Which is why I'm leaning 99% towards the pardon bit. Only way he could be confident of a hung jury is if there's an avid Trump supporter on it who thinks it is all a witch hunt.
Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation
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What would be the (likely) fallout if Trump pardons Manafort?
Yeah that makes sense. It would have been incredibly lax of the prosecution to have missed that during jury selection though. Makes me think there must have been pardon conversations. Surely for the crimes he’s accused of though, even Trump wouldn’t have the balls to pardon.
Going off the past few years; feck all.
Feck's sake... 
Michael Avenatti will say basta. Some other moron will publish a book about Trump being a cnut and he will be reelected in 2020 I reckon.
I dont get the pardon bit too much as Manafort will be charged at state level after. Also Manafort has a Trial against him waiting in D.C. for money laundering and failure to register as a foreign agent.
Trump has explicitly stated that the crimes were committed before Manafort began working for him. It makes no sense for him to pardon him therefore.
Seems to me it'll have become unlikely to have 12 jurors that all aren't Trump-zombies. And I guess you just need one.
People need to get used to Trump pardoning left right and centre. He also wont be brought down by this investigation. He can only be stopped in the next election unfortunately.
Manafort is clearly angling for a pardon as he knows he can't flip because the Russians will come after him or his family if he provides Mueller with the information he wants.
Well, I don't know if we can say "clearly" about all of that.
It could be Ukrainians who'll come after him.
It would likely be Russians since they were Yanukovich's sponsors plus Manafort has plenty of relations with actual Russian oligarchs.
I jest. Real life is like a cheap spy thriller movie in the states at the moment.
Yeah Manafort definitely prefers American prison in case he is not pardoned , to having to watch his back for the Russian mob.
Fixed it for you, though there probably is some equivalence there.
The definition of mafia implies links to the government, I believe.
It's Russia, so there was no correction needed.
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Surely the Russian mob/oligarchs/government could still get to him in a US prison if he's not isolated 24/7.
The idea is he doesn't snitch and goes to prison.
Another broadcast from the Trump Bunker:
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
The Rigged Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on as the “originators and founders” of this scam continue to be fired and demoted for their corrupt and illegal activity. All credibility is gone from this terrible Hoax, and much more will be lost as it proceeds. No Collusion!
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
The Rigged Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on as the “originators and founders” of this scam continue to be fired and demoted for their corrupt and illegal activity. All credibility is gone from this terrible Hoax, and much more will be lost as it proceeds. No Collusion!
Is this real?
It's certainly surreal.
Same old, same old...
Anytime there's an official investigation into something dodgy, the guilty parties start moanng about cost, and pushing for swift conclusions.
Anytime there's an official investigation into something dodgy, the guilty parties start moanng about cost, and pushing for swift conclusions.
It's like he swapped his hair for Trump's teeth.
"unload"
NDA for Bob and $130,000 of hush money.
The caf doesn't have the "hmm" emoji, which would have worked better with my reply. I've watched far too much porn
Ah, I remember ye olde days* when Trump stated that he "doesn't like to get involved" in commenting on the investigation...
*Last month.
*Last month.
He's a tremendously dynamic individual, Steve. He's already done more for the US than all the other presidents combined. No collusion!
Did you mean 'USSR', mate?
Doh, in Russian.