrice in one worldcup.
 
Obviously he'll be operating in space that Edwards is in, so a mixture of Edwards and Baresi sweeping will do the job.

I don't see anyone on the other team that will stop Zidane/Gullit though, will Cole really follow Gullit into midfield?

We can both say "how are you going to stop X GOAT and Y GOAT", reality is that it will be a really tight game and probably decided by a keeper error :D

You can't see anyone stopping Zidane despite the OP containing a video of Robson and Wilkins stopping Maradona and Schuster? Really?

So Gullit is mostly playing in midfield? Again, I am confused how much he is contributing to the midfield vs staying out wide.

Find me 10 errors from Navas. Go on. He is one of the best shot stoppers in the world, second only to Neuer. Whereas your defense has a clear weakness.
 
The combined defense point is interesting.

I'd take Baresi first. Desailly next.
It's a coin toss between Djalma and Thuram.

But the consensus seems to be to take Nilton ahead of Cole. This for me a complete non sense.

Not just because I feel Cole is really underrated here but I wonder how many people have watched and appreciated the defensive side of Nilton's game?

Cole is probably the best modern left back defensively who has stopped the best wingers of his era from Ronaldo to Robben to Messi.

While Nilton has struggled against the best of his era apparently.

I don't even want to get started on the attacking side of Cole's game as that is highly underrated here as well based on what I have read, but from a defensive stand point, I dont understand how anyone could choose Nilton ahead of Cole.
 


Wills gameplan is to rely on an error from this guy :lol:

Obviously he'll be operating in space that Edwards is in, so a mixture of Edwards and Baresi sweeping will do the job.

I don't see anyone on the other team that will stop Zidane/Gullit though, will Cole really follow Gullit into midfield?

We can both say "how are you going to stop X GOAT and Y GOAT", reality is that it will be a really tight game and probably decided by a keeper error :D

Leaving Chumpitaz alone vs Batistuta? Thats a brave move.
 
The combined defense point is interesting.

I'd take Baresi first. Desailly next.
It's a coin toss between Djalma and Thuram.

But the consensus seems to be to take Nilton ahead of Cole. This for me a complete non sense.

Not just because I feel Cole is really underrated here but I wonder how many people have watched and appreciated the defensive side of Nilton's game?

Cole is probably the best modern left back defensively who has stopped the best wingers of his era from Ronaldo to Robben to Messi.

While Nilton has struggled against the best of his era apparently.

I don't even want to get started on the attacking side of Cole's game as that is highly underrated here as well based on what I have read, but from a defensive stand point, I dont understand how anyone could choose Nilton ahead of Cole.

Honestly some of the arguments put forward here are so funny. From making Navas out to be some pub keeper to ignoring Cole's crossing (the man started out as a winger ffs) to Zidane and Ronaldo being more balanced than Pele and Batistuta.
 
Fair enough, I would say he is GOAT level at both DM and CB. Baresi retired in 1997, as per transfermarket Desailly faced Ronaldo 7 times while playing in central defense(no Baresi) and only conceded twice, one of which was a pen and the other Ba lost Ronaldo as pointed out in the OP. Does Chumpitaz have similar credentials?
Funnily enough IMO if Chumpitaz and Desailly swap places they will improve both defences against the forwards they are up to. They couldn't be more different and Chumpitaz with his pace and agility would be better fit to Fenomeno, whilst Desailly would be a natural fit against Batistuta.

Chumpitaz led an inferior Peru side to winning the Copa. Two times CONCACAF defender of the year winner (with someone like Figueroa at his peak as well during that time). Naturally he didn't win much, but you can argue the same on Jairzinho who had a much inferior club career compared to his heyday in 1970. h

Chumpitaz is generally the level below Figueroa and absolutely all time material. I'd be surprised if he isn't R6-R7 pick in all time draft with no restrictions.
 
Disappointed to not see Davids. Definitely would prefer him to Schuster in that side.

Otherwise both sides look spectacular at this stage.
 
WAS PELE THE MOST COMPLETE ATTACKER OF ALL TIME?

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How does one determine what makes a player complete? or in this instance an attacker complete?

