I want Poch but more inimportant, I want Woodward gone!!!
United’s next manager
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Julian Nagelsmann
The next manager will be exactly the same as the previous unless the way the club is ran is changed. How can the football improve when it isn't the main focus? Face facts that we are a business, not a club.
But to answer the question....Tuchel or Poch, but I'd also take a chance on Eddie Howe
But to answer the question....Tuchel or Poch, but I'd also take a chance on Eddie Howe
We should be very careful in picking the next manager, it should be someone who suits the squad we have as changing the squad all the time is not possible. We have many young players so we should be looking at the managers who can improve players rather than mangers who rely on experienced older players to get results. With the squad we have, Poch would be very good appointment.
Agree. There's a delusion among United fans with respect to time and results all because the greatest manager in the game took some time to become successful failing to account for the difference in circumstances, and his complete and utter genius. We've become so enamored by 'stabity' and time, that's it's actually hurting rather than helping us. We should have a vision of course. You can't just go around changing course every year. Have a vision but beyond that if you have selected the wrong person you have to replace him. Stability can also come an overarching set of values.
I think we have to try to bag the next big managerial talent out there. I don't mind established managers of course, but we need someone who we find at the perfect time in their career. Even great managers can lose their magic.
If PSG don't win the CL I imagine he'll have to go.
Yeah, not sure in which category you put Poch in. IMO he is young manager with lot of experience who fits the bill.
There are other candidates too like ten Hag, Nagelsmann but I doubt how much they can change the club and playing style.
I haven't seen enough of the others to be honest. I'd take Pochettino given his record at developing players. Ideally wed have a more exciting manager in charge - maybe Nagelsmann /Ten Had are that? Regardless we really need a proper coach of footballers to sort us out tactically.
I'm pretty sure that it's not the minimum objective and I don't know what PSG will or won't do. It depends entirely on Leonardo.
Any of the below would be fine.
Tuchel
Poch
Nagelsmann
Tuchel
Poch
Nagelsmann
Whoever prevents Rashford from ever taking a FK will be loved by me 
Poch- logical and the best choice.
. Plays attacking football, proven, knows how to build a squad, doesn't have problems with players or fans. I guess that he would be open for move and now i his fee wouldn't be those 30 mil. Maybe even he resigns or gets sacked in next month.
Allegri- also very good choice. He is not that defensive as some people suggest. Tactically very good, proven, knows how to win titles, pragmatic( that is good thing you spoiled bastards), has good relationship with players and he is free.
Tuchel- similiar like Poch but i doubt that he will be interested to come
Nagelsmann- attacking coach who is doing very good job so far but he would be slight risk because of lack experience in working in big clubs and big players. But still, not a bad choice
Howe- English version of Nagelsmann. I would take him before Nagelsmann
Ancelotti- proven, winner, (was) one of the best in the business. But is he in decline? I wouldn't go with him personally but in a short term yes.
. Plays attacking football, proven, knows how to build a squad, doesn't have problems with players or fans. I guess that he would be open for move and now i his fee wouldn't be those 30 mil. Maybe even he resigns or gets sacked in next month.Allegri- also very good choice. He is not that defensive as some people suggest. Tactically very good, proven, knows how to win titles, pragmatic( that is good thing you spoiled bastards
), has good relationship with players and he is free.Tuchel- similiar like Poch but i doubt that he will be interested to come
Nagelsmann- attacking coach who is doing very good job so far but he would be slight risk because of lack experience in working in big clubs and big players. But still, not a bad choice
Howe- English version of Nagelsmann. I would take him before Nagelsmann
Ancelotti- proven, winner, (was) one of the best in the business. But is he in decline? I wouldn't go with him personally but in a short term yes.
What is Laurent Blanc doing now?
I wonder if people on here realise that if you get another new manager, they are going to take many months, as all managers do, to evaluate for themselves the Young's and the Mata's in the squad - thus continuing to be stuck with them for the foreseeable future.
Let Ole finish the clearout and get players in. Then if there's little improvement by the end of next (yes, next) season, get rid if you must.
