UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority

How did you vote in the 2015 General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 67 20.0%

  • Labour

    Votes: 152 45.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 15 4.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 23 6.9%

  • SNP

    Votes: 9 2.7%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 11 3.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Did not vote

    Votes: 43 12.8%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 4 1.2%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • Total voters
    335
  • Poll closed .
Ramshock said:
Try to take over 3/4 of the world and then bitch about immigrants when they follow you home. British empire is reaping what it sowed pretty much.
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There's a few problems with St.George Day

.It's on working day which is shite.

.The English stereotypes do have a tinge of xenophobia about them but more than that, they aren't as fun as say a little green man at the end of a rainbow .

.They still have old Queeny to celebrate so really that's where most of the nationalism goes to I think that and U KIP.

But really it's only Paddy's day that gets celebrated anyway(Well at least world wide)and that mainly because of Ireland's biggest export,it's people so it no wonder everyone feels a bit Irish. Also I'm sure it helps that that day is as much about getting pissed as it is about wearing a green hat.

Should say @Ramshock let's berate the English too much,there's plenty of irony to be had about the Irish moaning immigration(I've heard enough of that in taxi's in Dublin).

NewDawnFades said:
He was lacking sincerity already, but Christ. I know it's just a football team but why does anyone believe a single thing the man says about himself?
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I get why some people are conservative, there are some people actively choose to support Liverpool, the world is an odd place at times but how anyone can vote for this weasel really is beyond me.
 
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The party leaders seem to be queuing up to rule out deals of any kind with anybody. It's generally predicted that the leaders that do badly will be out of their jobs, but it's starting to look like the 'winners' might as well, just so others can come in who haven't ruled things out. Apart from Sturgeon of course.
 
Sweet Square said:
There's a few problems with St.George Day

.It's on working day which is shite.

.The English stereotypes do have a tinge of xenophobia about them but more than that, they aren't as fun as say a little green man at the end of a rainbow .

.They still have old Queeny to celebrate so really that's where most of the nationalism goes to I think that and U KIP.

But really it's only Paddy's day that gets celebrated anyway(Well at least world wide)and that mainly because of Ireland's biggest export,it's people so it no wonder everyone feels a bit Irish. Also I'm sure it helps that that day is as much about getting pissed as it is about wearing a green hat.

Should say @Ramshock let's berate the English too much,there's plenty of irony to be had about the Irish moaning immigration(I've heard enough of that in taxi's in Dublin).


I get why some people are conservative, there are some people actively choose to support Liverpool, the world is an odd place at times but how anyone can vote for this weasel really is beyond me.
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Yeah theres a difference between racist taxi drivers and a political party basing its policies on immigration.
 
Ramshock said:
Try to take over 3/4 of the world and then bitch about immigrants when they follow you home. British empire is reaping what it sowed pretty much.
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Never understood this argument. Working class Brits (the people who are actually affected by immigration) can't complain because of the actions of the ruling classes hundreds of years ago?
 
Ramshock said:
Yeah theres a difference between racist taxi drivers and a political party basing its policies on immigration.
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We are going massively off topic but there's a difference between a party with ONE MP and the rest of a nation. Last time I checked the right wing Nazi party Golden Dawn had 16 members of parliament in Greece, yet you wouldn't call Greece a Nazi country(They have actually elected a far left party into government)


soap said:
Never understood this argument. Working class Brits (the people who are actually affected by immigration) can't complain because of the actions of the ruling classes hundreds of years ago?
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Exactly it's such a stupid idea(Which is I thought was a joke at first rather than a legitimate complainant). And the natural question to this where do you draw the line in history.
 
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soap said:
Never understood this argument. Working class Brits (the people who are actually affected by immigration) can't complain because of the actions of the ruling classes hundreds of years ago?
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Perhaps their ire would be better directed at the elites of today who just so happen to be descendants of colonial elites?
 
Mass immigration would have happened with or without the empire. Globalisation was inevitable. As a first world nation with the 2nd largest economy in Europe and the 6th largest in the world, a lot of people want to live here.
 
SteveJ said:
Britain's richest double their wealth in 10 years:
http://www.theguardian.com/business...tains-richest-double-their-wealth-in-10-years
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Can obviously see why people are pissed at that, but also do wonder how much the income earned by poorer folk has risen over the same period. I remember earning £3.10 an hour over a decade ago working at UCI. Now with minimum wage, it would probably be around £7. 'Low earners see wages more than double over the last decade!'.

The article also does itself no favours by outright lying, when surely it has no need to, to play to its audience.

