UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority

How did you vote in the 2015 General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 67 20.0%
  • Labour

    Votes: 152 45.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 15 4.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 6.9%
  • SNP

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Did not vote

    Votes: 43 12.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 9 2.7%

  • Total voters
    335
  • Poll closed .
What's your constituency?

For the record, I don't see the difference in your situation, between abstaining and spoiling. Except abstaining saves you a trip out. It all adds up to the same result.
 
Not sure why you'd class voting as selling out. Majority of people didn't even have the option 100 years ago, large swathes of the electorate now wilfully disenfranchising themselves isn't going to improve anything.
Not sure what people in the past not having the right this has to do with it. It's a genuinely good thing that everyone has a vote, but that doesn't imply an expectation that we have to give it to a candidate.
 
Not sure what people in the past not having the right this has to do with it. It's a genuinely good thing that everyone has a vote, but that doesn't come with an expectation that we have to give it to a candidate.
You have a right not to vote, I just don't see the logic in doing so. The best way of getting the political class to ignore and trample over you further is by proudly not voting. See the difference between how pensioners and young people are treated.
 
You have a right not to vote, I just don't see the logic in doing so. The best way of getting the political class to ignore and trample over you further is by proudly not voting. See the difference between how pensioners and young people are treated.
No pride in it mate, just disappointment at politicians and politics as a whole. The only candidate I so much as half agree with might get 10% of the vote if she's lucky, with most of my age group here voting for the winning Labour candidate anyway.
 
You owe it to all the people who fought and died so you could, whether it makes a difference in an individual constituency or not.
 
The right not to vote, or to abstain if you don't agree with any candidates, is just as important as the right to vote. Forcing someone to vote if they don't like any of the candidates isn't very democratic.
 
You owe it to all the people who fought and died so you could, whether it makes a difference in an individual constituency or not.
If we were to actually follow that logic we'd have to do a lot more than vote. And many of those things aren't particularly good.

No, you are willfully, ostentatiously, not participating in it.
And I've got a right to do so.
 
You owe it to all the people who fought and died so you could, whether it makes a difference in an individual constituency or not.
I don't get the logic of 'wasted votes' anyway. If that's the way you see it, every vote is 'wasted' unless a seat is won by just one vote.
 
And I've got a right to do so.

You do, yeah. Certainly. You just don't need to bother to go out and spoil your vote. Nobody cares. They'll just put it in a pile with votes cast by morons who don't understand how to put an x in the box properly. There's not a special pile for people who feel strongly about issues and want to register that by making a point of spoiling it.
 
You do, yeah. Certainly. You just don't need to bother to go out and spoil your vote. Nobody cares. They'll just put it in a pile with votes cast by morons who don't understand how to put an x in the box properly. There's not a special pile for people who feel strongly about issues and want to register that by making a point of spoiling it.
You certainly seem to, otherwise you wouldn't be so determined to prove me wrong.

Coincidentally I will vote, but the argument that I should is completely farcical.
 
Sure thing mate, anyone in particular? May I recommend Chaka Artwell? He's fabulous.

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I will never understand this unless your views are 'I don't give a shit'.
The only way to do that would be to stay at home, not spoil a ballot. It clearly shows you "give a shit" if you are bothered to cast a ballot.

Ballot spoiling expresses a desire not to provide anyone a mandate in a way that can't be dismissed as laziness.
 
@Silva
Have you looked into the constituency policies of the available candidates, would it be possible for you to vote for the individual rather then the party?
 
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Russell Brand has now explicitly backed Labour and urged people to vote for them, if anyone cares.
 
Russell Brand has now explicitly backed Labour and urged people to vote for them, if anyone cares.
It's definitely a positive thing given a lot of young people listen to what he says, and telling people to vote is a far greater message than its opposite. Well done to Ed for actually engaging with the argument rather than just labelling him a joke.
 
