@Grinner Pricisely what pete said. Moving poor people into increasingly shitter and shitter areas (and eventually out of the City altogether) has far wider ramifications (on families, communities, cultures etc) than a mere a statistical boost. Gentrification is already doing it without the need for an official sanction of ghettoisation. It's the first step to that terrible Elysium film. And I don't want that. It was a rubbish film.
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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Heard on the radio earlier that registrations for postal votes has completely smashed previous records. With massive gains in the difficult 18-34 bracket. I wonder if the turn out could be higher than expected this time.
I am tempted to vote Green at this point.
I am tempted to vote Green at this point.
That's all well and good until a bunch of pikies get housed next to you.
In which case you'll be supportive of UKIP's housing policy. Or perhaps the Tories', who provided more council house places in five years than did Labour in thirteen.
Nah, I actually support council housing but that's because I'm well off and don't have to put up with pikies myself. My Nan got a council house in the 1940's and it changed her life.
well atleast someone has worked hard for it (i.e. family etc, and being Conservative I believe they have the right to then pass onto kids, etc)
Its is not possible for the council to sell a property and buy two of the same or half the size for that matter within the same borough.
As opposed to 'Ed the Primrose Hill/Oxbridge/LSE/never had a real job wanker'?
Just listened to this, he truly had an absolute nightmare. It was like something off The Thick Of It.
In most cases its just money and properties handed down in generations and obviously having the upper hand of a golden spoon then not difficult to administer it for generations to come.
In a lot of the cases by exploiting people and trades as it was not so long ago before all the laws started changing...
If memory serves, the Conservative Party's new Right to Buy scheme does have a clause pertaining to such constructions.
It's not just toffs who get upset with council housing policies. The East End was decimated by recent immigration with most of the cockneys moving out to Essex because they couldn't stand all the Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Indians moving in.
Their right to buy is, excuse my language, complete bollox. It will create a bigger house shortage and the housing associations already said that they will mount a legal challenge against it.
It will lead as it has so far, to people buying their council homes at a reduced price before flogging them for huge profits 5 years later.
Cameron on BBC Newsbeat Live Lounge for anyone interested in listening to it making an absolute fool of himself.
Why not? Property prices can vary massively within a borough.
The presenter on the Radio 1 interview actually proposed a £1,000 wager that Cameron wouldn't win the election? The credibility of the interview must suffer as a result.
It was also a bit odd to select LGBT rights as a point of attack, as the introduction of gay marriage is something for which the PM can claim some personal responsibility. What the DUP might believe is neither here nor there, is the same programme going to direct slurs at Miliand over the irrational policies of the Greens or Plaid?
It was also a bit odd to select LGBT rights as a point of attack, as the introduction of gay marriage is something for which the PM can claim some personal responsibility. What the DUP might believe is neither here nor there, is the same programme going to direct slurs at Miliand over the irrational policies of the Greens or Plaid?
The better-off East End moved out 40/50 years ago, long before anybody from the Indian sub-continent arrived there.
Christ, to think that when I moved to London I thought Whitechapel would still have pockets of Victorian charm and character. I lived on Commercial Road for year in Limehouse and it was a dump. The Luftwaffe did their job better than I had expected.
If the Tories couldn't have a functioning majority without the DUP's 8 or 9 seats, why should they not be held up to the same scrutiny that the Conservatives so enjoy giving to the SNP? Let's not forget that half the Tories in parliament voted against equal marriage either.
You're making one of the exact same mistakes that Cameron did - conflating the struggles of the whole LGBT(QA) movement with gay marriage is pretty reductive.
As for the second bit, the question was whether Cameron would rule out standing shoulder to shoulder with a homophobic, transphobic party out of solidarity for NI's LGBT community. Being economically left-wing isn't the same as being bigoted, and neither is it as bad.
Indeed, judging by the general tone of this thread you would think it was a Keele University common room.
really?! The kids were embarrassing, I think DC came out of it better IMHO.
hmm, not sure I buy into that.
