Scrutiny ? He didn't make mistakes, he won duels and he played generally well. We played to his strengths I agreed - but your argument is just bizarre. He wasn't good - he just wasn't exposed because we played defensively ? That is basically like saying that a goalkeeper who didn't concede any goals was crap - he just wasn't exposed because he didn't have anything to do.
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Scrutiny ? He didn't make mistakes, he won duels and he played generally well. We played to his strengths I agreed - but your argument is just bizarre. He wasn't good - he just wasn't exposed because we played defensively ? That is basically like saying that a goalkeeper who didn't concede any goals was crap - he just wasn't exposed because he didn't have anything to do.
Maguire was very good in the Euros.....and he was generally solid in the first 2 seasons at United
Yeah, I think Tuanzebe would be really well suited to ETHs system. He'd have to be competing for the same spot as both Martinez and Lindelof though in my eyes as he's not great in the air.
If Linedlof is happy to play backup then I'd be chuffed with Maguire & Bailly leaving and one decently fast, aerially strong defender with a good injury record coming in to compete with Varane.
Martinez / Tuan / Lind - Varane / New CB
Send Phil off to the glue factory.
ah ok - over long periods of time I agree with you. But I still think the criticism he gets for his first 2 year is ridiculous. He wasn't as good as I hoped and believed he would be - but he was still solid and certainly not a bad player.
Tuanzebe is a bit like Bailly - he can look excellent for 80 minutes, but you just know that a disaster-moment is waiting to happen. And with Tuanzebe they tend to be big. It's like that game against Arsenal where he generally had a superb game, before he handed Aubameyang a goal. He is a player I simply don't trust
Yeah, those sort of mistakes are tolerable when they are younger. The problem is Tuanzebe has missed 2-3 years of development at this point. He should be much further along in his career.
One thing to be slow. Another thing to be slow and offer zero aerial threat or ability and also be horrendous with decision making. At the first opportunity, Maguire needs to be sold. A terrible signing by every standard possible.
Sure, agreed. The talents there I don't think anyone would deny, he's just never kicked on due to injuries / our disastrous string on coaches / shite loan choices.
Whereas Bailly (much as I LOVE his playstyle when on form) is a lost cause mentally I think, Tuanzebe would be worth sticking with if ETH rated him in my opinion. Bit of a belief and some gametime / coaching might do the world of goof, as he's got the raw materials still I imagine.
Who knows. Interesting to see how our CB situation pans out, all looks pretty up in the air at the mo.
Weird that getting relegated doesn’t seem to tarr every player it happens to.
I don’t know why people can’t just accept that Maguire is a fairly decent centre half who we overpaid for and leave it there.
There’s some irresistible desire to one up the previous shite hot take with ever more ridiculous hyperbole. It’s just fecking nonsense.
His fist year here was really good for us. Let’s not re-write history based upon his current form.
He would be a fairly decent centre half for a mid table team. I would say that is where we are. But we aspire to more.
I have said many times from day one IMO he is around Lescott level. Not a chance he is a world record fee level of talent.
He was never going to be £80m better than Smalling and that’s difficult to rationalise.
The fee shouldn't be a stick to beat Maguire, but a stick to beat Woodward...
Lindelof isn't the answer either, he was the reason Woodward panicked and overpaid for Maguire, wasn't he?
No way we should sell Maguire if we are not buying another defender
Lindelof isn't the answer either, he was the reason Woodward panicked and overpaid for Maguire, wasn't he?
No way we should sell Maguire if we are not buying another defender
This is revisionary. He isn’t good enough and I guarantee you he wouldn’t be here if not English.
Absolute nonsense
I can only assume you're using words you do t understand.
It isn't, at all. Go back to between the Euros and start of last season, just after he'd been in the team of the tournament.
Find me some posts saying that he's useless and needs to go. I'll wait for you to link them, thanks.
He was never 'worth' the fee but this narrative that he's awful and a waste of space is embrassingly fickle.
Stop going so over the top. It's enough to say "he's not good enough" and leave it at that. Fine.
It's stupid, low iq people who have to go hysterical and over the top, because they lack the ability to control their emotions and think critically.
No flight tracker or anything. Poor from the caf muppets. The speed of this transfer has blindsided everyone.
How is that nonsense? If his name was hassan magisse and playing for Leicester the way he was he would be no where near us and we definitely wouldn't have spunked 80m on him.
Like we never paid big fees for foreign players. Does Lukaku ring a bell?
This is going to happen we just don't know what the final fee will be yet.
Walk away if he's costing that much. No way we should be paying that.
We do. It'll be too much.
Nah
If that's what it takes then it's what we'll pay. We need a player like him.
Frenkie and Antony to finish off the window 
It’s 80M€ + 20M€ in add ons
Frenkie and Antony to finish off the window
Ooft id end up finishing in my boxers no need to unzip
Coaching?
These twats are clearly uncoachable.
Frenkie and Antony to finish off the window
Muppet heaven.
Frenkie and Antony to finish off the window
Imagine the scenes on the Caf..
Frenkie would be described as a mercenary and his wife a slag who hates the Arndale Centre whilst Antony would be labelled unprofessional and concerns raised about his age because all Brazilian forwards go fat quickly.
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