The figure has more than doubled since a total of just under £250bn was recorded in 2005, despite the world economy being gripped by a punishing recession over much of the last decade.
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That just isn't true, is it.
 
Jippy said:
Can obviously see why people are pissed at that, but also do wonder how much the income earned by poorer folk has risen over the same period. I remember earning £3.10 an hour over a decade ago working at UCI. Now with minimum wage, it would probably be around £7. 'Low earners see wages more than double over the last decade!'.

The article also does itself no favours by outright lying, when surely it has no need to, to play to its audience.


That just isn't true, is it.
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I think you'll find it is

Average household incomes are back to where they were before the financial crisis, according to research by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS).

However the think tank also found that incomes for working age people were still below their 2007-08 level, after adjusting for the impact of inflation.
 
I was saying that the global economy spent remarkably little time in recession over the past decade. Asia was still powering on in 2008, for example, when the US and EU were contracting, and Australia didn't actually go into recession during the financial crisis. Moot point maybe, but reflects the inherent bias in that article.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Mass immigration would have happened with or without the empire. Globalisation was inevitable. As a first world nation with the 2nd largest economy in Europe and the 6th largest in the world, a lot of people want to live here.
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I reckon the empire is a big reason why we currently have the 6th largest economy in the world though.
 
Ramshock said:
Try to take over 3/4 of the world and then bitch about immigrants when they follow you home. British empire is reaping what it sowed pretty much.
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Should the same count for Italy then? Or what about Turkey? Or even Mongolia? Let's not forget the Vikings either.
 
Stookie said:
Should the same count for Italy then? Or what about Turkey? Or even Mongolia? Let's not forget the Vikings either.
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The same royal family which was at the helm of the Empire still heads Britain, parliament is still dominated by the same Conservative party...
The Roman empure, the Turkish Caliph, an the Vikings, are only alive in history books.
 
The key immigration wave in terms of size and impact on wages in the UK has been from the 2004 EU accession states. So what's the British Empire go to do with this?
 
Shamwow said:
I reckon the empire is a big reason why we currently have the 6th largest economy in the world though.
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I think Britain being the birth place of the industrial revolution had a little more to do with it. The Empire was a result of British economic success, not the other way around.
 
rednev said:
I think Britain being the birth place of the industrial revolution had a little more to do with it. The Empire was a result of British economic success, not the other way around.
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It doesn't really matter what caused the empire, it still helped the UK with it's status and influence in the world that we have benefitted greatly from.
 
Shamwow said:
It doesn't really matter what caused the empire, it still helped the UK with it's status and influence in the world that we have benefitted greatly from.
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Well yes, it shaped the world. The world would be a very different place if it were not for the British Empire...probably a less prosperous one for all countries.
 
Obviously you've never read The Monkey's Paw, 'nev. ;)
 
Eboue said:
oh boy, here he goes again
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Sorry, I forgot that politically motivated historical revisionism means that I am supposed to abandon my rational interpretation of history and instead form a 'right on' interpretation of it based on what is politically trendy.

SteveJ said:
Obviously you've never read The Monkey's Paw, 'nev. ;)
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No, but I did see the Simpson's Halloween special that covered it. So basically yes, I have.
 
rednev said:
Well yes, it shaped the world. The world would be a very different place if it were not for the British Empire...probably a less prosperous one for all countries.
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Our burden indeed.
 
Anyways

I was talking to a Tory activist and he is totally dialled into the belief that Ed Miliband is going to destroy the country if he gets in, like actually showing genuine fear in his face talking about it.

At the start of the recession it was said that it takes ten years to really out of it. It looks pretty much that is what is happening, as predicted. I get the feeling that the economy will continue to grow no matter who gets in.
 
Equally, why is it a surprise that businesses prefer the Tories when the last Labour government burdened them with so much red tape.

EDIT: Just had a look through the list of signatories. I actually had lunch with one guy on it last Wednesday- good contact. He kept this quiet:lol:
 
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Classical Mechanic said:
Anyways

I was talking to a Tory activist and he is totally dialled into the belief that Ed Miliband is going to destroy the country if he gets in, like actually showing genuine fear in his face talking about it.

At the start of the recession it was said that it takes ten years to really out of it. It looks pretty much that is what is happening, as predicted. I get the feeling that the economy will continue to grow no matter who gets in.
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Is this like those 'my rag mate admits they are shit and don't deserve top four' scenarios?
 
Ramshock said:
Yeah lets not have any repercussions for what happened in history because life works that way
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Life would work better if it did work that way but then it's harder to play the victim. So it's much easier to blame someone else for something that wasn't done by them to someone in the past for all the problems and absolve yourself from events in the present.That works much better,the world improves so much faster and everyone gets to feel much happier.
 
