If we want Poch we need to act fast. He will be the most in-demand manager in world football; Bayern and Real will be after him big time, and there's even a chance City could be sniffing about if the rumours of Guardiola leaving at the end of the season are true. We need to get an agreement with him ASAP, even if we don't actually hire him till the end of the season.
United’s next manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
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Ah dammit i forgot about bayern! This is more stressful than brexit!
I like the direction Ole is going with the side but I think Poch could take us back to the top.
Ole DOF with Poch Manager anyone?
Ole DOF with Poch Manager anyone?
There are some sources in Germany that have been saying for a few weeks that Poch is Bayern's top target.
Crazy, right?
I’m not totally convinced Poch is the long term answer but worth a punt for the short term.
I think someone else here said it but OGS as DoF might not be a bad shout. He knows the club, understands our vision and can play a big part in our long term strategy.
We are in the start of at total make over.But yet we have a bunch of people backing a man that has us 7th.
Ambition
Ole has got rid of a lot of deadwood, in order to buy new players. Our penny pincing owners, refusing to buy more than three players at a time, makes the job harder. Our thin squad + injurys at key players, has given us a tough start at the season. But we are the only team that has taken points of Liverpool. And we beat Tonntenham and Chelsea.
Ole is doing a fantastic job.
Poch have got a team which he have handpicked himself, and coached for 5 years. And he is taken them towards relegation.
He would never have handled the situation at Manchester United, and would have got us relegated for shore.
If I was Poch that's what I would do. He'll have his pick of jobs and can take his time to review each option.
We’re obviously not hiring Poch, so you may as well just get over him.
Thank you for this insightful and well reasoned argument
I'm sure we'll fail to take advantage of his sacking and I'm sure we'll regret it like we did Klopp. Plenty of people harking on about the LVG project back then.
Doubt Poch will go anywhere until the summer.
Will be interesting to see this thread over time.
We have to start negotiations and secure Poch's position so that he'll at least take over in summer, like what we did when we hired Mourinho post LVG.
"Nice try though"
I said SAF was sacked. This is is a fact, slightly better than a nice try, the circumstances around the sacking were interesting too.
Was having a complete shitshow of a season with St Mirren, at odds with the owner, discontentment in the dressing room, was a manager in demand and had an opportunity to leave the season prior to his sacking but wrongly chose to remain. Pretty much a similar situation to a certain unemployed Argentine.
He might have been involved in a court case pleading it was an unfair dismissal because it was levelled at him that he'd been disloyal, but things were sour as feck with St Mirren it's been well documented, Fergie admitted himself he should have moved on when he had the chance. As should Poch have.
As I’ve said previously above. You earn the right to manager here. Being 7th in the league should always get you sacked. The fact he decided to get rid of ‘deadwood’ whilst knowing we have a 3 in policy is his own fault. He priorities our defence when we had 6 CB’s. It doesn’t add up.
Completely agree.
We can't keep changing managers. The club needs stability and I feel Ole is providing stability. He's building a young likeable team and for the first time in a long time I can see a recruitment strategy in place.
Appointing Pochettino would be a massive risk and would mean starting from scratch all over again. Pochettino is also a serial bottler who comes up short whenever silverware is there for the taking.
So which clubs are so desperate for Mauricio Pochettino at the moment? Because apart from his fanboys at the Caf, I don't see anyone else losing their shit to try and get him right now."Nice try though"
I said SAF was sacked. This is is a fact, slightly better than a nice try, the circumstances around the sacking were interesting too.
Was having a complete shitshow of a season with St Mirren, at odds with the owner, discontentment in the dressing room, was a manager in demand and had an opportunity to leave the season prior to his sacking but wrongly chose to remain. Pretty much a similar situation to a certain unemployed Argentine.
He might have been involved in a court case pleading it was an unfair dismissal because it was levelled at him that he'd been disloyal, but things were sour as feck with St Mirren it's been well documented, Fergie admitted himself he should have moved on when he had the chance. As should Poch have.
Could be a decent option for Barcelona as their fans hate Valverde, but Pochettino himself has said he would never betray his club Espanyol. And as Bayern Munich fans have said, their board would rather go for a German speaking coach so it seems highly unlikely that the Argentine goes there. We seem the only ones desperate enough, just like it was with Mourinho and look how that turned out.