It's definitely a positive thing given a lot of young people listen to what he says, and telling people to vote is a far greater message than its opposite. Well done to Ed for actually engaging with the argument rather than just labelling him a joke.
I agree. Fair play to Ed for convincing him and trying to get outside the standard political circles.
 
Except in Brighton, where he is promoting the candidacy of Caroline Lucas. Bunch of hypocrites the lot of them.
How is it hypocritical to encourage people to vote for one candidate based on her record, personality and chances of winning? He mentions in the video that he likes Greens the most but in every other case their candidate is very unlikely to win.
 
How is it hypocritical to encourage people to vote for one candidate based on her record, personality and chances of winning? He mentions in the video that he likes Greens the most but in every other case their candidate is very unlikely to win.

I know that both you and Mike view Ed's interview in a favourable light, however i viewed the whole exercise more cynically, and given some of Lucas' other political beliefs it therefore carries a taint of hypocrisy IMO. When you cosnider the ills for which Labour has been responsible as well as what they intend in the future, Brand's newly professed support betrays much of what he has been espousing of late. It would be more honest were he to promote the spoiling of ballots with a single message, this move simply has him chumming it up with the elites he so despises. Yet if it's all PR and ego anyway...
 
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Just a few thoughts on this Russell Brand endorsement: I wonder if this will be more damaging than positive for Labour, do they really want to associate themselves with someone as radically left wing as Brand? The success of New Labour was appealing to the middle ground, his ideas can only be described as sixth form Marxism. I'm also uneasy with the rhetoric that the Conservatives are somehow dangerous and sinister, isn't that a bit simplistic? I genuinely don't see the last 5 years as akin to the Thatcherite governments that people vilify, it's all been fairly moderate by comparison hasn't it?
 
When you consider the ills for which Labour has been responsible as well as what they intend in the future...

Consider instead why so many working class people despise the Conservative Party...without the get-out that this is merely because of class hatred or plain ignorance. We know the Tories of old - they don't alter, in essence, and so the ills they habitually inflict, and their future plans are what should concern people in general. Dire warnings from history about the supposed evils of New Labour ring rather hollow outside London.
 
I know that both you and Mike view Ed's interview in a favourable light, however i viewed the whole exercise more cynically, and given some of Lucas' other political beliefs it therefore carries a taint of hypocrisy IMO. When you cosnider the ills for which Labour has been responsible as well as what they intend in the future, Brand's newly professed support betrays much of what he has been espousing of late. It would be more honest were he to promote the spoiling of ballots with a single message, this move simply has him chumming it up with the elites he so despises. Yet if it's all PR and ego anyway...
I can understand not liking the interview or thinking the endorsement is a bit rubbish, but I just don't get where hypocrisy enters the arena. His supposed point is that Miliband is willing to listen to ordinary people and govern accordingly, that he isn't beholden to the "elites". You may disagree with him on that, but it's what he seems to think. Miliband's entire leadership has been about trying to rein in some of the groups that are seen as having excessive power over the general citizen, often to derision from both inside and outside of the party.
 
Tory-Lib Dem row over 'Cameron victory' claim



The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are at odds over claims by one of Nick Clegg's allies that David Cameron has admitted he would not win the election.

Lord Scriven suggested the prime minister had made the admission in a private conversation with the Lib Dem leader and deputy PM six weeks ago.

The Tories dismissed the claim, which comes three days before voters go to the polls, as "100% not sure true".

But Labour leader Ed Miliband said the Tories had "conceded" victory.

The spat comes as the party leaders begin a whirlwind 72-hours of campaigning ahead of Thursday's election, with the Conservatives focusing on tax, Labour concentrating on the NHS and Lib Dems trying to shore up support in key marginals sets in south-west London.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32578525
 
Excellent article on what the data's currently saying about the state of the race, and who's likeliest to get into Downing Street in the coming weeks - http://may2015.com/featured/electio...redictions-now-suggest-david-cameron-can-win/

Abridged - likeliest outcome remains that Miliband will just about get in, but there's more than enough uncertainty to suggest that Cameron still has a very decent chance. Main factor they suggest that I think could prove true is that the polls are very slightly off, which in such a tight election could make a lot of difference.
 
