The interviews would almost make it worth it.
United’s next manager
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The interviews would almost make it worth it.
Massimiliano Allegri learning English as he targets Manchester United job.
Allegri would be the opposite of what we need.
Would be a awful acquisition who IMO would set us even further back.
Actual coaching, experience, tactical knowledge, man management, intelligence, flexibility and winning mentality is the last thing we need?
"Hello, Ed Woodwa -"
"Speak no more, you're hired"
That's how I imagine the conversation with Woodward goes, before he hires a manager. Allegri should have it nailed in 5 minutes
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So at a age of 52 he still can't speak english..
He might not be a big name however what about Chris Wilder? His team's play exiting football and he has consistently had his team's playing "above their level".
If he can do a great job with the Blades this season his stock could rise.
If he can do a great job with the Blades this season his stock could rise.
I'm guessing you at the age of 42 are a fluent Spanish, Italian and French speaker?
No but the eager to acquire new language skills normally consists with your own situation and is not depended on the results of an third party's job results..hence the label click bait..
Does this man deserve to be Manchester United coach?
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What the actual feck ?
One of the most important matches of the season, such coaches as Simone, Conte, Guardiola would be already furious on how the team works, but here there are practically no emotions, and contentment with the result is 10th place in the table ...
Allegri. Please. Allegri is a poor mans Mourinho. He took over Milan and destroyed them - They haven't recovered in 8 years now, and they were in a better position than we are now - looking at the squad he took over there. Sold Zlatan in his prime for pennies. Let Pirlo go for free to Juve.
Juve won 5-8 years in a row, but they didn't have any real competition. I also believe Juve has big the biggest net spender in Serie A, by far. When the best team spent the most money to stay on top, they usually stay on top, even with half a manager.
Allegri is a typical Chelsea manager. Might have partial success for one season.
Juve won 5-8 years in a row, but they didn't have any real competition. I also believe Juve has big the biggest net spender in Serie A, by far. When the best team spent the most money to stay on top, they usually stay on top, even with half a manager.
Allegri is a typical Chelsea manager. Might have partial success for one season.
Poch is the man to take us forward. He's shown that he can rebuild a team and plays a good style of football.
We should've got him in the summer after letting Ole walk away from his caretaker role gracefully.
If Spurs sack him, then we should act very quickly and make it happen.
We should've got him in the summer after letting Ole walk away from his caretaker role gracefully.
If Spurs sack him, then we should act very quickly and make it happen.
He will end up at Bayern when Lewandowski goes to Vancouver Whitecaps (or another MLS team) is my guess. What's worse, Bayern will probably manage to sign him mid season for a reasonable fee
English language education in Italy isn't that good, but more importantly he probably hasn't needed it. Anyway, he can afford a private tutor and learn quite quickly.
I think Pochettino is done at Spurs and hit the wall, I honestly don’t think Levy would fight that hard to keep him right now and I don’t doubt for a second that Levy has already got a plan in place for their next manager.
Ole delivered my happiest memory in football and I’ll love him forever but despite knowing the club inside out and knowing the type of player and character we need he’s not anywhere near good enough tactically or coach wise, he’s absolutely perfect as our Sporting Director but not as our manager.
Let’s bring in Pochettino as our head coach/manager with Ole moving upstairs as Sporting Director and give them 3 years to progress, the only thing is that the board need to go along with what needs to spent as the squad needs serious investment.
We’ve started the ball rolling with the outgoings and even though we didn’t replace them I'm 100% supportive of us getting rid of all the players we did in the summer apart from Herrera (who I think should have been kept if only for this season then sold and upgraded on next summer) but now we need the incomings.
Pochettino isn’t silly and he'll see straight away what positions need to be strengthened and fit his system/tactics and he’s shown at every club he’s been at he’s great at squad building whilst getting the best out of his players, we may lose Pogba next summer but if Pochettino did get him to stay Pogba could be an absolute beast under Pochettino.
Ole delivered my happiest memory in football and I’ll love him forever but despite knowing the club inside out and knowing the type of player and character we need he’s not anywhere near good enough tactically or coach wise, he’s absolutely perfect as our Sporting Director but not as our manager.
Let’s bring in Pochettino as our head coach/manager with Ole moving upstairs as Sporting Director and give them 3 years to progress, the only thing is that the board need to go along with what needs to spent as the squad needs serious investment.