Once again, if I earn millions in my lifetime, I'd like the choice of who gets what etc...and if that means my kids live like kings, so be it...not the business of anyone but my family!
Equal rights, coalition, young voters, VAT, feminisim, living wage etc
Half an hour of roasting. It should be on iPlayer soon.
He cocked up big time saying that if charging VAT on tampons was up to me I'd change it tomorrow
The kids were absolutely embarrassing. How feckin rude were they?!
Look, I think DC could've done more as PM, but it's a hard job and the bias in that 'interview' session was just cringeworthy.
Fair enough if that's your opinion. From my point-of-view the kids raised some important issues and Cameron dodged a lot of them. He also made a faux-pas when discussing LGBT issues and resorted to reductio ad absurdam to answer the point about voting age. Not very convincing under any circumstances.
Milliband's doing the same thing on Friday and I imagine he'll have to explain his positions on many of the same issues, if he's more convincing/appealing to a young audience that's not the BBC's fault. The questions were from a studio audience of young people and it was made for Radio 1, not exactly the Tories' target demographic. If Cameron wanted an easy ride he should have gone on BBC3 or Classical FM.
Try the pub before the match
Pols vs teenagers never works out for the candidate. Nobody gives a feck what spotty herberts think and they will become tories in 10 years anyway.
The respective influence of the two parties simply isn't comparable, and the Lib Dems are a far more likely candidate for coalition government. Have there even been any rumours of preliminary talks, as has been the case with UKIP.
Secondly, is there any reason to believe that existing legislation will be repealed?
I'm not doing anything of the sort, in a clip i heard the questioner seemed to be implying that gay marriage would be no more; i can't see Cameron sanctioning that at all. Given his record and moderate status i wouldn't have seen such as my first port of call in an interview.
Again, how likely are the DUP to be coalition government anyway?
Just listened to the Newsbeat interview. The kids were awful, so immature! Disappointed Chris Smith came across so Kay-Burleyesque with his questioning and interruptions, I'm usually a fan of his.
I haven't listened to the show but are kids not supposed to be immature? Newsbeat sounds like a kids show too.
Firstly, it wasn't the first thing in the discourse, the first point raised was about homelessness amongst young people. On the LGBT rights subject, there were two main points made by the audience.
The first was that the DUP had hurt the LGBT community in Northern Ireland and the questioner wanted assurances that, in line with their rhetoric on equality etc., the Tories wouldn't go into coalition with a bunch of homophobes/transphobes.
Cameron then brought up the marriage equality thing and kept pointing to that (missing the point slightly but giving a fair example of gay/lesbian/bi rights legislation under his government.) Another of the audience then made the point that Cameron claiming a good LGBT-rights record on the basis of his support for Equal Marriage meant he was ignoring trans issues. The reason I said you were doing the same thing is because you said it was 'odd' to challenge him on LGBT rights given that he'd brought in gay marriages, which again is an example of ignoring the 'T' in LGBT.
They're not particularly young. From how they described their circumstances I'd guess the age range was about 16-early 20s. One of their questions was asking for the vote for 16-17 year olds, which I'm not necessarily against myself, but I'm not sure they made a great case for it. A lot of their questions were not particularly well informed, which is fine and pretty common, but then when an explanation was given they either just shouted over it or said 'yeah but…[insert random different point forcefully]'
Trannies can get married too though.
Christ.
I see no logic for an in/out EU referendum. There isn't the popular support for leaving that makes a referendum anywhere near necessary.
They always have the best of both worlds.
I don't think that the voting age should be changed, for the reasons you highlighted.
Personality wise I think the momentum is now with Miliband surprisingly, it is amazing how quickly the tone has changed. Radio 4 were reporting that Miliband now is now subject of a website where young women express how much they fancy him.
Aside from the constant denigration/belittling of their existence and the subsequent high suicide rates of course.
edit - probably a discussion for another thread.
Well it's like lezzers, we love the fit ones.