Dobbs
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He was aware of it despite the fact he was looking in the opposite direction....
That's really poor from Rooney. If he meant it or not it's wrong to lie in order to get a player into trouble.
He was aware of it despite the fact he was looking in the opposite direction....
No, I don't think so. As he is jumping, he isnt looking at Ibrahimovic or when he plants his foot. In the first replay you can see that he is watching the ball 95% of the time, he only looks for a microsecond where the players on the ground are, but he just makes a terrible jump, not being in balance, half falling over Rooney, trying to rush back in defence. Its not a situation where he thinks, oh this is a great moment to stamp Ibra. Im sure the only thing on his mind was getting the ball out of the box. Looking at his demeanor/actions. Its just a unfornuante and very ugly accident. But this one just isnt intentional. Just look at him. He has almost only eye for the ball. He shouldve still received a red card obv.
Someone could've told him or he saw it at half time.He was aware of it despite the fact he was looking in the opposite direction....
That's really poor from Rooney. If he meant it or not it's wrong to lie in order to get a player into trouble.
They all do it, he's sticking up for his team-mate who would have told him what happened (or he saw a video replay in the dressing room). It's funny in this case because he is so blatantly lying.
I'm sure it wouldn't have been difficult for Zlatan to make those around him aware that he's just been stamped on the head.He was aware of it despite the fact he was looking in the opposite direction....
That's really poor from Rooney. If he meant it or not it's wrong to lie in order to get a player into trouble.
I like the way Rooney said he saw the stamp. The Replay shows him looking in the complete opposite direction whilst appealing for a foul.
Lying about being aware of it? Perhaps Zlatan told him or another player or they watched it at half time on the monitors?
Like i said. Look at the second replay. He stands up, his right foot slips. he tries to recover by placing his leg way to wide and even hitting Rooney in the process(almost stamping on his hand), being completely off balance. And then still goes for the "jump". Thats not a good indicator for a regular jump. No one can make a proper jump like that, being in the position that he was. So he shouldve never went for it and shouldve received a red card. But he didnt try to stamp him on purpose thats for sure.Go jump over someone and tell me where your leg lands
Of course they can, they won't though. You could report it to the police yourself if you wanted to, would be very interesting to see how they would react.Can we consider criminal action as a club? I mean if that was on the streets that would be common assault.
I thought he came across pretty well in that post-game interview, which annoyed me a little bit.He's massive cnut. The stamp was bad enough but that interview made him look like an even bigger twat. Should have let Fellaini lose on the thug.
I think it's ridiculous to say that stamp was intentional. He was just trying to jump over him going forward and happened to catch his head.
my godI think it's ridiculous to say that stamp was intentional. He was just trying to jump over him going forward and happened to catch his head.
Of course they can, they won't though. You could report it to the police yourself if you wanted to, would be very interesting to see how they would react.
Perfect analasys, I can't believe how some actually think he would intentionaly try to stamp him.No, I don't think so. As he is jumping, he isnt looking at Ibrahimovic or when he plants his foot. In the first replay you can see that he is watching the ball 95% of the time, he only looks for a microsecond where the players on the ground are, but he just makes a terrible jump, not being in balance, half falling over Rooney, trying to rush back in defence. Its not a situation where he thinks, oh this is a great moment to stamp Ibra. Im sure the only thing on his mind was getting the ball out of the box. Looking at his demeanor/actions. Its just a unforntuante and very ugly accident. But this one just isnt intentional. Just look at him. He has almost only eye for the ball. He shouldve still received a red card obv. And an elbow was justified since that one must have hurt.
Edit: But if you look at the first replay. He isnt watching Ibrahimovic. Only the ball. He just get ups after a tackle. Furiously looking where the ball is going and tries to get back as fast a possible. You cant tell me that he in that second also thought. He lets stamp Ibra. He hardly notices Ibra being there. Being so off balance he just makes a terrible jump and hits him right on the head.
Edit 2: See his right foot in the second replay before he jumps? His leg is colliding with Rooney. @ least you see him getting off balance but still trying to rush back he makes the jump anyway and hits Ibra, So its a red card. It was a risk he wasnt allowed to take. But intentional no way. Im disappointed too in todays result. But i think the match as a whole, how weird it was maybe clouding our jugdement a bit.
6 games ban for him and 3 for Ibra. It should be the best decision, imo.
Where do you see him even looking at Ibra? He was looking at the ball the whole time.my god
I think this route should be explored. There must have been cases in the past where criminal complaints were filled.
Looks far from intentional. Looked like a standard fellaini type tussle, if you take it in isolation (ignoring the fact he got stamped by the same cnut on the head).
Ibra should not be banned, the Ref dealt with the incident on the pitch and spoke to him.
If Ibra gets banned, it goes against the FAs own rules.
Duncan Ferguson got jailed for an incident on the pitch. That was in Scotland though.I think this route should be explored. There must have been cases in the past where criminal complaints were filled.
Don't think that would be very smart cause Zlatan went for revenge. Also it probably can't be proven 100% that it was intentional.I think this route should be explored. There must have been cases in the past where criminal complaints were filled.
Different situation of course but that's what started the John Terry racial abuse court case (a QPR fan complained to the police).
We have the world's first mind reading footballer if he knew he had to jump but didn't look to see Ibra on the floor. Forget banning him he should be the starting point of the FA's X-Men.Where do you see him even looking at Ibra? He was looking at the ball the whole time.
And it's perfecty fine that this includes Zlatan's head?His could argue he's trying to take the quickest route back to goal to do his job. I do think it was intentional but it's not a slam dunk case like Zlatan's elbow.
He's looking at Zlatan the whole time and doesn't bother to even stop when the ball is away to acknowledge what he did.There's no debate. When you jump over someone, you stretch your leg forward so it lands in front of you. He intentionally plants his leg behind him, because he had knew he wants to stamp his head.
Go jump over someone and see where your leg lands.