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Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24
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Even those stats show 46 goals in 4 seasons. 11.5 goals a year is hardly great. Granted we signed Lukaku and Ibrahimovic during that time too.
That thread looked like Martial would single handedly win us treble. Not a single negative comment on his contract extension.
This was just after the period where he (quite ironically) had been single handedly keeping Jose in a job and he was a big part of Ole's caretaker run. He was also in his early 20s and hadn't suffered chronic injuries. We also had Alexis Sanchez in his position on 400-500k pw so his wages didn't seem disproportionate.
His many haters that also like to slam the club seem to forget all of these facts when they discuss his contract, which has turned out to be a mistake in hindsight but not at the time.
His many haters that also like to slam the club seem to forget all of these facts when they discuss his contract, which has turned out to be a mistake in hindsight but not at the time.
Contracts are long-term agreements. You don't hand a new one out on the back of a few weeks or months of good form. That's one of the mistakes we keep making with renewals, and it's definitely a reason to blame the club.
He was still considered a world class talent and still 22 at the time. Again, it was a mistake in hindsight but not at the time. EVERYONE in the thread at the time was happy with the decision.
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We shouldn’t be selling Alvaro. He’s a decent player
Then we complain when other clubs sell young players that help fund their transfers, whilst we hoard them all until they lose all value
I remember Caf posters saying the exact same thing about Ethan Laird.
And Zidane Iqbal.
And James Garner.
And Tahith Chong.
And Timothy Fosu-Mensah.
And Ben Pearson.
And Guillermo Varela.
And Davide Petrucci.
And Ryan Tunnicliffe.
And Josh King.
And Oliver Norwood.
And Danny Drinkwater.
And so on, and so on...
I think he’s better than all of them, he’s better than Malacia too. I’ve watched him on loan quite a bit and he’s definitely ready to be our backup to Shaw and potentially take over from him. I’d rather loan him if he isn’t gonna get a look in this year but we shouldn’t be selling him
We have injuries but a relatively small amount of games left. One a week pretty much. Just get to the summer and regroup under the new owners hopefully.
I enjoyed watching him at youth levels, and he has good technique for a defender when on the ball. But his limited pace and defensive abilities always seemed limitations to his level in that position.
I think a move to a club that's 'a big fish in a small pond' like Benfica is the right sort of move for him as they should have the ball a lot and can often have attacking full backs. Like how Alex Telles impressed at Porto, James Tavernier does so well at Rangers, etc.
I like Alvaro too, hope there's a buyback clause or something.
But if it helps us sign Joao Neves in the summer then I'm all for it.
But if it helps us sign Joao Neves in the summer then I'm all for it.
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Official: Joe Hugill joins Burton Albion on loan
It's good to see Lollujo getting a mention
The fan club this guy had was insane. He never looked like he would be good enough for United. In fact, if I remember correctly he never nailed down a definite position and was a jack of all trades but master of none.
Fun fact: his brother played for the local non league team my dad supports, Hednesford Town.
Alvaro can't defend.
He has looked like a real prospect on occasion but not consistently. Wish him the best but he's a country mile from displacing Dalot and i fecking hate Dalot as a left back.
He has looked like a real prospect on occasion but not consistently. Wish him the best but he's a country mile from displacing Dalot and i fecking hate Dalot as a left back.
I keep seeing this everywhere.
Everyone is convinced. I tried to shine light on reality but there is no changing it.
I think they don’t get it. Glazers are still the owners. Whilst SJR as largest investor gets to play FM
Whilst you are obviously correct isn’t the effect the same as he has control of the football?
I think people are either ignorant of the details, or possibly fooling themselves to cope with the fact that a full sale wasn’t realised and the Glazers are still around. After all, ignorance is bliss.
you may want to amend that, new owners ? Still the rats unfortunately
Presumably money decisions will still be made with glazer inputWhilst you are obviously correct isn’t the effect the same as he has control of the football?
I think people are either ignorant of the details, or possibly fooling themselves to cope with the fact that a full sale wasn’t realised and the Glazers are still around. After all, ignorance is bliss.
I wonder if they think Harry Amass is the one to come through and be a future left back for the next 10 years?
I dont recall where I’ve seen/heard it but I’m sure they can’t interfere with the footballing decisions and even if they can it doesn’t make sense for them to do so. The great attraction of the 25% deal to the Glazers is all responsibility for performance falls to Trawlers/INEOS and they can cream off the profits at the end of it all presuming SJR and team are in anyway more competent than the Glazers have been. If they don’t interfere and it goes wrong they can’t be blamed.
Worth remembering that we have a PLC board and a football board too, and whilst the two must work together to a degree, INEOS have positioned key people on both boards to ensure they get their way!
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Correct some folk must realise that under current owner including the new one that things are not changing on the financial front anytime soon. We might aswell put all the high earners Rashford ,Bruno, Varane, Casemiro, Antony, Maguire, Sancho etc on sale and move on from there.
Pedants out in force. Ratty owns part of the club now, he's new. I'm comfortable with the phrase new owner.
And yeah as others have pointed out he allegedly has control of the day to day running of the club or whatever.
And yeah as others have pointed out he allegedly has control of the day to day running of the club or whatever.
Yep, sell all our best players. Wonderful plan.
Is there any significance to Mondays FFP/PSR deadline? Do we have a new allowance period and are we free to spend after that? Will we see a flurry of late window activity?
No it was for submitting the 22/23 accounts. Our spending to June this year is where we have a problem.Is there any significance to Mondays FFP/PSR deadline? Do we have a new allowance period and are we free to spend after that? Will we see a flurry of late window activity?
I'm not disagreeing but how many 8 out of 10 performances has this group of players generated collectively this season? Probably no more than 5 or 6 total.
He’s not the owner though, profits still going into the pockets of the glazer family.
he does have control over building the football structure seemingly but glazers will still have voting rights so may not be as straightforward as people think.
time will tell.
yes I’m pedantic but I feel like some people are kidding themselves.
Thanks! I think.
I think you’re being quite negative but I also understand why many are reserving judgement.
That said I don’t think there’s any seemingly about it - he has full control of sporting operations and everything we’ve seen so far in terms of him and his team being front centre and briefing staff suggests that’s the case.
If it was to be any different I don’t think the Glazers would allow it. Especially when you consider the deal isn’t even fully ratified yet!
All I keep seeing in terms of loan strikers on here is he's not the type for us,so is there anyone who people actually want in Jan
You’re probably right , but you still replace the weaker players first. Shipping out our best players and leaving the likes of McT etc still won’t raise our performance either.
All this bluster and hyperbole about Getting rid of Bruno Casemiro and Rashford is just ridiculous.
Barring the word seemingly, what’s negative? I’m just making sure people know he’s not the owner, the rats are still there, we shouldn’t forget that
He's the largest shareholder. He's as much an "owner" as Joel Glazer or Avram Glazer, even if he doesn't have a majority stake. The Glazer siblings aren't a monolithic entity.
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