We’ve started the ball rolling with the outgoings and even though we didn’t replace them I'm 100% supportive of us getting rid of all the players we did in the summer apart from Herrera (who I think should have been kept if only for this season then sold and upgraded on next summer) but now we need the incomings.
Pochettino isn’t silly and he'll see straight away what positions need to be strengthened and fit his system/tactics and he’s shown at every club he’s been at he’s great at squad building whilst getting the best out of his players, we may lose Pogba next summer but if Pochettino did get him to stay Pogba could be an absolute beast under Pochettino.
Oh my God this is bad...
1. Allegri and Mourinho have nothing in common. Not tactically, not in personality, not in media handling. Absolutely nothing. Lazy comparison people love to make for some reason.
2. He took over at Milan, won two trophies and then saw his team torn apart in bits and pieces because Berlusconi was in financial shambles. Coaches in Italy have nothing to do with transfers, that's all on DoFs and CEOs. Both Allegri and Conte were let go by Juve after they demanded more control.
3. Milan were absolutely not in a better position than freaking Brighton, let alone one of the richest clubs ever. This was their squad the season he was fired: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_A.C._Milan_season#First_team_squad
If there were no positions next to them, other than Robinho and Kaka one year before retirement, could you honestly tell me what position any of those players play, what do they look like, where are they now?
4. Pirlo was injured for more than half the season before he was let go to Juve and demanded a multi-year contract which Milan wouldn't give him.
5. Juventus had to go 90+ pts in 4 straight years to win the title. Idc who your opponent is, just doing the math to get 90+ pts year in year out is incredibly difficult. He also won 4 straight domestic doubles (never done before in top 5 leagues), went to two CL finals with teams nowhere near the favorites list and has the highest win % in Juventus' history.
1. I don't know. He thinks it's better to win 1-0 than 3-2. He went out slating his players in media after games they lost his last season in Milan.
2. So he can't take credit for the talent they brought in either? He got sacked in Juve when they didn't qualify for CL finals, as far as I can remember?
3. Half competitive squad when he took over 2010; GK: Abbiati, Defenders: Abate, Silva, Nesta, Antonini Midfield: Pirlo, Gattuso, Van Bommel, Seedorf, Boateng in (+Flamini, Ambrosini) Attack: Zlatan, Robinho. He also "missed" the talent in Aubameyang.
4. Pirlo left Milan because he wasn't playing as deep-laying playmaker in Milan, according to his Biography. When he was fit, Allegri still tended to prefer Van Bommel, Ambrosini, and even Flamini over Pirlo, because they were regarded as safer defensive options. That's like playing Fletcher and Butt over Scholes. They're both good players, but Pirlo/Scholes was world-class. Pirlo went to Juve the next season, ended up winning the league, and being their most-used player in Serie A. Milan offered him a 1-year extension, and he wanted 3, but he claims that the real reason was that he had to change the position if he were to stay in Milan under Allegri.
5. He did well with Juventus, but my, did he take over a good team from Conte? The team he took over had just set a record of 102 points in a season. And Juve made it clear that they aimed for the CL-title. The following seasons, they brought in Coman, Morata, Higuaín, Cuadrado, Pjanic, Dybala, Sandro, a younger Mandzukic (...), Khedira, Benitia, CR7, to name a few. They had THE best squad in the league, and when they also buy the best players from their competition in the summer window 2016, it's not that impressive. Summer 2016, they bought Napoli's (2nd place) top scorer (Higuaín) and Roma's (3rd) playmaker (Pjanic).
Allegri got the boot when Juve failed to win CL 2019. Juve was the biggest spender that season (bringing in CR7, Cancelo, Costa, Bonucci, and Can (Free)) Juve almost spent twice as much as their competition in Italy on transfers under Allegri.
Allegri is a good manager, but I don't believe he's God, and I do not believe he's the right man for us if Woodie fires Ole premature.
2. So he can't take credit for the talent they brought in either? He got sacked in Juve when they didn't qualify for CL finals, as far as I can remember?
3. Half competitive squad when he took over 2010; GK: Abbiati, Defenders: Abate, Silva, Nesta, Antonini Midfield: Pirlo, Gattuso, Van Bommel, Seedorf, Boateng in (+Flamini, Ambrosini) Attack: Zlatan, Robinho. He also "missed" the talent in Aubameyang.