Martial has improved (or at least found form) under Ole, McTominay continues to improve. There is decent individual training going on - Rashford, despite being 22, probably has little to no improvement left in him under any manager. And, as many of you screamed for, the youth are being given every chance - never mind that they are not yet anywhere near good enough (including Greenwood). The fact you for a long time have not played coherently as a team in a long time is a big worry, and that's on Ole - but he should stay anyway because for the last 3 managers you've had you've called for the sack under the assumption that any manager must be better - only to find out after 2 years that's not the case and you are absolutely no nearer to being a Premiership force than you were before.
Let Ole finish the clearout and get players in. Then if there's little improvement by the end of next (yes, next) season, get rid if you must.
Martial has improved (or at least found form) under Ole, McTominay continues to improve. There is decent individual training going on - Rashford, despite being 22, probably has little to no improvement left in him under any manager. And, as many of you screamed for, the youth are being given every chance - never mind that they are not yet anywhere near good enough (including Greenwood). The fact you for a long time have not played coherently as a team in a long time is a big worry, and that's on Ole - but he should stay anyway because for the last 3 managers you've had you've called for the sack under the assumption that any manager must be better - only to find out after 2 years that's not the case and you are absolutely no nearer to being a Premiership force than you were before.
Given how much people rave about Nagelsmann, Howe being his English version is a big deal. I do like him to be honest.Poch- logical and the best choice.
Allegri- also very good choice. He is not that defensive as some people suggest. Tactically very good, proven, knows how to win titles, pragmatic( that is good thing you spoiled bastards
Tuchel- similiar like Poch but i doubt that he will be interested to come
Nagelsmann- attacking coach who is doing very good job so far but he would be slight risk because of lack experience in working in big clubs and big players. But still, not a bad choice
Howe- English version of Nagelsmann. I would take him before Nagelsmann
Ancelotti- proven, winner, (was) one of the best in the business. But is he in decline? I wouldn't go with him personally but in a short term yes.
Me too. There is something in that guy. Not in my first 3 choices but if it is between him and Nagelsmann, i would go with Howe
We have none of them.
You are wrong there. Maybe we don't have top top players( except Pogba and DDG imo) but our players have big ego. You think that working with Martial, Pogba, Rashford or Maguire is easy? And imagine situation when some young dude from Germany comes to work with them?
Ole was never the man to replace Jose, that was a big mistake and to continue that into next season is just suicidal imo. Whoever is the next manager MUST insist on a clear out before signing any contract. If he can come and sign 5 players I think he would be well placed to get into top 4 given how inconsistent the clubs above is are.
Prefer Poch or Tuchel, but neither is available right now
Allegri would give us entertaining threads.
I don't know what people expect him to do here.
Summary of his final season at Juve: Got 90 points grinding out wins - while getting outplayed regularly - in a league where Juventus has 2x the budget of the 2nd team and about 10x compared to the average team. Oh, of course all that while having Cristiano at his disposal.
Allegri would give us entertaining threads.
I don't know what people expect him to do here.
Summary of his final season at Juve: Got 90 points grinding out wins - while getting outplayed regularly - in a league where Juventus has 2x the budget of the 2nd team and about 10x compared to the average team. Oh, of course all that while having Cristiano at his disposal.
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If they are proffesional enough, they would listen to him and follow his instructions, regardless of their unjustifiably hypertrophied ego. To be honest - none of them, apart Pogba (WC winner and CL finalist), have any ground to bear big ego.
I am going to throw in the name Christian Streich. Watched a bit of Freiburg and they seem to have established quite a nice brand of football this season.
Why do you look only at his last season? Of course it was bad that was why he left Juve while he still won the league.
This could very well be Pochettino's last season as well but we wouldn't hire any of them based on their last season would we?
First of all that's not true. Juve was dominant for 90% of the season. After 27 rounds they had 75 points (24-3-0 record), 59-17 GD, dominated possession, chances, everything. Their final score in the league is hugely affected by just giving up after Ajax eliminated them and shutting down some players.
But ok, let's go on. So you don't want Allegri because of his last season but you want Tuchel who has an even more superior squad to other teams in his league and recorded the most losses of any PSG winning team in this new era and was knocked out of CL by Ole? Lost the cup final to Rennais I think? Allegri is not the right man but Pochettino who lost the title to freaking Leicester and just got hammered at home with 7 goals is the world beater? And btw - neither of those guys is this attacking mastermind people think they are.
