United’s next manager

Doesnt matter who the manager is if we dont sufficiently improve the squad and get ahead of the game rather then playing catch up every year and making the right signings a year too late.
Our fans ask has been very reasonable - just show some improvement in our style and we dont care about results. Look at Lampard - despite losing 4-0 at OT, they were quite good on that day. Their play has been good today as well.

And where do we stand?
 
May as well hire Winnie the Poo. The club is rotten from the core all the way up. Fergie must be lookimg down in shame, he out his blood sweat and tears into putting us where we were and in 6 years, it has been undone. We will not win another title for at least ankther 10 years. The future of the EPL has City all over it.
 
Can we stop that narrative please ? Lampard with a similar set is doing wonders in their game play in 2 months. Ole has absolutely no clue on his style. He just thinks players running a lot and giving 100% will earn us wins. Even Moyes era was better than this. this is horror !
They only lost hazard and a crappy David luiz. You a forgetting they have Alonso, Kante, Pulisic, Willian, Jorginho, kovacic. The spine and winning mentality is still there. I could go on and on. United don't even have players, they can barely field 11. We have good players too but one injury and there is no one to replace them.
 
Our fans ask has been very reasonable - just show some improvement in our style and we dont care about results. Look at Lampard - despite losing 4-0 at OT, they were quite good on that day. Their play has been good today as well.

And where do we stand?
Chelsea are a mess defensively and have conceded 16 goals in 8 games. Anyone can look good going forward if they abandon all discipline defensively. Being happy while losing 4-0 isn't a thing and not somewhere I'd ever want to be. Yes we want to improve stylistically and it's important, but you have to be realistic at the same time. It's hard to judge our style of play when the main attackers are injured, and sometimes all you need in the attack is just the right players. We'll see how we play with Martial and Pogba fit and as the season goes on.
 
They only lost hazard and a crappy David luiz. You a forgetting they have Alonso, Kante, Pulisic, Willian, Jorginho, kovacic. The spine and winning mentality is still there. I could go on and on. United don't even have players, they can barely field 11. We have good players too but one injury and there is no one to replace them.

:lol:
 
May as well hire Winnie the Poo. The club is rotten from the core all the way up. Fergie must be lookimg down in shame, he out his blood sweat and tears into putting us where we were and in 6 years, it has been undone. We will not win another title for at least ankther 10 years. The future of the EPL has City all over it.

:lol:

That about sums it up. Case closed.
 
Can we stop that narrative please ? Lampard with a similar set is doing wonders in their game play in 2 months. Ole has absolutely no clue on his style. He just thinks players running a lot and giving 100% will earn us wins. Even Moyes era was better than this. this is horror !
:lol::lol::lol::lol: Lampard sure is doing wonders, losing back to back home games and conceding 16 in 8. Fecking people.
 
Chelsea are a mess defensively and have conceded 16 goals in 8 games. Anyone can look good going forward if they abandon all discipline defensively. Being happy while losing 4-0 isn't a thing and not somewhere I'd ever want to be. Yes we want to improve stylistically and it's important, but you have to be realistic at the same time. It's hard to judge our style of play when the main attackers are injured, and sometimes all you need in the attack is just the right players. We'll see how we play with Martial and Pogba fit and as the season goes on.

Yeah I don’t get the Lampard and Chelsea hype. They have been just as bad as we have been this season.
 
Yeah I don’t get the Lampard and Chelsea hype. They have been just as bad as we have been this season.
Theyve been fecking woeful. People are saying its admirable that they're attacking but they are literally up there with the worst defensive sides in the league.
 
They only lost hazard and a crappy David luiz. You a forgetting they have Alonso, Kante, Pulisic, Willian, Jorginho, kovacic. The spine and winning mentality is still there. I could go on and on. United don't even have players, they can barely field 11. We have good players too but one injury and there is no one to replace them.
My point was about implementing a style though. If you have the right coach, you can do it in couple of months
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol: Lampard sure is doing wonders, losing back to back home games and conceding 16 in 8. Fecking people.
Tbh, I would take that right now if it means we are getting an identity. They will get better this season eventually. He just took over about a month ago and I can see their progress in game style already .
 
It hardly matters who the manager is with these players

So your telling me if Solskjear was in charge of liverpool they would be 1st in the league and undefeated or if he was in charge of Leicester, west ham or arsenal they would be in their current positions?
 
Chelsea are a mess defensively and have conceded 16 goals in 8 games. Anyone can look good going forward if they abandon all discipline defensively. Being happy while losing 4-0 isn't a thing and not somewhere I'd ever want to be. Yes we want to improve stylistically and it's important, but you have to be realistic at the same time. It's hard to judge our style of play when the main attackers are injured, and sometimes all you need in the attack is just the right players. We'll see how we play with Martial and Pogba fit and as the season goes on.
Fair point but again we have been seeing this shit since PSG game though. It's not like Ole never had his full team available.
 
Tbh, I would take that right now if it means we are getting an identity. They will get better this season eventually. He just took over about a month ago and I can see their progress in game style already .
Identity is throwing everyone forward abandoning all sense of positioning and structure defensively? Why would they just get better eventually? Lampard has shown literally nothing to suggest he can have them balanced, and its not like defensive structure is an easy thing to fix.
 
allegri for me - and I said that before Ole got the job. had the board waited til the end of last season as they said they were going to do, I think allegri might have got it then although he did talk about needing a break. that said, I think the change will come not because Ole will be sacked but because, as I've said before, he's is such a decent guy, he'll quit
 
I am too. I dont think these players give a shit they need a rocket up their arse from now.

