I think we should have kept him and sold Maguire who would at least get us 40m+ in transfer fees. On his day EB was probably our best defender after Varane.
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I think we should have kept him and sold Maguire who would at least get us 40m+ in transfer fees. On his day EB was probably our best defender after Varane.
Fair - will delete if I get a telling off from @mazhar13.
Dreamer. Maguire will be here for the rest of his career sadly.
You'll have to forgive me on an uncertainty on whether I should count a person as a first teamer and/or a loan as important enough to mention, but following the same strategy as my previous list of ins, here's the outs (again, brackets means either a loan, a backup keeper or a less notable sale):
22/23 - 5+ - Lingard, Matic, Pogba, Cavani, Mata (Grant, Pereira, Henderson loan, Telles loan)
21/22 - 1+ - James (Periera loan, Tuanzebe loan, Romero)
20/21 - 4+ - Smalling, Dalot, Rojo, Sanchez (Lingard loan, Ighalo end of loan)
19/20 - 5+ - Lukaku, Darmian, Young, Valencia, Herrera (Wilson, Smalling loan, Rojo loan)
18/19 - 3+ - Blind, Fellaini, Carrick (Johnstone)
17/18 - 4+ - Mkhi, Januzaj, Ibra, Rooney (Pereira loan, Wilson loan)
16/17 - 3+ - Schneiderlin, Depay, Schweinsteiger (Januzaj loan, McNair, Blackett, Keane, Valdes)
15/16 - 7+ - Di Maria, Chicharito, Evans, RVP, Nani, Rafael, Cleverley (Lindegaard, Amos, Januzaj loan, Wilson loan, Blackett loan, Keane loan, Powell loan, Milinkovic-Savic, Henriquez)
14/15 - 10+ - Welbeck, Kagawa, Buttner, Zaha, Evra, Vidic, Rio, Fletcher, Anderson, Giggs, (Bebé, Chicharito loan, Lingard loan, Nani loan, Amos loan, Cleverley loan, Petrucci, Macheda)
13/14 - 2+ - Scholes, Fabio (Zaha loan, Anderson loan)
12/13 - 3+ - Berbatov, Park, Owen (Kuzczak, Fabio loan)
11/12 - 6+ - O'Shea, Obertan, Brown, Hargreaves, Scholes, VDS (Diouf, Gibson, Bebé loan)
I mean I could keep going but the point is we lose a lot of players more often than you think. The problem with the situation we have right now is that the sheer volume of losses in midfield and attack, and a lack of up-and-coming talent to replace them from youth ranks. But hey, I didn't really know about Rashford until he was given a start, so who knows, maybe we'll see Garnacho or someone similar storm into the side and make us think we were silly to worry in the first place.
Regarding Martial, that's massively gutting and I figure we're signing a striker regardless of his injury, but it'll be a strain on our earlier games of the season with I'm guessing Amad/Garnacho coming into the squad as subs.
Again, will judge our transfer window once deadline day has ended.
Seeing our outgoings in the LvG era is depressing
Any idea on the total wages off the books with the outgoings so far?
We'll soon run out of players.
Well, obviously I hope we bring in a few as well.
I’d guesstimate that (in order mentioned in the post you’ve replied to) we’ve got rid of 100k, 100k, 250k, 150k, 150k, (20k, 30k, 100k, 100k) per week off the wage bill, so a million per week meaning 50m off the wage bill annually.
Great to see all the positivity surrounding the club still going into a new season.
My guess, things are going to get a lot more toxic this season and the owners will eventually be drove out.
United fans, we're getting played again. Most of these journos generate engagement and clicks by putting hyperbolic stuff like this out there, knowing how many of us are out there. Things are never as bad as they seem.
That's more like it!
Has to be done I feel.
BS account, claimed they were a former DM journalist when I last saw his account on here
€8m ? Is that another loan or just a piss poor fee
Significant funds. Then 3M loan fee plus option to sell for 11M. The feck?
Glazers carry more in their back pocket for a night out in the pub.
We didn’t qualify for the champions league so 25% off the wage bill due to that. Will probably turn a profit soon so the owners can increase their dividends.
It’s even better than that, it’s a loan with the obligation to make it permanent IF Roma get CL football. So he helps get them CL football and we get peanuts in return. This club. Only this club.
Yeah, he's known to BS. I'd delete it.
but weve already taken 10s of millions of the annual wage bill...
The report's from Calciomercato, who tend to post quite a bit of BS. I'd wait for more reputable Italian sources to report on this.
Am I only one that couldn’t give a toss about these outgoings and their fees atm?
We clearly have plenty of room and money for incomings and these shit players aren’t gonna play anyway so who gives a feck, we aren’t in charge of the clubs finances so no point moaning.
We clearly have plenty of room and money for incomings and these shit players aren’t gonna play anyway so who gives a feck, we aren’t in charge of the clubs finances so no point moaning.
I am bloody annoyed due to Toy Story puppet and his sidekicks incompetence we are forced to accept loan deals for players
I think it’s a problem across big teams. There is very little money around European clubs at the moment. Look at the deal Real Madrid did to move on Luka Jovic for example.
Bailly for 8m euro? I was expecting at least 12m GBP to be frank. Although if it’s the best we can get - so be it, better than nothing still
Doesn't help you pay squad players ridiculous wages though
As many have said, Woodward's legacy. Maybe also happened before him??
I think we need to just be happy when we move on for any fee. We need so many fresh starts.
Hope this puts an end to the laughable figures some on here tend to value our players at. Some suggesting we should be getting €30m between Telles and Bailly, absolutely mind-boggling.
How in the name of god is Bailly worth less than Andreas?! He’s a beast. A glass beast but a beast all the same!
Injury prone, too prone to a mistake and unpredictabile, which isn't good for a CB and a team trying to build a spine.
Bailly is a 25m player we're having to sell for a massive discount because of the crazy wages Woody gave him, so frustrating.
Yeah but fecking Andreas….. he was useless
A player who is hardly ever available is useless too
Based on what? Blokes never fit and plays like an unreliable mad man when he is. He's obviously on silly wages, but that doesn't really tell the whole story and clearly isn't the only issue with shifting him.
Bailly has at least one good game a season. Admittedly he’s already peaked this season vs Liverpool in Oz, but that’s more than preseason pirlo ever did.
It's splitting hairs. They're both a waste of space and we're better off with a few million in the bank and them off the wage bill
No he isn’t. We’re getting exactly what he is worth as he is unreliable, injury prone. And shite.
Well he isn't shite - but he has that mistake in him that makes him untrustworthy - even against Liverpool when he was called MOTM (God knows why) he had one huge mistake which should have lead to a goal. And as you said he is extremely injury-prone. The first season he played 25 league matches - after that he has never played more than 15 league games in one season - that is extraordinary. So if we can get £3 million in loan fee and clear £5 million in wages for him - take it.
I don't think the games played per season should be used to evaluate player's injury-proneness. Instead, it should be games available for. Sure Bailey is injury prone due to how he plays, however he has obviously been available for a lot more games than he's played, the managers just happen to favour the other players.
Bailly is definitely one of our better fringe players. If he could stay fit he'll be a great asset for any team.
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