4. Pirlo left Milan because he wasn't playing as deep-laying playmaker in Milan, according to his Biography. When he was fit, Allegri still tended to prefer Van Bommel, Ambrosini, and even Flamini over Pirlo, because they were regarded as safer defensive options. That's like playing Fletcher and Butt over Scholes. They're both good players, but Pirlo/Scholes was world-class. Pirlo went to Juve the next season, ended up winning the league, and being their most-used player in Serie A. Milan offered him a 1-year extension, and he wanted 3, but he claims that the real reason was that he had to change the position if he were to stay in Milan under Allegri.
5. He did well with Juventus, but my, did he take over a good team from Conte? The team he took over had just set a record of 102 points in a season. And Juve made it clear that they aimed for the CL-title. The following seasons, they brought in Coman, Morata, Higuaín, Cuadrado, Pjanic, Dybala, Sandro, a younger Mandzukic (...), Khedira, Benitia, CR7, to name a few. They had THE best squad in the league, and when they also buy the best players from their competition in the summer window 2016, it's not that impressive. Summer 2016, they bought Napoli's (2nd place) top scorer (Higuaín) and Roma's (3rd) playmaker (Pjanic).
Allegri got the boot when Juve failed to win CL 2019. Juve was the biggest spender that season (bringing in CR7, Cancelo, Costa, Bonucci, and Can (Free)) Juve almost spent twice as much as their competition in Italy on transfers under Allegri.
Allegri is a good manager, but I don't believe he's God, and I do not believe he's the right man for us if Woodie fires Ole premature.
Perhaps a guy like Jesse Marsch (RB Salzburg) would be a good fit for Manchester United.
So what if he thinks that? I any many others think that too. I'd rather not concede and win than concede two and win. It's a matter of taste, doesn't mean one is better than the other.
I don't remember him slating players but I wasn't following that closely back then.
No he can't. I never said he takes credit for that. He takes credit for adapting to any team they gave him, not for bringing those players in.
Yes and he won a title with that team. His team in the last game before his sacking: 15 yr old Donnarumma in goal; Abate, Palletta, Gustavo Gomez, De Sciglio in defense; Montolivo, Kucka, Bonaventura in midfield and Suso, Bacca, Luiz Adriano in attack.
Yes, that's part of it. Allegri won Milan their first title in 7 years with Van Bommel as CDM so his decision for that was justified. Pirlo was widely regarded as a finished player back then. Injury prone and old. Juventus fans were not thrilled when he came. Hindsight is nice an all but come on.
Again, he had nothing to do with recruitment. Auba was an 18 year old kid when he came to Milan and spent next 3 years on loan with FIVE different clubs barely scoring at all before he matured at St. Etienne and started scoring more and they bought him permanently.
He did inherit a good team as any manager does. And that team went out in CL GS to Galatasaray and Allegri took that team with minor improvements to the CL final. Then they changed 90% of that team in the next 2 years and he took a different team to another final. There's no argument to be had with sentences like 'my did he have a good team'. Who hasn't? Which great manager had average players and won a lot?
Higuain is an overrated choker and the biggest mistake Juventus ever made in the transfer market. Season after he was sold Napoli scored more goals and won more points without him than they did with him. Their 'striker' was Dries Mertens.
Allegri got the boot because of disagreements with the board as to how to proceed in the transfer market. Allegri wanted a mini-revolution and more control in recruitment, the board disagreed and thought the team was already great.
Allegri is a fantastic manager but I agree he's not God, I never said he was. And it's fine you don't think he's the right man, it just bugs me to no end when people try to pin every little thing as the worst ever to a successful coach but when a sexy, hipster, 'attacking' coach is mentioned none of that other stuff matters.
My main point is that the United-squad isn't that much better than the squad he had when he failed with Milan. Dunnarumma wasn't part of his squad, no more than Williams is a vital part of our 1st team squad.
His last game had the following players starting: Abbiati, Sciglio, Bonera, Zapata, Emanuelson, Cristante, de Jong, Nocerino, Kaká, Robinho, Balotelli. Used Subs: Honda, Montolivo, Pazzini.
