Poch wants full run of the club, it was his call. After Mitchell when he signed his new contract, his job title changed from first team coach to manager. Anyway Mitchell was not a traditional director of football, he was head of recruitment as far as I can recall.
United’s next manager
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Poch wants full run of the club, it was his call. After Mitchell when he signed his new contract, his job title changed from first team coach to manager. Anyway Mitchell was not a traditional director of football, he was head of recruitment as far as I can recall.
Ole sets the foundations and Tuchel takes the rewards.
Odds on the next Premier League manager to leave his role. Alot of people disagree with you.
I think he will leave in the Summer if I'm truthfully honest. I think other managers will go before him, like Garcia did.
Poch or Alegri for me. Would like Ole to stay until he at least gets rid of the other deadwood Rojo, Jones, Young, Mata first
By "foundations" you mean being so shit tactically and strategically that anything remotely good Tuchel does will be seen as a massive improvement and a progress?
If Poch ends up at Madrid and out of our reach I'm going to pull my hair out that we had a run at him for 2 years and wasted it. The annoyance will be double if Ole doesn't work out
No he isn't. He failed miserably with my national team, Nigeria. He would be a terrible choice for Man United.
All correct. Well said.
Few years is optimistic. Way Ole is going he won't last the season.
Disagree. We'll see by the seasons season's end.
The way he's going he won't last until the end of October.
The way people talk about Poch on here you'd think he was SAF, Guardiola and peak Mourinho all rolled into one. The only man that can possibly save us.
Obviously it should be Allegri. Will it be? Idk.
I like Benitez as a Manager, but I don't think the UTD faithful will take to him after his rant few years ago, also he's past his best now, pressure he'd have at OT, don't think he could do it.I read this in my head incorporating all those question marks and throughly enjoyed it, nice oneBut seriously, Rafa Benitez is a great shout by me.
The isuues we have are if big if , ole can get results when not being on it, Pool are getting those, at present, City just keep rolling on.
Young side youngish manager with not much top tier experience , it's going to be a long road. But Poch for me if there's a change
We should move to a "win or your out" model. Essentially once a manager loses a game, he's out. Can't believe our standards have sunk so low that we can accept a loss without axing a manager. Unreal.
Impossible to say. He's probably just 4-5 years now.
Pointless thread.
Well quite a few loses. But you keep losing it just becomes acceptable. Like you said.
But good idea with the ‘win or you’re out’. I prefer the “keep loosing and you stay” we currently adopt.
Need to give any new manager some time. I know it's the generation of instant gratification but let's all calm the feck down for a moment, see that we've cleared plenty of players who dont fit the system, bought some really good players, and need some time to gel and get it together. I think we're making progress so let's not feck it up by just going overboard.
You give manager time if he shows promise, if you see some progress on the pitch, if you see stability and good tactics. Not just double down on your mistake of giving him the permanent job in the first place.
And using past examples of failure with other managers as an argument for why someone else shouldn't be hired is misguided at best.
And using past examples of failure with other managers as an argument for why someone else shouldn't be hired is misguided at best.
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Very pointless.
I don't know what Allegri has done for the fans to be so hyped over him. He was criticised in Juve for being defensive, not sure he fits a United manager profile.
No idea why Tuchel is even mentioned. All talks about Ole not having pedigree, but wow Tuchel? Winning the French League with PSG IMO is not success.
All this talk about Poch, why would he want to leave Spurs now?
I don't know what Allegri has done for the fans to be so hyped over him. He was criticised in Juve for being defensive, not sure he fits a United manager profile.
No idea why Tuchel is even mentioned. All talks about Ole not having pedigree, but wow Tuchel? Winning the French League with PSG IMO is not success.
All this talk about Poch, why would he want to leave Spurs now?
Another defensive Jose type manager, no thank you. He'll come in get rid of everyone buy a bunch of expensive mercs again, not make top 4, get sacked and we're back to square one. Rinse and repeat for the next 100 years! Great idea..
Pochs - Spurs
Nuno - Wolves
Le Favre - Dortmund
Nagelsmann- Leipzig
Erik ten Hag - Ajax
Howe- Bournemouth
Nuno - Wolves
Le Favre - Dortmund
Nagelsmann- Leipzig
Erik ten Hag - Ajax
Howe- Bournemouth
Yea if these bottlers keep missing penalties sure! Hope Ole make's everyone eat their words!
All of those managers were put into Ole's position more or less an given a chance to succeed with no pedigree at very good clubs, but most of all Pep Guardiola, who inherited a squad with some of the worlds best players.
We shouldn't be relying on penalties to get points
No we shouldn't, BUT if they were converted this thread wouldn't currently exist, and we'd be on 10 points atleast. Ole cant be blamed for that.
These no pedigree managers. Where they given time to fail?
By that I mean. When results weren’t going well with there lack of ‘pedigree’ at that given time was they given time?
I like the look at that. Would hope that’s the type of list United would be generating if a new manager is required.
Dortmund. That’s why Tuchel gets mentioned. He took over Klopp and got Dortmund back up the table. Not a 3year back up the table plan either.
Poch is probably the best we could get .
He got them 2nd and 3rd if I am not wrong?
Despicable isn't it!?
But Simeone is ultra defensive. Basically, his brand would be worse that Jose's.
It just would not make any sense.
Southgate
Out of curiosity, how well do you think Guardiola or Klopp would have done here when control of transfers & budgets are in the hands of Woodward & the Glazers?
Just one glance at City's squad, how many of those players would we have failed to sign..?
Just one glance at City's squad, how many of those players would we have failed to sign..?
Why is a penalty so different to other chances created? If Pogba doesn't get brought down against Wolves... there is every chance he scores. McTominay was bursting into the Palace box towards goal when he was brought down against Palace... Martial deserved a penalty in that same match when he was pulled down and again, there is every chance he scores if he wasn't fouled.
Very well actually. Not because of any signings, these managers make players better. Could you imagine what either of them would have done to Pogba, Martial, Rashford ?
Klopp has spent less than United.
City signed players who were not really targetted by any other club, they had a free run at Sterling, KDB, Walker, Stones, Bernado, Rodri..
We have spent massively on CB, CM, RB, ST so I think they would have done better because the vision is similar. Jose wanted ready made players, but Ed was not willing to spend £50m on a 27 yr old winger.
Pep and Klopp have both bought young hungry players.