Snake Plissken
Aka LTS10
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Good to see Anderson in front of him as well.
Looks like he's lost weight
Good to see Anderson in front of him as well.
Would've nipped down the Nags to have a pint with Reckless if I knew he was going to be there. St George's as a national holiday? Has the world gone mad? It is clearly racist to celebrate St George's day.
It'd be an unnecessary distraction for sure. I do wonder how much difference it would really make if we were just EEA rather than full EU. The destabilising impact on the EU is the biggest danger. If we opted out, others might follow.Thanks for the knee-jerk, but I wasn't being party-political, I would have said the same about any party proposing a referendum.
We pray any official document has an executive summary.I reckon it's just Nick and about 10% of the Journalists.
It does look a bit xenophobic. English and nationalist just doesn't work anymore. We gave it a good go, and took over a good chunk of the world, but it went a bit wrong eventually.Would've nipped down the Nags to have a pint with Reckless if I knew he was going to be there. St George's as a national holiday? Has the world gone mad? It is clearly racist to celebrate St George's day.
St George's day was always a total waste of space, even back in the day.It does look a bit xenophobic. English and nationalist just doesn't work anymore. We gave it a good go, and took over a good chunk of the world, but it went a bit wrong eventually.
Ditto. Extra day's holiday would be sweet. Get one for the queen's birthday and any shit we can think of. Hate the way bank holidays run out after August. We need September and October ones.I'd support St George's as a national holiday. Don't really care about the ocassion as much as for the day off. That's a worthier referendum than leaving the EU. UKIP should push for that as its a liklier achievement...
Was a childish argument; think DC was just being polite.
Am not belittling the rights and needs of trans people, but am a bit surprised about the hoohah round this. Given issues as massive as the economy, NHS and social security, it's odd that one of the tiniest minority groups in the country is taking up so much of the debate.Not really, it was raising a salient and important point about how trans people always get forgotten in discussions about LGBT issues. Cameron was right to apologize.
Am not belittling the rights and needs of trans people, but am a bit surprised about the hoohah round this. Given issues as massive as the economy, NHS and social security, it's odd that one of the tiniest minority groups in the country is taking up so much of the debate.
Am not belittling the rights and needs of trans people, but am a bit surprised about the hoohah round this. Given issues as massive as the economy, NHS and social security, it's odd that one of the tiniest minority groups in the country is taking up so much of the debate.
There's at least two here who are openly gay or bi. I think it is actually asking a lot of any PM to know every policy idea etc in-depth, broad brush yes, but that's why we have ministers.I think you'd probably be surprised at the numbers, bear in mind that trans is a blanket term for people in a wide variety of situations, not just transexuals, and also that there are high numbers of trans people who aren't 'out' because of the fear of backlash. The last point goes doubly for internet forums. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single caf member who has come out to the forum as gay, bi, lesbian or trans and, having read the comments on the occasional thread that touches on these issues (like the one on Robert Huth being transphobic), you can certainly see why.
It's easy to forget about at times, especially if you don't move in circles (on the internet or in real-life) where people generally feel comfortable being out, but I'd say it is an important issue for a lot of people right now, especially since there's been notable progress for the rights of LGB people. Back to the thread, ultimately I think its fair to expect any elected official, especially one as high profile as Cameron, to be well-versed in these issues, and fair play to him for holding up his hands when called out.
edit - i'd agree that the discussion probably taking up too much of this thread though, if anyone wants to talk about it more we should probably start a new one.
What's the point in voting Lib Dem to get a Tory government? Might as well cut out the middleman.Ideologically I'd want to vote Lib Dem because the Tories are massive cnuts, and Labour are also (lesser) cnuts (not to mention their candidate in my area is an absolute toolbag), but in my constituency its pretty much a wasted vote since its a Tory-Labour battleground.
I don't know what to do
It does look a bit xenophobic. English and nationalist just doesn't work anymore. We gave it a good go, and took over a good chunk of the world, but it went a bit wrong eventually.
Not really, it was raising a salient and important point about how trans people always get forgotten in discussions about LGBT issues. Cameron was right to apologize.
Am not belittling the rights and needs of trans people, but am a bit surprised about the hoohah round this. Given issues as massive as the economy, NHS and social security, it's odd that one of the tiniest minority groups in the country is taking up so much of the debate.
No it just seems like if you are Scottish and in the wrong gender body, the whole election has been about you.
I think you'd probably be surprised at the numbers, bear in mind that trans is a blanket term for people in a wide variety of situations, not just transexuals, and also that there are high numbers of trans people who aren't 'out' because of the fear of backlash. The last point goes doubly for internet forums. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single caf member who has come out to the forum as gay, bi, lesbian or trans and, having read the comments on the occasional thread that touches on these issues (like the one on Robert Huth being transphobic), you can certainly see why.
It's easy to forget about at times, especially if you don't move in circles (on the internet or in real-life) where people generally feel comfortable being out, but I'd say it is an important issue for a lot of people right now, especially since there's been notable progress for the rights of LGB people. Back to the thread, ultimately I think its fair to expect any elected official, especially one as high profile as Cameron, to be well-versed in these issues, and fair play to him for holding up his hands when called out.
edit - i'd agree that the discussion probably taking up too much of this thread though, if anyone wants to talk about it more we should probably start a new one.
There's at least two here who are openly gay or bi. I think it is actually asking a lot of any PM to know every policy idea etc in-depth, broad brush yes, but that's why we have ministers.
I've already been shouted down on here for saying I've known a trans person, unless you count hostesses on the street hawking cabaret shows in Koh Samui.
You'd think they are exceedingly common if you were an alien reading this thread.
The only ****** I knew really well was also a staunch conservative. This was in the early 90's too when it was proper cnutish conservatism.
Haven't watched yet, was it as hard as DCameron's?
Ed Milibands turn at newsbeat. Quite honestly I felt both programs were much tougher than any of the debates we have had so far!
Haven't watched yet, was it as hard as DCameron's?
My point is that I doubt DC (or anyone for that matter) intentionally tried/tries to marginalise or ignore transgender people. It was just an honest mistake of looking too distant by calling them by an acronym as opposed to the full terminology, which is what he was trying to do IMO.
It's pretty embarrassing. We want our politicians to tell us where they stand, not to pretend to be like the average man. feck letting the average man run the country, that'd be a disaster.Cameron forgetting which football team his briefing notes said he supported
Cameron forgetting which football team his briefing notes said he supported
Man of the people.
It's pretty embarrassing. We want our politicians to tell us where they stand, not to pretend to be like the average man. feck letting the average man run the country, that'd be a disaster.
It does look a bit xenophobic. English and nationalist just doesn't work anymore. We gave it a good go, and took over a good chunk of the world, but it went a bit wrong eventually.