Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation
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Someone really needs to make that gif!Hasn't stopped him yet. Just ask Stormy Daniels
Buttery mails!
I see references to unnamed Campaign Officials #1-3 on pages 27-29
Trump never likes to admit he's wrong. But he now needs to come out and say that Russia tried to interfere in the election. Sarah's press conference should be fun
This is awesome.....two people flipping to FBI, Stormy Daniels talking, Playboy girl throwing him under the buss and now this news...what a fecking week....and what a great weekend we have ahead.
Bleachbit.
I asked Barron who is very good at the cyber you know very good and he said Hillary bleached 130 Russians purple but the media never talks about my big wins never talks about them now never fake news media so anyway I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time but to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em “Give me five bees for a quarter,” you’d say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, MS13...
I asked Barron who is very good at the cyber you know very good and he said Hillary bleached 130 Russians purple but the media never talks about my big wins never talks about them now never fake news media so anyway I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time but to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em “Give me five bees for a quarter,” you’d say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, MS13...
He would rather die than admit to it.
Someone should tape a P on it.
This ties into the claim by Trumpers, which is legitimate were it true, that candidates work with foreign governments all the time and there's nothing unique about this.
Also, by extension, could feed into an Obstruction of Justice case. But I might be reading too much into it.
Just read the comments. They're not buying it. They're turning it all on Hillary and saying it has NOTHING to do with Trump.
When shit goes down they're not gonna take it.
If those that are charged are proven guilty then that wouldn't be a fair election, surely?
What then?
Another election?
I don't see how Trump could stay in office if it's proven beyond reasonable doubt that he had illegal help to win the election. But then I don't know a great deal about American politics.
What then?
Another election?
I don't see how Trump could stay in office if it's proven beyond reasonable doubt that he had illegal help to win the election. But then I don't know a great deal about American politics.
have to ask the same questions about the Brexit vote.
His burning idiocy knows no bounds
Wonderful, good luck firing Mueller now
So if he admitted to Russia conducting an anti-US campaign, then where is his hostility to them in the same way he was hostile to other "anti-US" folks like Kaepernick and co? *Lingard's voice* Hmmm?
It just goes to show how unaccountable he is. When was the last time you saw him answer a difficult question? He’s never in that position.
This will be decided by blood and iron
In that report? Very little. Im happy to use induce that there is underlying intelligence though. The IRA have long been known to work on behalf of the Russian government.
I don't fully understand what you mean by 'induce'. If it's the verb for inductive reasoning I don't think that's enough for the Trump Administration to enact sanction even though I think your position to assume them to be govt. actors is fair enough.
The organization that did the work is linked to a Putin ally.
"linked"?
Yep, logic, derive by inductive reasoning.
This is the court of public opinion, beyond reasonable doubt is adequate. If you can look at the mountains of evidence and still think “well I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt” you must live in blissful ignorance.
Who do you mean by him, Trump? I'm not talking about Trump in general, I'm talking about the case for sanctions based on these 13 Russians. I feel that sanctions, punishing a certain country, should only be applied if the country has done wrong which it hasn't when these Russians were mere criminals (not even necessarily operating out of Russia).
I also don't understand what you mean by that: "This is the court of public opinion, beyond reasonable doubt is adequate." Beyond reasonable doubt is enough in a judicial court.
Thanks @Raoul for the link. So aside from the two Russian opposition members which probably aren't the strongest evidence it also says:
"Mr. Prigozhin’s critics — including opposition politicians, journalists and activists, the United States Treasury and now Mr. Mueller — say he has emerged as Mr. Putin’s go-to oligarch for that [IRA troll farms] and a variety of sensitive and often-unsavory missions, like recruiting contract soldiers to fight in Ukraine and Syria."
which - if worded carefully by the author - makes it fair imo to call for sanctions.
Almost everyone connected with Putin is under heavy sanctions since 2014 Ukraine. There were further diplomatic sanctions - cutting of staff in each other's embassies - in December 2016 and after, well into Trump's reign. This has meant, for example, that Russian students with admission in US colleges have not been able to attend since visas are not being issued.
Edit - also wanted to note how difficult it was to find that article via google - "Russia sanctions US", "students affected US-Russia sanctions", and other such searches all produced the same results: sanctions after Crimea, sanctions in 2016 by Obama, calls for more sanctions by Dems and McCain, and how Trump is refusing to issue sanctions. Almost nothing about the wide scope of existing ones.
All his crows are coming home to roost at once.