I still think you're getting the wrong end of the stick if you think it's about 'attitude' or 'hard-work'.

What we need is a proper coach. You can criticise Poch's winning record, but he's proven his coaching pedigree at Spurs now. He knows what he wants and he knows how to implement it with the cards he's been dealt. None of this shit, about I don't have this & that.
 
Doesnt matter who the manager is if we dont sufficiently improve the squad and get ahead of the game rather then playing catch up every year and making the right signings a year too late. We needed a couple of midfielders last summer and once we sold Lukaku, needed an attacker. Didn't do any of this.
It does matter that a capable hand is in charge when said improvements are being made.
 
Identity is throwing everyone forward abandoning all sense of positioning and structure defensively? Why would they just get better eventually? Lampard has shown literally nothing to suggest he can have them balanced, and its not like defensive structure is an easy thing to fix.
To be fair to him, his best defender is still not available. Point being, he is already showing some progress (good or bad in the long run is yet to be seen) while we have regressed since new year.
 
I still think you're getting the wrong end of the stick if you think it's about 'attitude' or 'hard-work'.

What we need is a proper coach. You can criticise Poch's winning record, but he's proven his coaching pedigree at Spurs now. He knows what he wants and he knows how to implement it with the cards he's been dealt. None of this shit, about I don't have this & that.
I am not criticising Poch I am saying he would get them working harder.
 
It does matter that a capable hand is in charge when said improvements are being made.
Very happy with us getting rid of fellaini/valencia/lukaku/sanchez/smalling and dropping Matic. Also very happy with signing James, Wan Bissaka and Maguire. The problem was just that it wasnt enough, but it doesnt mean that any of them were ultimately the wrong decisions. That's why I pretty ok with Ole staying for now. Nothing special tactically but not awful either. We just need the squad built up to scratch where the manager doesnt make us collapse.
 
Does not really matter unless we got a proper structure in place and get rid of that twat Woodward.

May sound weird, but our fitness coaches and physios also needs upgrading. Why the feck do we have so many muscular injuries six games into the season?
 
Very happy with us getting rid of fellaini/valencia/lukaku/sanchez/smalling and dropping Matic. Also very happy with signing James, Wan Bissaka and Maguire. The problem was just that it wasnt enough, but it doesnt mean that any of them were ultimately the wrong decisions. That's why I pretty ok with Ole staying for now. Nothing special tactically but not awful either. We just need the squad built up to scratch where the manager doesnt make us collapse.
Fair enough cos I think he's awful tactically. Emphasis on fitness and running, Lingard as a #10 showing a poor understanding of attacking structure and roles, no playing identity, has mental blocks on what subs to make and when which is odd for a young manager talk less of one that's been managing for 10 years. In my opinion his tactical failings show his ceiling is low. He has bought well I'll admit but that still makes him a good scout and a bad coach
 
Keep Ole til the end of the season unless 1) someone brilliant becomes available (I don't think Allegri suits our profile) or 2) we look in danger of relegation.

Bring in Luis Campos now and have him go through the process of overhauling our club. Julian Nagelsmann looks a good choice for head coach but I doubt he's obtainable just yet. Poch would be good if the compensation isn't too much. I like Tuchel but worry about his man management. At this point, I don't see many other options. We need someone top drawer but the DOF role is far more pressing. It's crucial we don't get blinded by the United old boys philosophy again. There's values and styles they should adhere to but we should judge the coach on their ability and merits first and foremost. For example, Klopp understands and emotes in harmony with Liverpool's history despite having no prior connection to the club.
 
Dont understand why fans think we would only be able to choose managers that dont currently have a job, Leicester were able to get Rodgers from Celtic halfway through a season and Rodgers is a better manager than Solskjear if you base it on their managerial careers to date rather than 1 isolated result last saturday, at least if we did it now a manager would have practically a whole season to achieve something with top 4, fa cup, league cup and Europa league all still up for grabs and have time to implement his way of playing.

It would mean splashing out on compensation but at least we would be able to put the lukaku money to good use before january
 
No ITK, but spoke to a Journo who may or may not know shit. (although he has interviewed every United manager since and including Sir Alex)

Recons the idea of Klopp wanting to join United may not be as far fetched as it seems.
 
Does not really matter unless we got a proper structure in place and get rid of that twat Woodward.

May sound weird, but our fitness coaches and physios also needs upgrading. Why the feck do we have so many muscular injuries six games into the season?
Yeah we need to do exactly what Liverpool are doing. There injury record has been amazing.
 
No ITK, but spoke to a Journo who may or may not know shit. (although he has interviewed every United manager since and including Sir Alex)

Recons the idea of Klopp wanting to join United may not be as far fetched as it seems.
Does he work for The Sun by any chance?:)
 
No ITK, but spoke to a Journo who may or may not know shit. (although he has interviewed every United manager since and including Sir Alex)

Recons the idea of Klopp wanting to join United may not be as far fetched as it seems.

Haha, even I would need some convincing to leave my job to take over united right now.