In the overall sense, one would easily make reference to someone like Di Stefano who was able to participate in the defensive phase of the game in addition to the build up (midfield) phase and the attacking phase but when limiting it to the question of the most dangerous and complete operator in the final third.. it becomes tougher - which players could claim to have mastered the following arts or possess the following attributes:

  • Long-range shooting (curl, power)
  • Long-range passing (spreading play, crossing)
  • Press resistance/possession play under pressure (decision-making)
  • Heading
  • Set-Pieces
  • Controlling the build up (control of tempo)
  • Killer passes in the final third
  • Finishing (bicycle kicks, lobs, volleys, chips, megs, standard)
  • Dribbling (body feints, tricks)
  • First touch/Hold up play (flick ons, chest, one touch play)
  • Movement off the ball/Timing of runs
  • Pace, Power and Agility
  • Ambidextrous

Shortlist for most complete attacker:

  1. Messi
  2. C. Ronaldo
  3. R9
  4. Cruyff
  5. Pele
  6. Van Basten
  7. Di Stefano
  8. Zico
  9. Maradona
  10. Puskas
  11. Eusebio
So a rough shortlist of some very complete forwards (included Zico, because on closer inspection - seems to be an incredibly complete player who was not your typical 10 but a super productive forward in equal measure). Now grading these players 1-10 at each attribute is a very subjective exercise, so to avoid that.. I will just discuss if certain players were able/unable to demonstrate mastery of a particular ability and compare how many areas of attack this list of footballers could master.

Long-range shooting

Now, alot of players on that list have obviously scored a range of long-distance goals but I would argue R9, Cruyff, Van Basten can instantly be ruled out as evidence of their long-range prowess isn't as pronounced as the others. Some like Zico who clearly had great set piece ability and could score from range tended to choose not to and majority of his goals result from dribbles into box/being a fox in the box.. so for me from open play Eusebio, Messi stand out.. with the former having a cannon of shot off either foot and Cristiano is also a great threat from range (though his efficiency is questionable). Pele for me is right up there, and I'd have him just behind Messi and alongside Eusebio. Lets not forget his attempt from the halfway line too.





Long-range passing (spreading play,crossing)

An area for me where Pele falls short. His style of play just didn't incorporate long range passing/crossing, as he preferred shorter passes for quick-fired combination play. In this category, Messi, Maradona, Zico reign supreme though crossing wise - for the outside of the foot, I'd probably give it to Cruyff and CR7 is underrated in this respect too.

Press resistance/possession play under pressure (decision-making)

Whilst you'd expect all of these footballers to be A* at this, for me R9, CR7 and Eusebio fall slightly short here. Sort of footballers who were prone to losing the ball under pressure due to the high octane nature of their game and the sheer directness of their play. The rest are as gold standard as it gets, supremely intelligent footballers under pressure.

Heading

Cristiano, Van Basten are real stand outs from this list and everyone else falls short (though Messi makes a decent fist of it to be fair) but Pele absolutely matches them in this regard and is recognised as one of the GOAT headers in the game, some brazillians would argue the greatest leap ever.







Set-Pieces

Now Zico stands out as probably the best of all time, but in terms of ruling players out.. R9, Van basten can certainly be as they're not renowned for free-kick brilliance. Pele is criminally underrated for his set-piece prowess. He is 5th on all time list of set-pieces scored (70+ free-kicks scored during his career) Whilst he didn't possess the sublime grace of a Zico in this regard, he was a threat from a variety of ranges due to his sheer power and accuracy.. mastering the lace knuckleball technique 50 years ago..but also capable of the more deft 'falling-leaf' technique from closer range too.



Controlling the build up (control of tempo)

Whilst I wouldn't place Pele at the top of the list in this regard alongside the likes of Maradona/Di Stefano/Cruyff, he definitely had the ability to control a tempo of a game and was a ball-magnet. He had a playmakers mindset in the final third, in contrast to CR7, R9 and knew when to accelerate or slow a game down in the final third which kept opponents guessing as to when he'd go for the kill.




