Why would Spanish media break this news?
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Why would Spanish media break this news?
those signings arent replacing anybody they are addressing our weaknesses. im talking about replacing players who are world class with relatively average players.
thanks. im referring to the holes being plugged in once they are created. im not ignoring the singings that have been made to address the holes that have already existed.
Spot on, it's annoying how negative some are reacting...
We're building a strong squad full of players who want to play for Manchester United, I have no complaints so far.
If Cillessen does get signed half of RedCafe will already be on his back without having kicked a ball, which is very disappointing.
Who would decide what is a valid reason if not the organisation of the competition itself? Is that the intended role of the EU in all this, to rubber stamp the decision of UEFA? I've not followed this legal challenge as it sounded like nonsense to start with, but here we are.
That's a shite fee.
Is that around a £10-15m hit?
FFP's already done its worst to City and PSG with the restrictions put in place last season. Now, City and PSG will continue to progress while complying with the regulations. Honestly, FFP is going to work to the clubs advantage in the long run because it's closing off the same route to success for other teams.
im referring to the holes in our squad that are created by the departure of players not the ones tht already existed. schneiderlin, schweini and darmian were needed. But replacing world class talent with average players is going to worry any fan.
If we'd rather just move him on, it's understandable.
The same La Parisien that said Di Maria would be a PSG Player by the weekend just been?
This stuff really makes no sense, it's almost like they're rehashing old stories just for the fun of it. If we weren't going to accept €65m a week ago, why the hell would we accept it now? Expect nothing to happen by Friday and then another story saying United are greedy and stubborn etc...
Well it depends on how much we gave upfront, how much bonuses were included etc..
If some of the money was bonus related, then we won't be paying that so...
Nope.
Three of the players you mentioned there had absolutely torrid seasons, whilst the other is desperate to get away.
Not too sure many United fans will have huge complaints if we don't sign what you call a big player, especially since we've looked to improve areas of the pitch we've been lacking in over recent years with some decent signings.
I think it's just the petulant vocal minority who are desperate for a supposed big name so they can wank themselves to sleep.
While they don't get the timing right, Le Parisien tend to get transfers right. I think there is something to this.
UEFA can make up their own rules as long as they comply with EU law. If they don't, such as the manner in which FFP superficially does, then they can be subject to legal challenges.
£50 million, there or there abouts, is a solid fee for a player coming off the back of a disappointing season.
The fee we paid initially was paid in desperation, with only a week left of the window to boot.
Honestly, it's a very good fee. Closer to his probable, rightful valuation.
The fee we paid initially was paid in desperation, with only a week left of the window to boot.
Honestly, it's a very good fee. Closer to his probable, rightful valuation.
You named Falcao, di Maria and RVP as world class players based on reputation and past performances alone, none of them were anywhere near that last season. RVP and Falcao are hardly going to get back there at this point in their careers and di Maria showed no guarantee of ever being the player we thought we were buying.
Pedro is not average, you don't play that many games and win that many trophies with one of the best teams of our generation by being average. He's been displaced by Neymar and Suarez ffs, it's hardly a blot on his record. He may not have quite the same abilities as di Maria has/had but writing him off as average is plain silly.
I just don't see it. We're not going to take a huge hit on a player after 1 season. It's going to be a case of either cough up the cash, which we know they have, or throw in a good player. It'd be stupid to sell him after one season at a huge loss. There'd be no need at all. Di Maria has already said he doesn't want to give up on the Premier League just yet hasn't he?
Seems so. If true, I am disappointed with Woodward here. PSG is one of the few clubs that would gladly overpay for a big name player. I mean its the same club that signed David Luiz for that ridiculous fee ffs.
i think its delusional to think that cillisen is anywhere near the class of de gea or pedro being as good as di maria. in any case selling your record signing the very next year doesnt make sense either.
Didn't say either of those things, but okay.
Well you're right no one is delusional to think Cillisen is as good as DDG and no one has said that. Also do you know everything that has happened behind the scenes?
thats not really an argument is it? something is strange if we are replacing de gea with cillisen and di maria with pedro. if thats laughable to you then i guess..keep laughing.