Ed Miliband has said that a Labour government would scrap stamp duty for all first-time buyers on properties worth up to £300,000, in a move that will cost the Treasury £675million.

In a pledge that will be criticised by opponents as unfunded, the Labour leader said that people buying starter homes will save around £2,000 under the plans. Some homebuyers will save as much as £5,000, Labour said.

The £675million pledge will be partly funded by increasing the stamp duty paid by non-EU citizens buying properties in the UK as well as a crackdown on rogue landlords.[/quote

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...o-scrap-stamp-duty-for-first-time-buyers.html
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"Hey, Ed."

"What now?"

"I've just found £675m down the back of the sofa."

"BALLS!""

"No, I'm being serious."


Also, if someone has lived in an area for three years or greater they are to granted a preferential status as a buyer; such a restriction could face some legal challenges.



Rather coincidentally given the Radio 1 interview with David Cameron, a senior DUP figure has been forced to resign following slurs he directed at gay parents. I have been out of the country but understand that this news emerged last week. This Mr Wells, unsatisfied with hate speech, felt the additional need to demonstrate his idiocy in supposing that could get away with at a public hustings.
 
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Media are reporting it that he's resigned due to the comments, but his actual stated reason is due to his wife's health.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Anyways

I was talking to a Tory activist and he is totally dialled into the belief that Ed Miliband is going to destroy the country if he gets in, like actually showing genuine fear in his face talking about it.

At the start of the recession it was said that it takes ten years to really out of it. It looks pretty much that is what is happening, as predicted. I get the feeling that the economy will continue to grow no matter who gets in.
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Exactly right. I said a couple of years ago that whoever won this election would win the next couple as well. If this election were in 2 years time the Conservatives would win a clear majority. Not because they've done anything special, but because any recession takes a few years to come out of and naturally will take a few more years to reach the pockets of the working man. We are starting to see pay increase above inflation which is main thing people care about and irrespective of who's in charge that will continue for the next Parliament.

The parties are that close ideologically nowadays that the Country will come out of recession and start to prosper regardless. Even the policy that on the face of it is divisive (austerity) is actually backed by both the Conservatives and Labour. Both have ring fenced NHS spending and committed to real time increases. Both have somewhat ring fenced education, but both have committed to wiping out the deficit in the next Parliament. Both also have over £10b of unfunded promises.

I've met people on both side of the argument that as you say are genuinely scared of the outcome. Labour supporters who think that the NHS will literally be sold off chunk by chunk to private companies and cease to exist under Cameron and Tory supporters who think Miliband will borrow that much money that we'll turn into Greece. It's utterly ridiculous.

If it wasn't for the historically contrary politics between the two main parties the most obvious coalition would be a Lab-Con one.
 
finneh said:
If it wasn't for the historically contrary politics between the two main parties the most obvious coalition would be a Lab-Con one.
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Despite Labour's depressingly centrist policies there is still enough ideological gap to make that a no-no. If Ed gets in hopefully we'll see why.
 
peterstorey said:
Despite Labour's depressingly centrist policies there is still enough ideological gap to make that a no-no. If Ed gets in hopefully we'll see why.
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It makes it a no-no because of the idiots that are aligned with a party, merely because they are aligned to that party. Some people would never forgive (and ergo vote for them again) Labour if Miliband allied with "the party of Maggie Thatcher" and some Tories would never forgive being allied to "them Communists who want to bankrupt the Country". Unfortunately voters who vote for a party just because their parents did and are apathetic to the parties' policies are a massive portion of the electorate.

The truth is that the difference between the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour makes no real difference to the normal man.

Most people don't like to hear it but if you vote Labour in a couple of weeks, you're a Tory. If you vote Tory, you're a Labour supporter. This is obvious as Labour are always chasing the vote of the c. 8 million Tories in this Country and their policies clearly show this and vice versa.
 
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finneh said:
It makes it a no-no because of the idiots that are aligned with a party, merely because they are aligned to that party. Some people would never forgive (and ergo vote for them again) Labour if Miliband allied with "the party of Maggie Thatcher" and some Tories would never forgive being allied to "them Communists who want to bankrupt the Country". Unfortunately voters who vote for a party just because their parents did and are apathetic to the parties' policies are a massive portion of the electorate.

The truth is that the difference between the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour makes no real difference to the normal man.

Most people don't like to hear it but if you vote Labour in a couple of weeks, you're a Tory. If you vote Tory, you're a Labour supporter. This is obvious as Labour are always chasing the vote of the c. 8 million Tories in this Country and their policies clearly show this and vice versa.
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Not sure pete will agree.
 
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