Killer passes in the final third

Pele was an absolute master in this regard.. Jairzinho goal in 1970 as well as Carlos Alberto goal in the final. Two iconic assists in the same tournament which have stood the test of time and they were just the tip of the iceberg. Once again the same culprits probably come up short, CR7 for example is very average IMO when it comes to killer passes. Whilst this is a highly contested category, for me Pele has the perfect blend of insane imagination, flair technique and efficiency of execution to reign supreme in this category.



Finishing (bicycle kicks, lobs, volleys, chips, megs, standard)



Now that is just one aspect of finishing, but it is fair to say with a reputed 1000 goals to his name.. Pele has to go down as one of if not the most versatile finisher of all time. I'd have him alongside Zico, Van Basten and Messi as my favourite finishers in that list of players.. any situation in the box, they have all the tricks in the locker to make the ball land in the back of the net.. But the first two and Pele - could also do it with either foot effortlessly.

Dribbling (body feints, tricks)

In football you tend to get guys who either excel at the classical lace dribbling, with slaloming runs and use of body swerves to weave through opponents or you get guys who are the 5* skill masters and like to embarrass and confuse opponents with their street skills. Very rarely do you find a guy who possesses a blend of both.. Dinho in his prime perhaps, Maradona to an extent but for me Pele in his prime combined all the best attributes you want as a dribbler.. both simple, yet superfluous and entertaining in equal measure. He could body swerve with the best, yet he was a pioneer in bringing street skills.. that Brazilian magic to the big stage.



First touch/Hold up play (flick ons, chest, one touch play)

Now this is where guys like Cruyff, Pele, Eusebio and Di Stefano distinguish themselves from Messi, Maradona and Zico. They could hold the ball up as good as your best strikers, and play with a man up behind them as well as win tough physical encounters by outmuscling opponents not just out-thinking them. For example, the way Messi regularly got snuffed out by sides like Chelsea.. I can't see that happening to Pele, who eventually proved he could dominate a physical defensive side for example Italy in 1970. His first touch was simply sublime and allied to his athleticism made him virtually unstoppable at times.



Movement off the ball/Timing of runs

We have recently seen from CR7 just how important this attribute is. He is a GOAT footballer in this regard. For me Pele's performances in the 1970 World Cup were reminiscent of recent Cristiano performances, in that he knew his body wasn't the powerhouse it once was but through his sheer ability to read the attacking third, and the ability to time runs and pick up space.. he was an incredible goal threat. The way he times this run and makes the goalkeeper look silly.. iconic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4c

Pace, Power and Agility

The original Ronaldo is probably the greatest force of nature the game has ever seen, and the two portuguese powerhouses Ronaldo and Eusebio were also fine physical specimens.. but Pele is right up there and IMO with his superior sense of balance/agility, arguably eclipses all of them as the perfect footballing specimen from a physical perspective. That is what gave him that God-like quality which transcends the likes of Messi/Maradona.. they seem like demi-gods, the most gifted humans ever due to their diminutive stature and mortal nature, whereas Pele is truly divine in that sense. He just seems to have it all.



Ambidextrous

Messi, Maradona, Puskas and probably Cruyff (who had a penchant for preferring the outside of the foot) probably fall short when compared to the others in this regard. Pele dare I say it, is arguably one of the most ambidextrous player in history, he has zero hesitation in unleashing shots with his weaker foot (bit like Cristiano) which is incredible considering he's from the 60's. He was like Bobby Charlton in this respect and even in his other videos, he doesn't hesitate to play killer passes with the weaker foot either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGiLXL0RmRY

SUMMARY

I'd say long range passing aside, Pele pretty much nails every other aspect of being an elite attacker. I wish I'd seen more of Di Stefano in his physical prime to see if he can also be a real competitor, I'd say Messi is an outstanding challenger despite his physical deficiencies and lack of a top tier right foot but O Rei do Futebol is truly the indisputed king for me.

Credit @Raees
 
Also, @willhse456 how are you stopping Pele here? Given that you think Rivelino is my main creator I would say not very well.
Yeah, the question how the opposition will handle Pele is why I'm sitting on the fence for this one.

Like both set ups mind, not much to criticize and could see both set ups working pretty well.

I prefer MJJs midfield though personally and for me the Davids / Edwards tandem was the way to go here. Not sure Schuster offers as much as Davids in this match but maybe that’s personal preference.