Well we weren't going to get the full fee back after last season, I'd say £50m is a decent fee to be honest. A £9m hit but we could possibly save that if the initial fee was partly bonus based.
If true then we're not just making a loss in terms of £ (which MIGHT be explained by the falling value of the €) but I think the fee we paid Real in € last summer was €75m, so we're even fecked in terms of Euros. A shocking deal for us all over (if true).
Depends on bonuses and how much we paid up front. Doubt he'd have fulfilled any of the bonuses and from what I read we paid about £45-50m without the bonuses so if it is true - the French outlets have been saying it'll be announced every weekend for the past few weeks or so now so I'm skeptical - the loss will probably be wages and a bit of the transfer fee due to how the Euro is doing.
Your post is laughable and embarrassing in the same time, that's why I'm laughing.
Which in many ways should be looked at as wonderful business. Obviously, lots of us are disappointed with him leaving but that's mainly because we still had hope that he would 'come good' with very little evidence for it shown. van Gaal clearly isn't in any mood to be carrying anyone this season and wants each player mentally focused and ready for what he's asking them to do.
i dont. thats why im hoping that we have some sort of an attacking option of the caliber of di maria already lined up waiting in the wings. and im saying it would be frustrating to sell him (after one season) and then not have a suitble replacement. dont think ive said something ridiculous.
We overpaid a bit last year and he's had a crappy season. It's not shocking at all.
It also depends how much was paid in which stage as the euro got weaker so the transfer fee would be now 53m pounds. We paid something at the begging so the transfer was more than 53, but less than 59,9.
We have to take into account that he played for us and first part of the season was actually good, got some good numbers, so that was worth "few" million at least. It's not like we bought him and locked him in a locker and are selling him now. All in all 45m pounds wouldn't really be a taking a hit.
We've sold RVN for less than we paid and he became recognized as WC at United and nobody is saying that we took a hit.
I only don't agree with the fee as it is PSG.
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Isn't the deals actually 65m plus bonuses?
thats not an argument either. usually people discuss why they think its laughable. i guess youre one of those who doesnt really have a point to make. i dont think its laughable and i have an argument for it.
Oblak (in my opinion the best goalkeeper in the market) release clause is 45 m€, approximately 31m pounds, but instead they are willing to pay around 20m pounds for Cillessen? I guess that Van Gaal really likes him,if not I don´t understand it
That why I said how much we paid upfront.
You mentioned all the players going out but only mentioned two players coming in and not mentioning Memphis, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian.
It's like saying last summer Real Madrid sold Di Maria, Alonso and Morata and brought in Lucas Silva and Hernandez on loan, completely ignoring them buying Kroos and Rodriguez.
di maria has proved and time and again that hes a top player playing for argentina. even in the midst of a bad patch with us hes been untouchable for argentina. hes world class and theres no doubt about that. we just dont know how to use him.
pedro is an average player with above avg. finishing and first touch. thats it. lets see how he manages in a physical league where he doesnt have the service of xavi iniesta and messi threading balls through to him
But he barely played the second half of the season when we played our best football. I think everyone will be disappointed if he leaves but at the same time its not the end of the world given the signings we have made this summer. The other way to look at it he didnt have an enormous impact last season except at the start of the season. If he had scored 12-15 goals and assisted like 20 goals then yes we have to bring in an adequate replacement to replace those stats. Ultimately if he is the one wanting to leave for whatever reason and us not pushing him out and if we recoup what we paid for him then so be it.
If you dont know why we sold Falcao and RVP thats your problem. Cliisen is signing as a backup keeper for this season it seems. And ADM had a poor season, Pedro isnt as good as ADM but ADM sure didnt prove that last year and Pedro is more than good enough replacement esp if he'll play better than ADM. He certainly isnt average either.
Part about fans being pissed and wanting Bale or Ronaldo is.. Silly to say the least.
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