Nope. Hollywood has taught us again and again that you don't mess with time. It has worse consequences.
Besides, it is brave of you to assume that they don't like their present. Maybe they love it. And would change nothing in the past.
Assholes.
Nope. Hollywood has taught us again and again that you don't mess with time. It has worse consequences.
Besides, it is brave of you to assume that they don't like their present. Maybe they love it. And would change nothing in the past.
There is a big difference.
An infinitely big one.
Because for our Universe to be infinitely big, it would probably need to bend back on itself. And it is believed to be flat..
There's been plenty of cases where pilots have seen/experienced objects backed up by radar, as shown in this report - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FIyprY7ynfp_qAdBOFt7t8GPJhvSruc8/view
Are the hundreds/thousands of pilots over the years all making the same mistakes? Even when there's radar evidence to back up their claims?
No, of course they are not all making it up, but some could be confused or fake and many could be alcohol or drugs induced...
About 25 years ago when I was at sea, we were fishing about 6 miles off the French coast (but hey, it's always them stealing our fish from our waters isn't it? ) when all of a sudden a very large unmarked dark grey/blue vessel shot across our bow at a ridiculous speed. It was so close we all shouted and screamed at it and threw big rocks at it that all just clanged and bounced off the sides.
The boat was unlike anything any of us had seen before and was paneled in a way we hadn't seen either. It has no markings l, registration, flags or windows we could see and only one small red light on an Arial at the top of what we presumed was the wheelhouse.
Our skipper poked his head out the wheelhouse and asked what we were all screaming about so we showed him. As it was dark all he saw was a large silhouette disappearing in the near distance at an incredible speed. He checked the radar and nothing was showing within a 4 mile distance.
We often speak about this and many of my mates have seen similar. We definitely think rlwe had a lucky escape as if it had hit us it would have sank us and we were a 150ft near 500 tonne boat.
It was definitely military and almost certainly those test runs have sank boats before and those disasters have just been reported as a loss due to unknown circumstances.
I absolutely guarantee the military from all countries do this on land, sea and in the air. I also guarantee many private defence companies do too.
Seeing as the technology we have as mere livestock is years and sometimes decades behind, I absolutely say that the majority of these sitings are human. Military or private, but almost certainly not alien.
Although I do say without question that we are not alone in the Universe, I just don't think they are here now or have been in recent years.
Secret military programs are a possibility for all of them, but it's just a complete disregard for all the pilots' ability to judge unconventional activity in the sky. They're the most qualified people on the planet to process the situation and weigh up the possibility of it being military or not. There's enough bizarre cases now, stretching back to the 1940s, that you can't just brush it off as them all being potentially confused or drunk.No, of course they are not all making it up, but some could be confused or fake and many could be alcohol or drugs induced...
About 25 years ago when I was at sea, we were fishing about 6 miles off the French coast (but hey, it's always them stealing our fish from our waters isn't it? ) when all of a sudden a very large unmarked dark grey/blue vessel shot across our bow at a ridiculous speed. It was so close we all shouted and screamed at it and threw big rocks at it that all just clanged and bounced off the sides.
The boat was unlike anything any of us had seen before and was paneled in a way we hadn't seen either. It has no markings l, registration, flags or windows we could see and only one small red light on an Arial at the top of what we presumed was the wheelhouse.
Our skipper poked his head out the wheelhouse and asked what we were all screaming about so we showed him. As it was dark all he saw was a large silhouette disappearing in the near distance at an incredible speed. He checked the radar and nothing was showing within a 4 mile distance.
We often speak about this and many of my mates have seen similar. We definitely think rlwe had a lucky escape as if it had hit us it would have sank us and we were a 150ft near 500 tonne boat.
It was definitely military and almost certainly those test runs have sank boats before and those disasters have just been reported as a loss due to unknown circumstances.
I absolutely guarantee the military from all countries do this on land, sea and in the air. I also guarantee many private defence companies do too.
Seeing as the technology we have as mere livestock is years and sometimes decades behind, I absolutely say that the majority of these sitings are human. Military or private, but almost certainly not alien.
Although I do say without question that we are not alone in the Universe, I just don't think they are here now or have been in recent years.
Where did you get the rocks?
The boat obviously rocked from the waves.Where did you get the rocks?
We were scalloping, (18 spring loaded dredges each side)
All you catch is fecking rocks usually around 4 to 8 tonnes every hour and a half.
Secret military programs are a possibility for all of them, but it's just a complete disregard for all the pilots' ability to judge unconventional activity in the sky. They're the most qualified people on the planet to process the situation and weigh up the possibility of it being military or not. There's enough bizarre cases now, stretching back to the 1940s, that you can't just brush it off as them all being potentially confused or drunk.
