Absolutely. I don't know where some of you live or who you speak to but we're in a bad place at the moment. Maybe it's the death throes of the boomer generation I don't know. They wont be remembered fondly that's for sure.
UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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Absolutely. I don't know where some of you live or who you speak to but we're in a bad place at the moment. Maybe it's the death throes of the boomer generation I don't know. They wont be remembered fondly that's for sure.
Hard left was the wrong choice of words, but Corbyn is definitely seen as way too left by the electorate.
Thats why the bleeting of social media outcries needs to die a fecking death.
Its the only way regular voices can now be heard.
Four Tory governments in a row. Christ.
Pretty sure if you vote for them five times in a row it summons the ghost of Margaret Thatcher to kill you with a hook jammed into the bloody stump of her right arm. Roll on #GE2024.
Pretty sure if you vote for them five times in a row it summons the ghost of Margaret Thatcher to kill you with a hook jammed into the bloody stump of her right arm. Roll on #GE2024.
This interview sums the whole thing up pretty accurately for me
So surely some kind of reasonable centrist is exactly what we need? With Boris and Co pulling further to the right, pulling to the left looks just as unpalatable to the electable.
Are we still blaming older people after this?
What you're advocating is simply giving up. That leftists everywhere should just accept that the right won, and the only realistic options are 'not that far to the right, hunting the poor for sport is still frowned upon' or 'proper right where business owns your fecking soul'.
These are not appealing options to your average left-leaning voter. You can alienate them easily by simply giving them more neoliberalism - and frankly, that's reasonable: if you want that, you might as well vote Tory/Republican/Liberal (in Aus).
And of course a lot of it is simply urban-rural divide and generational divide. In that, demographics are against the conservatives. There should be a shift, eventually - let's hope the world can hold out until then.
It’s because of our echo chambers, like someone pointed out earlier. Go to any post on Facebook regarding Corbyn and watch the middle age morons go mad.
Corbyn may have done even worse than Michael Foot. Just let that sink in.
The flesh of murdered innocents. I have a lamp shade made from the skin of princess Diana.
This is so depressing.
We're reliably informed that the Tories are fecked in future.
It's just how it's trending. You can say whatever about principles, but there's not near enough a population for a left-ist party to win an election. So it's either adopt centrist policies e.g. economically (at least publicly) or stick to your ideas and remain a fringe party.
The thing is, the vast majority of people are normal working people, e.g. families who own a house in some town or city. They don't want to see things like nationalisation and new, untested economic ideas. They want stability, with a moderate rise in living levels (via the NHS, policing etc). Corbyn and co whist well-meaning don't understand this, as well as being extremely uncharismatic as a leader and thus not voteable for. If someone like Obama came along with leftist ideas he'd probably have a better shot at doing well.
Tough break.
Me and my GF have already decided not to go to a big family event this weekend. feck them and what they think. Luckily enough she is a complete convert and agrees with me 100% on these people fecking the country.
The media owns this country.
No offense, but given how emotional politics is right now in this country, I would advise against posting for 'giggles'.
I've seen a few say this, but from their point of view I don't see why not. They'd have a crazy high majority and be in power for the forseeable future.
I just genuinely thought that's what you meant, wasn't trying to be absolute about it for debate purposes.
If the rumours about the Tories looking to change the boundaries are true then it could be difficult either way.
Christ, I bet that nonsense came with a minions meme.
With all due respect, but even lalalands are more grounded in reality than many leftists. Just as the right has gone nuts, the left isn't much better. When you lose one election after another it's time to take a critcial look at your own people instead of labelling and blaming others.
I am not British, and I am not talking about the economic policies and sorry for intruding. I just don't get, and I mentioned that earlier in this thread, how remainers are not uniting for this election and forgetting about their ideological differences, or how you expect someone radical like Corbyn to win!
I am not British, and I am not talking about the economic policies and sorry for intruding. I just don't get, and I mentioned that earlier in this thread, how remainers are not uniting for this election and forgetting about their ideological differences, or how you expect someone radical like Corbyn to win!
Weird. So my constituency is 99% certain to stay SNP. BUT my old constituency is apparently a swing from Labour to SNP...even though there isn't an SNP candidate?!?!
I tend to agree. The Tories just banged their drum that Brexit can be completed asap. Labour couldn't back the current deal, otherwise why did they reject it? If they said they were a leave party and wanted a better deal (with no referendum), I'm not sure the electorate would be keen for a third Brexit deal.
Given the clear backing of Brexit, there's not much more they could have done.
Rightly or wrongly people fear Corbyn but given the projected loss, with a different leader, this just be a smaller loss.
You might be funny if you didn't try with every fibre of your being to make everything you say really hilarious. You're basically Alan Partridge. I feel sorry for you.
I don't get this why do we have to compromise for a progressive, left wing and fairer society?
How can it be this bad? Seriously?
Am I wrong to think Labour was the right choice or is most of Britain outside of their minds? Honestly which is it
Am I wrong to think Labour was the right choice or is most of Britain outside of their minds? Honestly which is it
Where can I see these figures?
Don't think it works for Scotland. I am wary of the 55 figure.
Does she scream "fecking miner" at you whilst doing it?
Yeah, a tough break sounds like a good idea, can't go if you leg is snapped in half.
Thank god for that. Think I've spent too long on this forum as I thought it'd be a hung Parliament.
I should have paid far more attention to my staff in West Brom, Wolverhampton, Bilston, Oldbury, Dudley, Walsall etc. Corbyn's name has become a swear word to them.
I should have paid far more attention to my staff in West Brom, Wolverhampton, Bilston, Oldbury, Dudley, Walsall etc. Corbyn's name has become a swear word to them.
what are the chances of Trump and BJ start talking publicly about NHS being on the table in a matter of days?
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Oh he isn't funny.
BBC has a prediction tool. No idea how accurate it is though.
I am yeah. feck em. They fecked everyone else.
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