How many times has he said Get Brexit Done, fecking hell. How many years have the Tories had to get "Brexit done!"
How many times has he said Get Brexit Done, fecking hell. How many years have the Tories had to get "Brexit done!"
All of that is fair, the thing is however yeh alternative is a Tory government which has been proven to be pure evil so even if Corbyn can’t deliver at least he’s trying and believes in the right things.If you believe in Corbyn's agenda or believe in a Corbyn-led government, then you've got to hold some sort of hope that there's a general decency to the public and that they're willing to elect someone who wants to alleviate poverty and reduce inequality. Otherwise there's not really any point.
Broadly speaking, a lot of Corbyn's policies are popular. People want to see the NHS properly maintained and value it. In many cases they're broadly in favour of public spending and like the idea of, say, nationalised broadband. But people liking those policies and actually being sold on someone being able to implement them in a way which will work for the country is another matter. A lot of people just don't seem to buy Corbyn as someone who will improve the country, and at this point his arguments feel like they're presented in a way that's fairly repetitive and unimaginative. I dunno, there just seems to be a lot less enthusiasm to him compared to 2017.
I don't think the argument is that Corbyn isn't trying, or doesn't believe in the right things. But a (the?) major part of his job is to win over the public and win elections so that he can enact his party's agenda. He's completely failed at that.All of that is fair, the thing is however yeh alternative is a Tory government which has been proven to be pure evil so even if Corbyn can’t deliver at least he’s trying and believes in the right things.
Nick Robinson has been shit. He’s just letting them both waffle without pressing them on the issues and questions at hand.
Far right politics are all about their slogans.Get Brexit Done
Is anyone at all swayed by these sort of debates? Seems to be a total waste of time.
Same.Feel like such a mug that I keep watching these "debates". Boris saying the same shite, and idiots in the audience still eating it up, he's a genius in a way.
It's the hope that kills you @CassiusClaymore
Same.
Or he's picking the same audience each time!
This is why politics is full of oxbridge debate school types to be fair. Corbyn is good at pushing his own message but he's not a great at debating.
It's frustrating even as someone who backs him that he's unwilling to play dirty in the way Boris is doing with constant lies.
FFS Corbyn was pathetic. People don't respond to him. They needed him to savage Boris and he failed miserably.
Labour had an open goal and they fecked it up. Corbyn fecked it up. This was it - the absolute last opportunity to hold Boris to account for all the lies and push the narrative about him being untrustworthy and he didn't do it. And now we're getting another five years of Tory rule. Well done.
fecking caravan won't be big enough to fit all the people who are disappointed in a week's time.
Labour had an open goal and they fecked it up. Corbyn fecked it up. This was it - the absolute last opportunity to hold Boris to account for all the lies and push the narrative about him being untrustworthy and he didn't do it. And now we're getting another five years of Tory rule. Well done.
fecking caravan won't be big enough to fit all the people who are disappointed in a week's time.
Surely there's no one who doesn't think Corbyn should be out for definite now if he doesn't win this election?
I mean, come on.
Surely there's no one who doesn't think Corbyn should be out for definite now if he doesn't win this election?
I mean, come on.
Really. Didn't know that!Well you say that but they actually moved the debate from Southampton to Maidstone for precisely that reason.