There's a whole section going into detail about the electromagnetic effects pilots have experienced when the alleged UFO came close to them, backed up with them physically seeing the object and its unconventional behaviour. Again, this could be military but as it stands theres no evidence of any aerial vehicle being able to do such things. The unconventional behaviour pilots are experiencing today match up to the cases as far back as the 40s and 50s, it doesn't quite add up.
I get that but remain sceptical. It's like the guy giving evidence before Congress was clearly a bit off, the same as one of the main people the Beyond the Curve flat earth documentary focused on was an ex NASA employee....
Just because you are intelligent or in the the percentage of your field, doesn't mean you can't be batshit crazy too.
I do agree that it doesn't add up, but neither does the fact the vast majority of all these sightings and reports are from the USA. I still put my money on secret testing of top secret technology.
I think I've said in this thread before but the chances of alien technology as artifacts being found on earth would be significantly more likely than active aliens.
Aren't we lucky that the aliens and all UFO related sightings happened to happen in 'Murica.
As far as I know a flat, infinite universe is perfectly possible.
Secret military programs are a possibility for all of them, but it's just a complete disregard for all the pilots' ability to judge unconventional activity in the sky. They're the most qualified people on the planet to process the situation and weigh up the possibility of it being military or not. There's enough bizarre cases now, stretching back to the 1940s, that you can't just brush it off as them all being potentially confused or drunk.
There's a whole section going into detail about the electromagnetic effects pilots have experienced when the alleged UFO came close to them, backed up with them physically seeing the object and its unconventional behaviour. Again, this could be military but as it stands theres no evidence of any aerial vehicle being able to do such things. The unconventional behaviour pilots are experiencing today match up to the cases as far back as the 40s and 50s, it doesn't quite add up.
Ok thanks for that.
I must be a bit dim because I struggle with a flat expanding infinate Universe.
Dont think anyone does. Now i just thought about it for a minute and my head hurts.Oh I don't remotely understand it myself, I just take astrophysicists on their word when they say it might be the one we're living in.
You know it happens around the world and has done for decadesAren't we lucky that the aliens and all UFO related sightings happened to happen in 'Murica.
You know it happens around the world and has done for decades
https://mitechnews.com/guest-columns/ufo-sightings-which-country-has-the-most/there was a study done that showed 92% of sightings are in the USA
for context USA consists of 4% of the worlds population
Keep fightin' the good fightMerge this into my thread. This thread is inferior
Because that would be irresponsible (and highly disrespectful) given the context. The options are confused, drunk or liar as a possible explanation for the list of electromagnetic effects on the vehicle when they get close, stretched across 81 individual cases amongst military, commercial and private pilots. Why can’t it be taken more seriously?or lying.
but why can't you?
Its a cool idea but as Stephen Hawking proved time travel is not possible, especially in the past. In my opinion wich of course is not based on facts these UFOs are probably probes of some sort left to check and maintain the balance and the course of this planet. They are running with the help of AI and possibly robots only interested in their task so no wonder why the UFOs are actually NOT interested in contact with humans. All stories of contacts and communication with some kind of nonhuman beings are FAKE.
Because that would be irresponsible (and highly disrespectful) given the context. The options are confused, drunk or liar as a possible explanation for the list of electromagnetic effects on the vehicle when they get close, stretched across 81 individual cases amongst military, commercial and private pilots. Why can’t it be taken more seriously?
Because that would be irresponsible (and highly disrespectful) given the context. The options are confused, drunk or liar as a possible explanation for the list of electromagnetic effects on the vehicle when they get close, stretched across 81 individual cases amongst military, commercial and private pilots. Why can’t it be taken more seriously?
Given some of the posts on the CAF are you sure intelligent is the right word to useI am 100% sure we aren't the only intelligent life out there but not convinced we have been visited by others.
I believe all of them experienced something, why would they collectively lie? To be called confused, a drunk or a liar?How many of them do you believe are real?
I believe all of them experienced something, why would they collectively lie? To be called confused, a drunk or a liar?
Because that would be irresponsible (and highly disrespectful) given the context. The options are confused, drunk or liar as a possible explanation for the list of electromagnetic effects on the vehicle when they get close, stretched across 81 individual cases amongst military, commercial and private pilots. Why can’t it be taken more seriously?
Show me the reports and research papers please.How seriously are you taking reports of people speaking directly with God (and that God speaks back)? Or who claim to have seen fairies (like Arthur Conan Doyle did), or that magic is real, or that homeopathy works, or that vaccines don't work? There are many of all of those, and all of the groups also include many intelligent, otherwise rational and trustworthy people. Why can't it be taken more seriously?
Show me the reports and research papers please.
Given some of the posts on the CAF are you sure intelligent is the right word to use
Not at all.So if I find you research papers that suggest that homeopathy works, you will then believe that it's real?
I think it’s enough accounts to consider them actually experiencing electromagnetic effects as a possibility.Everyone experiences something, all of the time. How many of the 81 do you think saw what they say they believe they saw?