Well to stretch the open-heart-surgery analogy, it's a bit like we have had the successful procedure but not implemented the necessary lifestyle changes post-operation.
United's 'Open Heart Surgery' under Ten Hag
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It was an excellent window and the squad is the best it's looked in a long while. There is still work to do over the next window or two though.
Players we should be looking to move on:
Bayindir, Malacia, Lindelof, Eriksen and Antony. Perhaps Maguire as well.
Key positions to address:
Keeper - either good backup or competition for Onana.
Left back - someone who can replace Shaw in the short term and compete with Amass in the long term.
A ball playing deep midfielder - I'd like Palacios from Leverkusen but there are other options as well.
A left sided attacker - Nico Williams would be the dream but we could also benefit from a creative wide player like Mitoma.
Depending on how Hojlund and Zirkzee go this season, we may also need to look at bringing in an elite goalscorer.
If Maguire moves on, we will need to look at a left sided CB. Branthwaite being the most attractive option.
Players we should be looking to move on:
Bayindir, Malacia, Lindelof, Eriksen and Antony. Perhaps Maguire as well.
Key positions to address:
Keeper - either good backup or competition for Onana.
Left back - someone who can replace Shaw in the short term and compete with Amass in the long term.
A ball playing deep midfielder - I'd like Palacios from Leverkusen but there are other options as well.
A left sided attacker - Nico Williams would be the dream but we could also benefit from a creative wide player like Mitoma.
Depending on how Hojlund and Zirkzee go this season, we may also need to look at bringing in an elite goalscorer.
If Maguire moves on, we will need to look at a left sided CB. Branthwaite being the most attractive option.
The first surgery on the heart itself was performed by Axel Cappelen on 4 September 1895 at Rikshospitalet in Kristiania, now Oslo. Cappelen ligated a bleeding coronary artery in a 24-year-old man who had been stabbed in the left axilla and was in deep shock upon arrival. Access was through a left thoracotomy.
The squad is looking young and healthy but without any star quality. Better to play the long game and try and allow some of our young players to become top players and wait for the right targets. We have to play the long game now. We’re going to struggle to score in the short term but victories like last season’s FA Cup will push this squad on.
1-Some of the players brought are just replacements and not upgrades
2- We have not full cleared out our players maybe four of them so far
3- we have to clear upto 6 -7 players next season and replace them with similar but quality numbers.
Till then it is better to grounded and not be delusional excepting a high result. The core of the team has not changed yet. TOP 4 or less.
2- We have not full cleared out our players maybe four of them so far
3- we have to clear upto 6 -7 players next season and replace them with similar but quality numbers.
Till then it is better to grounded and not be delusional excepting a high result. The core of the team has not changed yet. TOP 4 or less.
I'm very excited about the departures. Sancho gone, Greenwood drama is over, AWB who I always saw as a very limited player finally replaced and SMT who I loved as a person never really felt like the midfielder we needed.
Only time will tell how our new players will turn out but I'm happy with how this summer went. Now that the whole front office revamp is complete, one thing I would like to see is them getting deals done earlier for next season. Obviously the Euro's didn't help this year but I would like to see our new players be here for preseason instead of sitting on the bench "adjusting and getting fit".
Only time will tell how our new players will turn out but I'm happy with how this summer went. Now that the whole front office revamp is complete, one thing I would like to see is them getting deals done earlier for next season. Obviously the Euro's didn't help this year but I would like to see our new players be here for preseason instead of sitting on the bench "adjusting and getting fit".
Absolutely agree. It feels less like a manager clear out and more like Ineos taking charge and saying these guys aren't going to make it, regardless of who the manager which is a very good sign. They seem to have a long term strategy which should be the norm but feels like a breath of fresh air.
We've made a lot of progress strengthening the squad but we need to see substantial improvement in actual performances on the pitch. We scraped by Fulham and got punked by Brighton, but hopefully a smashing win over Liverpool will be the dawn of the new era we've been waiting for since the Great Man stepped down.
There has been some positive change off the pitch but very little on it. Until that starts to change there's not much substance in all this talk of open heart surgery.
We've won a couple of domestic cups but we've made barely any progress as a football team in the last two years.
We've won a couple of domestic cups but we've made barely any progress as a football team in the last two years.
A good first step and the intent to get rid of so many players is something club has desperately needed for years.
It’s a huge issue that we are spending something like a million a week in wages on Casemiro, Rashford, Mount and Antony and only Rashford (somehow) will be a starter when everyone is fit. Those are going to be very difficult and potentially expensive situations to resolve though.
The squad looks better balanced and hopefully less injury prone than last season. There is a clear lack of real standout talent though so need a combination of improvement from younger players and to bring some more in. That’s to be expected and the new structure now have the time and hopefully more financial flexibility to ensure that we strengthen in January and next summer.
Huge questions over the manager, still think he should have gone last summer, hope I’m wrong but can’t see him getting best out of what he has and this will inevitably be his last season.
It’s a huge issue that we are spending something like a million a week in wages on Casemiro, Rashford, Mount and Antony and only Rashford (somehow) will be a starter when everyone is fit. Those are going to be very difficult and potentially expensive situations to resolve though.
The squad looks better balanced and hopefully less injury prone than last season. There is a clear lack of real standout talent though so need a combination of improvement from younger players and to bring some more in. That’s to be expected and the new structure now have the time and hopefully more financial flexibility to ensure that we strengthen in January and next summer.
Huge questions over the manager, still think he should have gone last summer, hope I’m wrong but can’t see him getting best out of what he has and this will inevitably be his last season.
If we discount the failed LvG experiment, this is pretty much true. It's not going to change any time soon, either. Someone mentioned that we sign/promote replacements instead of upgrades which may tell us a thing or two about the way this club understands football. The real revolution will happen first in the profiles we're prioritising, then the drawing board experiments will become more meaningful.
Completely agree. I think the profiles we are targeting is starting to change with the new bosses. The gameplan won't change till Ten Hag is fired.
Look how far that has taken us. 700m spent and far worse than we were 3-4 years ago.
The really worrying thing is how few options we have got on the bench after such a massive outlay! Scary lack of depth in midfield too
How good do you think these players are that I've labelled "supposedly"? The fact of the matter is we've options in every position, most of which signed by this manager or believed to be good players anyway. It's not my fault if he can't get a tune out of players who have shown they can do it.
Everyone has options in every position. Lindelof was, and probably will be, an option at left back. The fact that straight after that game you're arguing that the likes of Casemiro are good options is, frankly, laughable. Doubly so when we have to bring on an academy player for his first start when he shit the bed and we had a bench with two goalkeepers on it.
And the club signs players. Would you appreciate some links to shine a light on the process? I won't be giving them tonight because I've expended my effort for the evening, and I'm running out of what it would be acceptable to spend on you. Rant at someone else. Or don't. I don't care.
How did we let this happen?
I also can't really be bothered to respond to you either. All I'll say is that we've assembled a squad with cover across the board, all signings either Ten Hag wanted, or players who have done well. Others are merely backup. Our backup to the backup, such is our depth in areas. This is a good squad. A better coach would have people realising that. I watch teams with a lot less talent play much better football than us. We've got an embarrassment of riches compared to them in terms of our squad.
Mount is such a head scratcher
We can call it like open heart surgery but EtH is Mr. Bean from the movie in USA.