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Problem is..ole can play 2x worse football and he still cant amas 60 pts
A manager that plays possessionbased football and got a history of improving the players abilities through active coaching and training.
We need someone who can coach individually and collectively who will get us playing modern football with patterns of play etc. That’s more important than someone whose won trophies now, we’re shit and someone who can change that is needed not someone who is coming here expecting to compete straight away.
It has to be someone like Poch, Nagelsman or maybe even Howe. Of course there is still the shit show behind the scenes which probably won’t change but that’s a lost cause for whatever reason.
I’d steer clear of Allegri, would be good if we were only couple of players short but this is a longer term project and probably wouldn’t be right time.
It has to be someone like Poch, Nagelsman or maybe even Howe. Of course there is still the shit show behind the scenes which probably won’t change but that’s a lost cause for whatever reason.
I’d steer clear of Allegri, would be good if we were only couple of players short but this is a longer term project and probably wouldn’t be right time.
Has C.Ronaldo ever said anything about him looking into management at some point?
Now there’s a guy who could inspire a group of players and a team to real greatness just with his aura determination, winning mentality and work ethic, regardless of his experience in coaching (he was a bit of an assistant in that Euro final from the touchline wasn’t he?).
Cristiano Ronaldo, manager of Manchester United, the third manager to bring the European cup to Old trafford.
Sounds lovely isn’t it?
Now there’s a guy who could inspire a group of players and a team to real greatness just with his aura determination, winning mentality and work ethic, regardless of his experience in coaching (he was a bit of an assistant in that Euro final from the touchline wasn’t he?).
Cristiano Ronaldo, manager of Manchester United, the third manager to bring the European cup to Old trafford.
Sounds lovely isn’t it?
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I wouldn't be wrong because I have a brother who's a Juventus fan so we watch every Juve and United game together. And I was never arguing the budget and Ronaldo. Those two are irrelevant because every great team has a budget and top players.
Winning trophies again would be hilarious?
We are saying this since Moyes was sacked. "Careful thought going into next Manager" I think that thought now is, he has to agree with Woodward. Honestly the worst squad I have seen in all my years following United since 1959.
Yeah, we can't say we should be reckless with manager appointment.
Article in The Mirror praising Brendan Rodgers and putting him forward for the United job.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brendan-rodgers-future-man-utd-20445699
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brendan-rodgers-future-man-utd-20445699
For me, i think Poch's situation is very similar to D. Simone, their attacking methods are a little dead end, even Poch reached CL final last year. You can tell from the match, just pressing and pressing, and then base on individual's quality, more and more tie games happen in the last 3 seasons. Maybe we can be Top 4 every year under Poch, but it is hard to win trophies if the manager cannot improve his philosophy year and year, just like SAF did.
Julian Nagelsmann, instead is my top list, because you can see he has a clear mind of attacking philosophy, and successfully implied into both Hoffenheim and RB Leipzig. Also his tactic is very flexible, can play 343, 352, 433, 4231 according to his record. And the most important, he likes to promote youngsters, especially we are currently full of talents at academy in the following years.
Poch is like Sanchez at Arsenal. Top class, but reach the potential, and has a little trend to decline. J. Nagelsmann is a rising star, full of energy, still not fulfil his potential, like Sancho in Dortmund. Remember, Man Utd always good at making stars rather than buying stars.
Julian Nagelsmann, instead is my top list, because you can see he has a clear mind of attacking philosophy, and successfully implied into both Hoffenheim and RB Leipzig. Also his tactic is very flexible, can play 343, 352, 433, 4231 according to his record. And the most important, he likes to promote youngsters, especially we are currently full of talents at academy in the following years.
Poch is like Sanchez at Arsenal. Top class, but reach the potential, and has a little trend to decline. J. Nagelsmann is a rising star, full of energy, still not fulfil his potential, like Sancho in Dortmund. Remember, Man Utd always good at making stars rather than buying stars.
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Ia Nagelsmann has United DNA? If not then we should forget about him. Our club runs based on the past though. Our mindset are still from those times.
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Then we need to define what is United DNA. Attacking football? Passion? Willing to win? If yes, then Nagelsmann has all of above, and i think his philosophy, his tactic is more suitable than Poch.
Streich is a great coach and even greater human being. The most liked and respected coach in the whole country. But, nothing could be more impossible than Streich at United.