United look at other targets (Mbappe & Lewa) as Griezmann dropped in priority

Of course. Sorry. No players have ever left anywhere after signing a new contract.
I'd bet you a lot of money that Lewandowski is not moving within the next few years. He also likes playing CL. ;-)
 
Finally. Can't believe people have been confident we were signing him. Get Dolberg or someone more "mouldable". Let the galacticos do all the power purchasing.

Its all mere speculation. If Griezmann wants to follow in his idol Beckham's (and Giggs may I add) footsteps he'll push for a move.
 
Ah, the infamous tax myth. Spain tax laws were changed so any amount paid by the club on behalf of the player towards buyout wouldn't count as players 'income' and therefore it wouldn't attract chargeability on that sum. It would be seen as capital gain which can be written off as a loss when the player files ITR next FY.

Guess I was out of the loop. Cheers.
 
Ah, the infamous tax myth. Spain tax laws were changed so any amount paid by the club on behalf of the player towards buyout wouldn't count as players 'income' and therefore it wouldn't attract chargeability on that sum. It would be seen as capital gain which can be written off as a loss when the player files ITR next FY.

Is it a buyout clause or a release clause. Because both are different, buyout would mean the situation you are talking about but a release clause will be buying club directly paying the clause with further taxes such as vat which i think are as high as 25-30%. I ask this as ronaldo, messi, bale etc have release clauses not buyout clauses.
 
Who writes this shit? As much as I would love it there's not a chance we sign Lewandowski. Bayern have no reason to sell and I doubt he would want to take such a big step down in his peak.
 
Who writes this shit? As much as I would love it there's not a chance we sign Lewandowski. Bayern have no reason to sell and I doubt he would want to take such a big step down in his peak.
Exactly. It's like every time we're being linked with Neymar
 
Is it a buyout clause or a release clause. Because both are different, buyout would mean the situation you are talking about but a release clause will be buying club directly paying the clause with further taxes such as vat which i think are as high as 25-30%. I ask this as ronaldo, messi, bale etc have release clauses not buyout clauses.
Buyout and release clause are the same thing, and clubs have to pay VAT on all transfers, but they make that money back anyways.
 
I see that they're reporting this story in the Independent. Whether it's bullshit or not I wouldn't have a clue but they also suggest that, in another article, that Arsenal could go for him to replace Sanchez, so why would it be easier for them to sign Griezman than for us.
 
Lewa would've been a perfect signing, of course, but he just signed a contract until 2021, Bayern won't sell him for less than what, 150? 200 millions? And there is no reason why Lewa would choose us instead of Bayern (apart from money, probably, but he's getting enough where he is). Another article to fill the informational vacuum.
 
Lewa would've been a perfect signing, of course, but he just signed a contract until 2021, Bayern won't sell him for less than what, 150? 200 millions? And there is no reason why Lewa would choose us instead of Bayern (apart from money, probably, but he's getting enough where he is). Another article to fill the informational vacuum.
everything else is redundant
 
Jouranlists making up shit, what a surprise.

Griezmann is and will be our No.1 priority this summer, no doubt about it. Only scenario where we might look for other alternatives would be where Zlatan doesn't renew and Jose wants a more out and out striker rather than a SS.

Zlatan doesn't seem like a guy who'd be ok to share the main guy role, if we'd sign someone like Lewa,Aubameyang, Icardi or Belotti for a huge sums, it would definitely mean benching either one of Ibra or the new guy for large parts. This is why Griezmann makes even more sense, the guy can play as SS or No.10, even RW till Zlatan leaves and take the CF spot then.

Griezmann, Silva, a DM, a RB and we are sorted. Unless Jose is not convinced by Shaw that is, if so a LB too.
 
Griezmann may or may not come depending on our ability to offer Champions League football. And it looks like we keep shooting ourselves in the foot with below average performances like the one this past weekend. Playing Pogba in a midfield 2 is a great idea. If you've spent 90 odd million on a player, you have to play him in his best position and his best chance to create magic. And from his time at Juve, we all know by now that he plays his best when he's on the left side of a midfield 3. Pogba is an attacking player and this brings me to the part of having Griezmann in the team. If Sanchez & Aguero can lead the line, so can Griezmann. We need to develop our team to be quick on the counter attack and I don't think Zlatan provides us that. I see a lot of similarities in the team with the (Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo & Rooney) team. Van Nistelrooy ala Zlatan scored a lot of goals for us but Fergie realized that we had to be a lot quicker on the counter which is why RVN for sold. Zlatan has been great but we need to be quicker. Pogba isn't the quickest and we've got quick wingers but then we don't have people on the end of our crosses most times. My suggestion would be 4-3-3 (with our midfield three (Carrick replacement, Herrera & Pogba), front three (Martial, Mkhitaryan & Griezmann). Now a front three of them are similar in pace to (Ronaldo, Rooney & Tevez). What do you guys think?

Whether or not we agree won't matter, Jose ain't going to drop Ibra from the squad for a midget forward. If he comes he'll most likely play behind the striker


I've not seen much of Mbappe but he's obviously performed exceptionally well this season for Monaco (but then again who hasn't... lol). Just based off the youtube videos, he looks like a fantastic prospect but he plays in the same position as Martial. How does he rate (out of 10) in terms of skill, talent and his possible PL adaptability in-comparison with Martial? Can they both coexist in the same team? Can Mbappe lead the line despite being 5'10?

He is more talented than Martial but not quite as talented as Dembele imo. Also yes they could, as both are adept at playing out wide or as a ST
 
Is it a buyout clause or a release clause. Because both are different, buyout would mean the situation you are talking about but a release clause will be buying club directly paying the clause with further taxes such as vat which i think are as high as 25-30%. I ask this as ronaldo, messi, bale etc have release clauses not buyout clauses.

The clubs that used the Spanish system in the past didn't actually end up paying tax (nor did the player) - but the mechanism they used wasn't tested in tax court, nor could they get a definitive ruling on its legality from the tax office. Hence very high legal fees, and still a potentially massive risk for the buying club. The tax office have now clarified the position, to allow the deals to be done in a safe, standard, tax-free way.

The issues now are about the player's specific contract themselves, not the taxes. The headline figure might be 100 million, but there may be payments to the training club, the agents, the player's old club, inside/outside that fee. Plus when you use the clause, you pay cash, not in installments which is the way most transfers are done.

The biggest issue of course is always the same. Does the player want to actually move to you. If they aren't keen, or if you have any doubts about them, then the whole thing is irrelevant.
 
I'd rather Ibra moved on than for us to spend money on buying players that suit a player who'll only be here one more season tops.
And me. That would be stupid building a team around a 36 year old. Imagine they did that then early September he broke his leg or something
 
Nonsense article from the ever so reputable Sun newspaper.

Griezmann is by no means a cert but there's absolutely no way we're getting Lewandowski. Mbappe could be gettable but he will cost over £40m and he is nowhere near ready to lead the line for Utd.
 
The headline figure might be 100 million, but there may be payments to the training club, the agents, the player's old club, inside/outside that fee.
This is true of every transfer. The only issue, if any, would be the cash payment
 
In what universe is Lewandowski easier to sign than Griezmann? :lol:

In this world....

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Jose himself said we won't be chasing impossible deals and has a definite transfer plan for the summer. That'll all you need to know Delaney's talking shit.