United successfully pass PSR

I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them. PSR is in nature....anti-competitive, i'm amazed the big PL clubs haven't legally challenged it. Especially the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

If an owner passed the Fit and Proper Test before acquiring a club, that should be enough to show they are of right competence to spend within their means surely!?
I am expecting a Bosman type appeal from a player at some point.
 
Didnt we add a year to Ten Hags contract a couple of months before firing him? That would add to the cost of parting ways with him I'd assume.

Adding another year to the same contract, so whatever his buy out was in his original contract would have remained.
 
The fact that this news has been out for hours and we still haven't signed a top class striker is a bit of a piss take. No ambition.
 
I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them. PSR is in nature....anti-competitive, i'm amazed the big PL clubs haven't legally challenged it. Especially the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

If an owner passed the Fit and Proper Test before acquiring a club, that should be enough to show they are of right competence to spend within their means surely!?

So if one owner puts £5 billion into a football club for signings - and that club buys 20 of the best players in the world at £100-200 million a player- would you still feel the same way ? Because that is what would happen - sooner or later.
 
So if one owner puts £5 billion into a football club for signings - and that club buys 20 of the best players in the world at £100-200 million a player- would you still feel the same way ? Because that is what would happen - sooner or later.
Exactly. It’s not perfect but it offers some protection
 
Im pretty sure this will have no bearing on whether or not we can spend in the current transfer window as this PSR check was for the period up to June 2024 so wont have included the 250-300m wasted by keeping and then firing Eth and his staff or the cost of hiring Ruben Amorim and his staff.

£250-300m? How do you figure that one out? :lol: How many employees do you think we have?
 
I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them.

It very much isn't just on them though, is it? The whole point is to prevent them destroying a whole.club that is profoundly meaningful for hundreds of thousands, even millions of people. If Ratcliffe and the Glazers obliterated our club to the point it can't carry on I, for one, would not be thinking "Oh well, good job this is all on them".

PSR is in nature....anti-competitive,

If you mean it's against football just being a competition of wealth, then yes - it is currently inhibiting the ability of the Saudi state to turn the league into a competition over who has the most wealth vs. other Middle East oil tyrannies. Maybe some people find this sad but I am not one of them.

It's very far from perfect but PSR does at least keep the spending in PL in touch with "performance" in some third order type way.
 
I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them. PSR is in nature....anti-competitive, i'm amazed the big PL clubs haven't legally challenged it. Especially the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

If an owner passed the Fit and Proper Test before acquiring a club, that should be enough to show they are of right competence to spend within their means surely!?
That's on the owners? The rules are there to protect the clubs from owners. You only need to watch the Swansea docuseries to see what a lift to a club can do for a community.

Would be much better if there was no such thing as owners.
 
That's on the owners? The rules are there to protect the clubs from owners. You only need to watch the Swansea docuseries to see what a lift to a club can do for a community.

Would be much better if there was no such thing as owners.

Put it better than me.
 
Incoming article tomorrow in the Daily Mail saying we've been using Carrington for illegal cock fighting nights. Can't be knocking Arsenal out the cup, scoring at Anfield and passing PSR without something negative popping up. We're losing to Saints aren't we.
 
I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them. PSR is in nature....anti-competitive, i'm amazed the big PL clubs haven't legally challenged it. Especially the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

If an owner passed the Fit and Proper Test before acquiring a club, that should be enough to show they are of right competence to spend within their means surely!?

No it's actually on the clubs, that's how lots of clubs have nearly gone out of business and a few have.

That's literally the reason FFP/PSR exists.
 
We also hired a few new staff for him who all had to be paid off only a few months in to their contracts and we let him spend another 200m+ on new players some of which a different manager wouldnt have signed.
And some fans were wondering why we fired the sporting director
 
So how big will our summer warchest be then? 400m?
We're about 2 months away from 'United only have £50m to spend before sales' headlines. Then proceeding to spend significantly more.
 
Adding another year to the same contract, so whatever his buy out was in his original contract would have remained.
That's very unlikely. He got extended by 12 months and had secured those extra wages by contract.
 
I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them. PSR is in nature....anti-competitive, i'm amazed the big PL clubs haven't legally challenged it. Especially the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

If an owner passed the Fit and Proper Test before acquiring a club, that should be enough to show they are of right competence to spend within their means surely!?

Such a moronic take. You do realise clubs are Limited companies? So when an owner spends a fortune, which they may not actually have, if it doesn’t work out the club is left with the debt and owner can just walk away.

That was the whole reason why PSR was introduced. And on the flip stop club likes City, Chelsea and Newcastle outspending everyone by a long distance.

The rules aren’t perfect but I’m glad they’re in place. It would be pointless watching the game whilst Newcastle won the quadruple every season.
 
Such a moronic take. You do realise clubs are Limited companies? So when an owner spends a fortune, which they may not actually have, if it doesn’t work out the club is left with the debt and owner can just walk away.

That was the whole reason why PSR was introduced. And on the flip stop club likes City, Chelsea and Newcastle outspending everyone by a long distance.

The rules aren’t perfect but I’m glad they’re in place. It would be pointless watching the game whilst Newcastle won the quadruple every season.
Exactly this. Just looked at what happened to Leeds and Portsmouth in recent times. Most football clubs are already so badly financially mismanaged that if they were 'normal businesses', they would have gone to the wall years ago. If a sugar daddy is allowed to spend billions willy nilly on a pet project /ego trip and then they decide they're now bored and walk away, that club will probably disappear. It's happened, on a lesser scale, to plenty of lower league clubs.
 
So if one owner puts £5 billion into a football club for signings - and that club buys 20 of the best players in the world at £100-200 million a player- would you still feel the same way ? Because that is what would happen - sooner or later.
Didn't City more or less already do this?
 
I personally think PSR is a load of rubbish, clubs should be able to spend what they want.....if idiot owners spend what they don't have then that's on them. PSR is in nature....anti-competitive, i'm amazed the big PL clubs haven't legally challenged it. Especially the likes of City, Chelsea and Newcastle.

If an owner passed the Fit and Proper Test before acquiring a club, that should be enough to show they are of right competence to spend within their means surely!?
You’d be ok with Newcastle / City dominating for the foreseeable ?
 
This was for the 2023-2024 season.

"Manchester City and Manchester United both met the Premier League's financial guidelines for the 2023/24"

We need to worry about 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 (which will determine the spending in the summer)
 
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ews/man-city-manchester-united-learn-30776820

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-psr-charges-live-34474494.amp

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2000141/Man-Utd-Premier-League-clubs-PSR-charges/amp

That’s a massive relief as I genuinely worried about where we were financially and how it would impact Amorim in his job as needs players to come in and fit his system, I won’t pretend to fully understand PSR but does this mean we can now spend in January as long as we get rid of the deadwood in the summer ?
The issue is 2024/25 and given our league position this year with no European football next year I’d also say 2025/26 will be rocky.
 
Typical United that now we have a top manager for once we are broke whereas we burned money before as if tuere is no tomorrow