Just a few thoughts on this Russell Brand endorsement: I wonder if this will be more damaging than positive for Labour, do they really want to associate themselves with someone as radically left wing as Brand? The success of New Labour was appealing to the middle ground, his ideas can only be described as sixth form Marxism. I'm also uneasy with the rhetoric that the Conservatives are somehow dangerous and sinister, isn't that a bit simplistic? I genuinely don't see the last 5 years as akin to the Thatcherite governments that people vilify, it's all been fairly moderate by comparison hasn't it?
It is bizarre that people can see Labour moved centrist under Blair and then drifted back left a bit under Ed, but they can't countenance any change of tack by the Conservatives. Who'd have thought it would be the Tories introducing gay marriage, for example?
 
It wasn't a Tory govt though was it? It was a coalition so we can't say for certain where the Tories would have been on the spectrum on their own. How many Tories voted for the gay marriage act?
 
It wasn't a Tory govt though was it? It was a coalition so we can't say for certain where the Tories would have been on the spectrum on their own. How many Tories voted for the gay marriage act?
Less than half voted for it.
 
Just a few thoughts on this Russell Brand endorsement: I wonder if this will be more damaging than positive for Labour, do they really want to associate themselves with someone as radically left wing as Brand? The success of New Labour was appealing to the middle ground, his ideas can only be described as sixth form Marxism. I'm also uneasy with the rhetoric that the Conservatives are somehow dangerous and sinister, isn't that a bit simplistic? I genuinely don't see the last 5 years as akin to the Thatcherite governments that people vilify, it's all been fairly moderate by comparison hasn't it?

I don't think there are many people who were going to vote Labour who also dislike Russell Brand enough for it to sway them. I don't think it will gain Labour all that many votes either. For one thing his endorsement has came after people are able to register to vote. He's entitled to change his mind of course, why he has, I can't understand. Because Ed said some things he likes? He said in that very interview that Obama said some nice things and seemed like a vessel for change and then nothing happened.

It is bizarre that people can see Labour moved centrist under Blair and then drifted back left a bit under Ed, but they can't countenance any change of tack by the Conservatives. Who'd have thought it would be the Tories introducing gay marriage, for example?

On social issues sure. Is the economic model they've implemented a shift towards the centre? I don't see that at all.
 
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It wasn't a Tory govt though was it? It was a coalition so we can't say for certain where the Tories would have been on the spectrum on their own. How many Tories voted for the gay marriage act?
You could see Cameron was passionate about driving the legislation through, regardless of opposition from within his own party.
 
The Ukip count in the poll above has gone up a bit.
 
The Ukip count in the poll above has gone up a bit.

And yet there has only been one UKIP voter posting... I guess we have a microcosmic example of the whole "shy Ukipper" thing.
 
on social issues sure. Is the economic model they've implemented a shift towards the centre? I don't see that at all.

More than that. On issues like the NHS, legal aid, education, welfare as well as the economy this government is much further to the right than even thatcher went. Just because it lacks an Iron Lady figure, we shouldn't overlook just how radical this government has been. It certainly isn't centre politics, miles from it. And bear in mind this is even with the lib dems around.
 
On social issues sure. Is the economic model they've implemented a shift towards the centre? I don't see that at all.
The drive remains to push down everyone's tax bills if that's what you mean and Labour still have a fundamental problem with wealth creation, at a simplistic level.
And yet there has only been one UKIP voter posting... I guess we have a microcosmic example of the whole "shy Ukipper" thing.
I guess it's a secret ballot and all, but it is a bit weird. In real life I don't know anyone who openly intends to vote Ukip either.