UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

How do you intend to vote in the 2019 General Election if eligible?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 30 4.3%

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 73 10.6%

  • DUP

    Votes: 5 0.7%

  • Green

    Votes: 23 3.3%

  • Labour

    Votes: 355 51.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 58 8.4%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 3 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 1.3%

  • SNP

    Votes: 19 2.8%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 0.9%

  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Other (BNP, Change UK, UUP and anyone else that I have forgotten)

    Votes: 10 1.4%

  • Not voting

    Votes: 57 8.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 41 5.9%
  • Total voters
    690
  • Poll closed .
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Parliamentary countries have elections all the time. Expensive and divisive. Only rich countries should adopt that system.
 
ZupZup said:
I mean... I am no expert... but in that picture the weather looks quite nice? People are wearing t-shirts and sunglasses?

If Uxbridge is like this in December, it's my new winter getaway.
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It does seem a bit strange, even kids in t'shirts. I have a scarf and a winter jacket on, there was snow in parts of the uk.

Uxbridge must have it's own Micro Climate.
 
Stanley Road said:
It does seem a bit strange, even kids in t'shirts. I have a scarf and a winter jacket on, there was snow in parts of the uk.

Uxbridge must have it's own Micro Climate.
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https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcptm05c7
The met office report would imply it's not t-shirt sort of weather, we'd need someone in the area to really know for sure though.
The timestamp on that twitter post also says 2:04am. I don't do the twitter, is that as odd as it looks?
 
Mr Pigeon said:
It's going to be an interesting day for sure - probably SNP for West and East (and I've already been told three times this morning that I've given the Tories my vote because I voted Labour and not for the incumbent SNP dude in East, so there's that) but Central will be interesting as it's historically a Labour seat - old Gordon Brown for a while and he sealed it when he got a new hospital built - but the new Labour MP has been divisive. It should still go her way though because there's no SNP candidate (he had to leave the party after saying some rather offensive remarks a couple of weeks back). He's running as an independent though but I don't think too many people will recognise his name without the SNP badge beside it when they turn up and will go for Labour.

So....1/3 seats for Labour? Maybe two as my constituency was only 4% difference between Labour and the winning SNP in 2017.
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Agreed. I think most of my area (the West) will be SNP as you say, and Central is the area I'm most interested to see how they vote. I remember that story you are on about, about the SNP guy. Funnily enough I thought the same, that no one will know who he is without the party badge next to his name.

That's close. I'm worried about my constituency though, in 2017 it was the most closely contested seat in Scotland and the most close since the end of WW2. SNP won but Conservative were second by 0.5%, with Labour in third by a further 0.2%, so the top three split by 0.7%. I find it bizarre that the Conservatives got so much support last time, and I sincerely hope they do much worse this time around.
 
Kinsella said:
Well you have to start with the basic premise that government policies influence human behaviour, and therefore that higher tax rates on individuals (and businesses) do not automatically result in higher revenues for the government. Indeed, history shows that high marginal tax rates on those in the highest earning bracket produces less revenue from said earners for the government. At a certain point, high tax rates on those with high incomes simply led to those incomes being invested in various tax-free schemes, with the revenue from them being completely lost to the government, and the investments lost to the economy.

It all depends on what the rate actually is in other words. The question that should be asked is whether people really prefer the symbolism of higher tax rates, or the substance of higher tax revenue?

All in all, I'd just prefer it if people were much more aware of facts. Then the rhetoric from either side wouldn't hold as much sway.
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Im not an economist but I remember reading of a US CBO study that disproved this and that said lowering marginal tax rates for the wealthy would lead to increased borrowing and higher deficits if not accompanied by significant spending cuts.
 
nickm said:
This kind of analysis is about making labour types feel better about losing. It isn’t a serious attempt to understand why they keep losing. I don’t think they really want to listen.
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it’s all true I’m afraid. It’s proven time & time again that those more intelligent didn’t vote for brexit yet it’s going to screw us all over. Also all the older selfish baby boomers How’s that fair .
They’re in the last throes of their voting cycle anyway- can’t wait til we beg to go back to the EU & have to take the Euro as well
 
Would be nice to be able to escape my Twitter bubble on days like today. It's impossible to get a balanced view of what is happening.
 
Vault Dweller said:
Agreed. I think most of my area (the West) will be SNP as you say, and Central is the area I'm most interested to see how they vote. I remember that story you are on about, about the SNP guy. Funnily enough I thought the same, that no one will know who he is without the party badge next to his name.

That's close. I'm worried about my constituency though, in 2017 it was the most closely contested seat in Scotland and the most close since the end of WW2. SNP won but Conservative were second by 0.5%, with Labour in third by a further 0.2%, so the top three split by 0.7%. I find it bizarre that the Conservatives got so much support last time, and I sincerely hope they do much worse this time around.
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Dunfermline tends to be filled with retirees and old land owners sitting on their porch drinking G&Ts tbf.
 
Raulduke said:
:D
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:drool:

Good ol' Gaz stays reppin' Red

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Stanley Road said:
It does seem a bit strange, even kids in t'shirts. I have a scarf and a winter jacket on, there was snow in parts of the uk.

Uxbridge must have it's own Micro Climate.
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BBC weather says its been 7 degrees or less in Uxbridge all morning and raining. So chances that this photo was taken today = 0
 
VP89 said:
It's stupid mental gymnastics. A lot of Hindus here don't like the supposed labour stance on Kashmir and feel it's against Hindus to sympathise with the situation in Kashmir.
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CassiusClaymore said:
Oh right. I'm gonna message a friend and see if he got them.
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His response - "I didn't but my Dad did and it's turned him I think. All because Labour voted to condemn India annexing Jammu and Kashmir forcibly. Plus two very prominent cabinet members are Hindu so it becomes a whole patriotic thing to support other Hindu's in spite of Pritti Patel being one of the most vile pieces of shit in the Cabinet and that's saying something. Gullible and blindly loyal."
 
decorativeed said:
Was also going to make this point. If people are going to stop doing this extra work due to the tax implications on them, there are plenty of others willing and able to take on that work.
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For certain roles perhaps. But not in my role. If I decide not to work for 10 days, it would be unrealistic for my client to find a temporary replacement, just not possible.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Exactly. You can't agree a deal in just two months.
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If you're referring to Johnson, he didn't agree a deal either, he just altered the 'May' deal very slightly to go back to the position the EU suggested in the first place which was to have the customs border in the Irish Sea.
Johnson won't agree with the EU on the trade deal with the EU either within 11 months.
 
Kaos said:
I mean technically he could just be declared a lord and continue to be PM, but he’d be considered a laughing stock and would realistically resign out of the shame.
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That's presupposing he has any, which I doubt very much.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
For certain roles perhaps. But not in my role. If I decide not to work for 10 days, it would be unrealistic for my client to find a temporary replacement, just not possible.
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We're not just talking about you though, are we? In case you haven't noticed, there's a whole country out there of c70million other people.
 
Don't see the issue with the picture, phone screenshot is taken at 10:03 and uploaded at 10:04
 
Siorac said:
So, erm, what does that mean? Has it become less or more likely according to bookmakers? Is 1 in 3 a weird way of saying odds of 1.33? Shouldn't that be 1 to 3?
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https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/overall-majority
Tory majority best price you can get with a bookie (SportingBet) is 4/11 (1.364).

On the exchange you can lay at 1.35. Small arb opportunity there. Price doesn't seem to have changed much in the last few hours, so not sure what that bloke is going on about.
Can get 59/1 on a labour majority for anyone brave.
 
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