He would have to be a God to compete in the league with this squad compared to Juves squad. On the other side, our squad isn't that much better. Average teams winning - Leicester comes to mind. Mourinho sorta did that with us two seasons ago - we got 2nd in the league, but we did win EL. Other examples: United in SAFs last season.
I don't believe bringing in Allegri will change much for us in our current state. I also like the transfers we've done under Solskjaer. I'm a little fed up with him playing JLingz as #10 - as he's probably our least creative player even included Matic and Phil Jones.
His last game had the following players starting: Abbiati, Sciglio, Bonera, Zapata, Emanuelson, Cristante, de Jong, Nocerino, Kaká, Robinho, Balotelli. Used Subs: Honda, Montolivo, Pazzini.
He would have to be a God to compete in the league with this squad compared to Juves squad. On the other side, our squad isn't that much better. Average teams winning - Leicester comes to mind. Mourinho sorta did that with us two seasons ago - we got 2nd in the league, but we did win EL. Other examples: United in SAFs last season.
I don't believe bringing in Allegri will change much for us in our current state. I also like the transfers we've done under Solskjaer. I'm a little fed up with him playing JLingz as #10 - as he's probably our least creative player even included Matic and Phil Jones.
He is Italian. What do you expect? Do you think that Sir Alex knows Spanish?
He is not my favourite manager to join us. However he is waaaay better then Ole is. He is weaker tactically to conte but he's better in terms of man management and flexibility. He also has a reputation of making due with the players brought to him by the club
Your main point was picking apart moments from his past trying to prove he's not 'God' when no one said that. If your actual point was that I would've told you it's not true. Pogba, De Gea and Martial alone are so much better than anything he had at Milan before he got fired. Maguire, AWB, Matić, Mata, Rashford, McTominay Lindelof etc too.
He doesn't have to win the league with this team, he has to be better than also flailing Arsenal and Tottenham or win EL against the likes of Frankfurt, Dynamo Kyiev etc. Ole has some people brainwashed this is as good as it's going to get when in fact he's comfortably on the road of being our worst manager ever. Let that sink in.
And even if this team wasn't as good as that Milan side - it doesn't have to be. Milan was failing financially - United has the money to fix everything in one window. But that's not going to happen with a bad manager no matter what.
So a solution to previously failed successful managers is to keep the one who's really bad? That's some bad logic mate.
There's been less than 10 games, how can you honestly claim that they're going to be here for a long time or that they're successful? Team is in the worst form in 30 fecking years, them showing a few moments of brilliance doesn't mean anything in the long run.
Other than being a lunatic on the sideline there's nothing Conte is superior to Allegri. That maniacal behavior fizzles out, players get tired of it and need something else and Conte doesn't have it.
He really isn't. It's not even close.
Conte is quite average tactically actually. His main strength is motivation and discipline. That's why players get tired of him quickly because it's the same song over and over again, pushing them to play every game 100%. I can't remember him beating a great European team ever really. He's the only Juventus coach who never beat RM for example.
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Conte is better tactically but his man management is at par to Mou
What a dumb comment, are you in the BNP?
Apart from Klopp and Gardiola, there is no other manager I would like to have right now.
There is no manager in world football other than Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that you would rather have?
Our next manager should be a modern one, enough with the Mourinho and Van Gaal type of appointments.
There’s a load of good young candidates but it’s whether we’re willing to take a risk or not (not as much of a risk as with Solskjaer though) or we’ll revert to type and go for experience.
Not sure that there is a manager anywhere in world football who could be successful at a club run by Ed Woodward.
New managers, new players, new transfer policies - this is all just tantamount to rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic, while our feckwit Vice Chairman is still in charge.
New managers, new players, new transfer policies - this is all just tantamount to rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic, while our feckwit Vice Chairman is still in charge.
Pretty much sums it up for me. I don't see any obviously better managers for Man United at this moment. I'm not saying he's the best manager around, but he's good for us in our current situation.
Sometimes I have arguments with my wife, and I see the neighbor's new wife is fitter, can both iron and cook without complaining, and she even still got her own teeth, but I'm sticking to my current, hoping for better times once again.
I know. The worlds gone mad.
Mate if you’re neighbors wife is on it. Go with you’re neighbors wife. No offence to the wife. But she’s not getting no better. Believe me. I change women all the time. No regrets.
The worst part about it, is that the next manager will get an even more under-coached side than LvG got.