I agree. Although I can understand the reasoning putting young Schuster in RCM role, Davids behind Zidane is natural and proven fit.
 
In all the talk about Navas, Desailly, Gullit I feel like one person is being completely overlooked. O Rei, the king of football. He will have enough time here to completely stamp his authority on the game from a playmaking perspective (is playing in the position best suited for him) and will be another weapon against the likes of chumpitaz.

http://otaviopinto.com/index.php/2016/07/14/pele-10-formation/
 
Yeah, the question how the opposition will handle Pele is why I'm sitting on the fence for this one.

Like both set ups mind, not much to criticize and could see both set ups working pretty well.



I agree. Although I can understand the reasoning putting young Schuster in RCM role, Davids behind Zidane is natural and proven fit.

Its an older deep lying Schuster btw.

Funnily enough IMO if Chumpitaz and Desailly swap places they will improve both defences against the forwards they are up to. They couldn't be more different and Chumpitaz with his pace and agility would be better fit to Fenomeno, whilst Desailly would be a natural fit against Batistuta.

Chumpitaz led an inferior Peru side to winning the Copa. Two times CONCACAF defender of the year winner (with someone like Figueroa at his peak as well during that time). Naturally he didn't win much, but you can argue the same on Jairzinho who had a much inferior club career compared to his heyday in 1970. h

Chumpitaz is generally the level below Figueroa and absolutely all time material. I'd be surprised if he isn't R6-R7 pick in all time draft with no restrictions.

Why would I swap a man who has an excellent real world record against Ronaldo for a man who might be a good hypothetical match? 1 open goal in 7 matches is amazing with the likes of costacurta for partners.
 
Disappointed to not see Davids. Definitely would prefer him to Schuster in that side.

Otherwise both sides look spectacular at this stage.

I for one like this setup better. Everyone in the right zones. Davids would have been surplus to requirements and an odd fit IMO. Sounds like Schuster is getting a bit underrated.

With Edwards behind, I'd rather take a playmaker than a B2B engine.
 
Its an older deep lying Schuster btw.
Haven't seen it so far in the thread, might have missed it tho? Makes no sense to use the DLP Schuster in this game, considering you have Davids on the bench who dovetails well with Zidane and is more suited to a B2B role - that is more needed in this game.

Why would I swap a man who has an excellent real world record against Ronaldo for a man who might be a good hypothetical match? 1 open goal in 7 matches is amazing with the likes of costacurta for partners.
Stylistically Chumpitaz is the better fit to Fenomeno. You can't expect Fenomeno to score 40-50 goals per season in the 90's, especially with that shite Inter squad.

It wasn't a man marking mission either which makes the comparison to be taken with a pinch of salt.
 
From an interview with Baresi.

[FFT: So who would you pick as the best backline then?] A different group: Juve's line-up of the early '80s. [Antonio] Cabrini, [Claudio] Gentile, [Gaetano] Scirea. They had a completely different style and all won the World Cup with Italy in 1982.
 
Disappointed to not see Davids. Definitely would prefer him to Schuster in that side.

Otherwise both sides look spectacular at this stage.

I prefer this side stylistically, gives Gullit and Zidane space to roam in their favourite zones. I also think their power and strength contributes a lot in midfield and is being slightly overlooked.
 
Haven't seen it so far in the thread, might have missed it tho? Makes no sense to use the DLP Schuster in this game, considering you have Davids on the bench who dovetails well with Zidane and is more suited to a B2B role - that is more needed in this game.


Stylistically Chumpitaz is the better fit to Fenomeno. You can't expect Fenomeno to score 40-50 goals per season in the 90's, especially with that shite Inter squad.

It wasn't a man marking mission either which makes the comparison to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Where did that come from? They faced each other 7 times and he scored once. What does that have to do with the 90s or how much I expect him to score over a season? The fact that its not a man marking mission makes it more impressive.

Yes I'm playing the deeper version that Robson played one of the games of his life against, but at the same time he came 3rd in the Ballon D'Or, so he's obviously not a dud.
 