There is a lot of “We have to “ going on here.
What the caf thinks
Ed : Hi Ole What can I do for you today ?
Ole : Ive seen Poch has been sacked I’m going to step down it’s the right thing to do.
Ed Ok Ole . Fancy a DOF job ?
Ole: Yes let’s see how the boys react.
What the caf thinks
Ed : Hi Ole What can I do for you today ?
Ole : Ive seen Poch has been sacked I’m going to step down it’s the right thing to do.
Ed Ok Ole . Fancy a DOF job ?
Ole: Yes let’s see how the boys react.
If we dont win sunday imagine this and the poch sacked thread
And not for the first time as he left the team in Spain rock bottom 9 points off safety and then sacked
If we dont win sunday imagine this and the poch sacked thread
Meltdown, Chernobyl style.It's honestly embarrassing to keep saying such a thing as an achievement. We are acting as if we are Stock City who managed to draw against one of the big boys. Full midtable club mentality that.
Won't even comment on that fantastic job part that.
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Look into Ole’s eyes and you can see he knows he ain’t hanging around here as manager for long - he’s no fool.
Just doing the best with the time he has because why the feck not - he’s a red!
Just doing the best with the time he has because why the feck not - he’s a red!
I bet City would have taken a fecking draw against Liverpool. They must be a mid-table team too.
I like Ole, not Ole out, but I think I'm Poch in. I'm sort of having my cake and eating it too, but you know what i mean. No big payoff to Levy, don't have to deal with him at all. Poch will have great motivation to prove he can win, and will now have a budget that will allow it. Ole steps into the DOF role, or something along those lines. VDS just re-signed with Ajax so he aint coming here. The stars are aligning my fellow red friends and haters.
No they wouldn't. Not at home while they are trailing them in points.
Honestly I don't know how can anyone not getting embarrassed with mentioning a draw against a big team at our home as some sort of an achievement. Expectations have went down hill.
That is the only memory stopping me from losing all hope of the club being proactive for once.
Once a back-stabber, always a back-stabber...
And because they wouldn't take it, now City are 4th in the table and Guardiola is close to a meltdown.
The fact is that whether we like it or nor, Liverpool are the best team in England and in Europe at the moment. They would have had the longest winning streak in PL history if we hadn't drawn with them and we were actually very close to wining that game if it wasn't for some stupid individual mistakes (yet again).
Mauricio Pochettino:
Welcome to Disneyland
Welcome to Disneyland
No one is saying it wasn't a decent tactically set up match but a big club fans shouldn't keep mentioning a draw at home as some sort of big thing just like I see hear a lot. So what, pretty much the first step in becoming a mid-table club.
I don't consider it as a back stabbing personally. Managers should know they don't have their job for granted. Perform shite and the club will check on other better managers available.
You don't get it, do you? Liverpool have a special team at the moment, even a guy like Roy Keane has admitted that on numerous occasions recently and he isn't one to give praise easily. Getting any result against them is a job well done right now.
I don't agree with that kind of thinking at all, especially while we were playing at home but whatever. We won't agree on this.
I wouldn’t want him here straight away. He looks tired and drained and a 6 month break from the game and a couple of good holidays will reignite him. A lean, tanned and hungry Pottechino will undoubtedly be the most sought after manager in world football come the summer.
Ok the long version:
We need a DoF to manage a rebuild.
The Premier League is dominated by the two/three clubs who have mastered the High Press.
Therefore we need to master the High Press too.
Poch is one of only three PL managers who can do this. Spurs are morons for losing him. Woodward is a moron if he doesn't grab him.
So we should grab him (but probably won't.)
But this is a rebuilding season. He might as well concentrate on that and come fresh to the fight in the summer.
Bit shit for Ole but he will suck it up. He's lucky to be there and he knows it.
I agree in a vacuum, but LVG was definitely backstabbed by Woodward back then.
They convinced LVG to take 3 years instead of 2 years in the first place, knew in advance we would be his final club before retirement, then agreed with Mourinho & kept it a secret from LVG for 6 months, whilst LVG was having his authority gradually undermined over time, being repeatedly asked in the press every week about it. LVG even said afterwards he would have stepped aside come the summer if they had told him.
It was a total lack of class for sure.
You don't agree?
Lets announce him before christmas, Ole will understand, he loves the club after all and wants whats best for us.