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I think it will be true. It sounds exactly like Italian clubs to try and make this type of deal.
When only 60% of fans know you play in goal, it's definitely time to pack it in.
It would be annoying but given he is likely on over £100k it's pretty unavoidable unless he goes to a rich club who don't care. They know that if no one meets our sale valuation then they can get us to pay some of the wages because it's better than us paying all his wages without planning to use him.
I agree, Van Gaal might think differently though.
The idea is he goes somewhere where he's wanted (which wouldn't be here if we're willing to let him go) where he'll play, hopefully impress which will either lead to Napoli signing him permanently or someone else will have been impressed and he'll go there.
Even if he flops at Napoli him not being at United next season can only be good for us
Sell him off to who? Not many clubs can afford to pay £100k per wages to even their star players - let alone the likes of Fellaini - and those that could won't remotely want him at that sort of cost. And there's no reason why he should or will accept a wage cut.
United basically made a very bad deal with Everton and now you're stuck with the consequences for the next few years.
Just sell him for a decent/low-ish price and be done with his wages for good. Get £10m for him and cut our losses if he's not wanted. I'd rather him stay as part of the squad than pay him £50k a week to go to Naples.
Is it? What's £50k a week over a season to us? A couple of million saved for him to play elsewhere whilst still costing us a couple of million in wages for the year?
Wowee.
Just fecking sell him at whatever fee we can get, or keep him as backup in the hope we never need him. Pointless deal.
I'd rather loan him to a club who'd play him off the striker as well as pay his wages.
You think any of us don't know we made a bad deal with Everton?
What's the point in sending him on loan while still paying him? He might as well sit on the bench here.
The Felliani deal (if it happens) feels very similar to Anderson deal who went to Italy and came back without doing anything and now United might have to make a loss by selling him. Hopefully as you say, he does well and is brought on a permanent basis.
Still though, could be worse. We could've sold our best player and bought 7 Fellainis, then be stuck with the consequences of that.
He's definitely worth more than £10m though, if he has a good loan spell then his value could go back to the £15-18m mark that he's probably worth, so whilst it's very frustrating to have to still pay for him, in the long term it might work out, as if he stays here and doesn't play then we're paying full whack for him and he's not going to regain value at all. Hopefully we can find someone who's willing to pay close to our valuation ideally but if not don't see why we need to sell him at a massive loss.
We have 5 midfielders, one is injured, one is average, one is coming back from a serious illness, one hasn't kicked a ball in the premier league yet, and one is a useless microphone headed feck.
Why loan the big shite out while paying his ridiculous wages, when we're already short?
If this happens I can't believe we're not signing at least 2 midfielders.
Not many clubs will be willing to pay £10m+ and his wages after the season he's had. At least if he's out on loan, he might get regular football and we might get something for him. Right now it looks like we'll have the same problem as we did with Young.
Difference I guess is that Fellaini has a proven record of being an effective player in the right set up/role that was never right for us but could be for another team, as poor a signing as he was I think he's got a lot more going for him than Ando did who had/has problems with fitness let alone his impact on games.
I doubt this deal will happen unless they pay more of his wages.
Give him to Juventus as a gesture of goodwill when we sign Vidal.
Fellaini is irrelevant to our central midfield woes, if van Gaal were to ever use him - it'd be as the #10.
Comparing the likes of Eriksen, Lamela, Soldado, Paulinho (etc) to Fellaini doesn't wash I'm afraid. Most of them will play key parts in Spurs' season this time around, whilst Fellaini is just an unwanted donkey. Unless you heavily subsidise his wages I'll be surprised if there any takers.
Yep. Fellaini doesn't fit here but he isn't as bad a player as some make out either.
Fellaini probably won't be able to play in what's probably his best position just off the striker, as Napoli have just loaned Michu. The worry is that he struggles there as a CM and his value decreases even more, then we're stuck with him.
Yes point noted. I am not really aware of now Napoli are setup. Wasn't felliani played almost as a second striker at Everton to get the best out of him? Will he be able to command such a position at Napoli?
No, I think Hamsik plays off Higuain.
We need Moyes back in a job pronto, if we are to get rid of him. I doubt this 50/50 deal is as reported though.
I don't think it would decrease more because he's definitely worth 10+ goals as an a/m for a PL team which for a midtable team up is a valuable asset. He's worth over £10m at least unless something disastrous happens I reckon.
I've no idea tbh but I doubt they'd be interested if they didn't have a place in mind. I think though that there's surely some PL teams who could pay at least £50k a week for him that would take him as well, though he might push for Napoli himself due to CL.
Fellaini is shite, every United fan will admit that but Jesus look at the players you just listed, makes the 27m we paid for Fellaini look good in comparison. Eriksen aside, the rest are mediocre at best. I mean you paid a similar fee for Lamela and he played about 3 games, he won't get any better at Spurs he clearly doesn't want to be there.
Alright, then don't send him on loan ... what do I care? I was replying to a poster who said "just sell him" and pointing out that you probably won't be able to sell him because of his wages (or not unless the sale fee is dirt cheap, like 4m say).
Still, 1 underwhelming summer purchase is better than 6 (Eriksen obviously not included).
Could well be the case, and Vidal is probably waiting on United making a bid first before expressing that desire to leave. Juventus meanwhile are hoping someone does something, anything to move this deal forward one way or another.
Its becoming eerily similar to the Sneijder saga.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about - Lamela is well up for playing at Spurs this season and will certainly be a first choice starter under Pochettino. I expect him to thrive. But beyond this I honestly can't be bothered to reply further. Good luck with the donkey.
Ouch. The GlastonSpur kiss of death.
100k a week for Fellaini... fecking hell. What an earth happened to our transfer policy the last few years. Could have a Malouda on our hands I seem to remember Chelsea stuck with him taking home 100k odd a week with no buyers willing to pay the wages.
I've watched Lamela play about 20 games at Roma and he looked good, that doesn't mean he will make it in the PL though, he looked scared shitless in the games he played for Spurs last season, surely he's one of the worst signings made in recent years (along with Fellaini).
We made one shit signing for 27m, Spurs spunked 100m on shit, you're hardly in a position to gloat but when you have a genius like Levy in charge of transfers all is good, right?
We made one shit signing for 27m, Spurs spunked 100m on shit, you're hardly in a position to gloat but when you have a genius like Levy in charge of transfers all is good, right?
He's every bit as bad as everyone makes out.
I'll take it. Can we have it in used £50 notes?
Who about what, Spurs fan about transfers.
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