Both on and off the pitch, he was a quiet, thoughtful leader who marshalled the back line for his club and his country with a colossal, yet almost silent, authority throughout a record-breaking career. As a defender, he always relied on subtlety rather than muscle, but he was equally adept at venturing forward and had the passing ability and drive of a pure midfielder, as well as an eye for goal that saw him find the back of the net 24 times during his 377-game club career with the Bianconeri.

It is truly amazing to think that in all that time, Scirea never received a red card, not a bad disciplinary record for someone who operated as the penultimate bolt in the team.

Upon his retirement from the international game in 1986, France Footballmagazine described him as "better than Pele, [Johan] Cruyff and [Alfredo] Di Stefano".
 
Where did that come from? They faced each other 7 times and he scored once. What does that have to do with the 90s or how much I expect him to score over a season? The fact that its not a man marking mission makes it more impressive.
He scored 2 times, but again it has many variables so these h2h's are rarely that indicative in hypothetical match ups.

Batistita played against Sensini 18 times and scored only 4 goals. Does that mean that he'll shut him down in a draft game?



This is Fenomeno vs Milan home and away. It isn't just the goals. Look at 1:27 and onwards - he goes on a run engaging 3 defenders that results in a goal. In a game that he "only" scored a peno.
 
He scored 2 times, but again it has many variables so these h2h's are rarely that indicative in hypothetical match ups.

Batistita played against Sensini 18 times and scored only 4 goals. Does that mean that he'll shut him down in a draft game?



This is Fenomeno vs Milan home and away. It isn't just the goals. Look at 1:27 and onwards - he goes on a run engaging 3 defenders that results in a goal. In a game that he "only" scored a peno.


One was a penalty hence he only scored once from open play. Okay, you can add an assist to it. One goal and one assists in 7 matches, I will still take that.

If somebody has sensini in a draft match and has him up against Batistuta then yes it absolutely should be taken into account. You can't ignore real world examples for hypotheticals ones. If somebody picks park to do a man marking job on pirlo, would you be like no we have to ignore that he did this in real life?
 
I prefer this side stylistically, gives Gullit and Zidane space to roam in their favourite zones. I also think their power and strength contributes a lot in midfield and is being slightly overlooked.

Disagree personally - think Davids is the cleaner fit and his dynamism dovetails well with the playmaking from Zidane. I don’t think Schuster gives Zidane anymore space or a better platform than Davids does either. If anything I think he has a slightly bigger overlap, whereas the raw physicality, mobility and engine of Davids is naturally complementary.

On the defence though I disagree with the poster above and three of my backline would come from your team - Nilton, Baresi and Thuram would be my first choices, then probably Desailly as the stopper but agree with Enigma that there’s not much between him and Chumpitaz.
 
One was a penalty hence he only scored once from open play. Okay, you can add an assist to it. One goal and one assists in 7 matches, I will still take that.

If somebody has sensini in a draft match and has him up against Batistuta then yes it absolutely should be taken into account. You can't ignore real world examples for hypotheticals ones. If somebody picks park to do a man marking job on pirlo, would you be like no we have to ignore that he did this in real life?
It's also valid vice versa as well since Batistuta scored only in 1 game against semi retired Baresi out of 7 appearances.

Anyway @Enigma_87 lets agree to disagree and focus on whats really important. Pele running this game or if he gets bored just heading one over Chumpitaz.

Yeah I agree to disagree. Don't put much weight in those numbers to be honest, but Pele and Batistuta in the air and in the box against Chumpitaz and Baresi is indeed worrisome.

Question is that you create the delivery for them and get those chances.

Have to be honest - initially I thought Will had this one in the bag and had the better team, but yours looks more able to do the damage and you have the best player on the pitch in Pele.
 
Disagree personally - think Davids is the cleaner fit and his dynamism dovetails well with the playmaking from Zidane. I don’t think Schuster gives Zidane anymore space or a better platform than Davids does either.

For me it's more of case of having alternate playmaking options if Zidane has a bad game or is marked out. Against a team without a dedicated DM, I'd have 2 playmakers instead of a B2B who can be nullified with a 2 B2B pair.

Both options are pretty good but Schuster does open up more channels in this game for me than an overcrowded left side of Stoichkov Zidane Davids