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Berbaclass said:
He was solid last year, saying 'he's not up to it' is bollocks. Defiantly an exaggeration.
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He does still need to prove himself and improve positioning and other aspects, but yes I agree with you. Injury problems, though he tried to speak well of it to his credit he was poorly treated by Mourinho and everyone wanted him out last summer and he did ok last season. Last few months so awful for everybody he seems to have gone out of favour again.
Like I said needs to imprvoe himself as still nowhere near the promising Southampton player we signed, or the exciting player we had for a month or two before injury....but totally agree with the "not up to it" being a silly exxageration, literally one of the few players could even fill a hand I would name who deserves his place based on last year
 
sewey89 said:
I genuinely don’t think we’re in for him. I don’t think we’ll sign anyone. I think we’ll put a brief out fairly early that our business is done
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Probably right, or we make a last minute move in for someone that doesnt come off, either way I think we are done
 
Smores said:
They can't argue without hyperbole. It's obvious to everyone but them what an underwhelming transfer window this is.

I can only surmise they think it's beyond Ole or the club to get in 3 or 4 players who will start in a window. Despite bleating on about how it's the right approach to only get a couple in i bet they change their tune if we sign a couple tomorrow
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I deliberately exaggerated because of just how strange this place is right now. It was obviously a tongue in cheek remark but if you want to take it at face value then whatever :lol:

We've made two very crucial buys this summer and could do with an extra midfielder or striker for some depth but if you find that underwhelming then that's entirely your fault. I though everyone wanted us to start being more sensible in the transfer market and not rush into making expensive mistakes?

You don't build a team in one transfer window. We've taken care of the most obvious problems and next we will address our midfield in the next window or two I have no doubt.

This place is just full of transfer muppets...
 
Berbaclass said:
I think the overall squad is possibly weaker but our actual starting XI is better IMO. Fellaini and Lukaku wouldn't have played much part in the team so I'm happy to see them 'replaced' in the squad by McTominay, Greenwood, Pereira etc.
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I agree with that. Same token though, we had a wonderful honeymoon period under Ole which often happens with new manager. Take away those points and our season was awful for the rest of it, are we improved enough to close the gap on the top four let alone the top two, especially with a couple of injuries
 
So selling Lukaku pays for Maguire. Similar to last summer, except even then, selling Blind paid for Dalot.
 
jesperjaap said:
I agree with that. Same token though, we had a wonderful honeymoon period under Ole which often happens with new manager. Take away those points and our season was awful for the rest of it, are we improved enough to close the gap on the top four let alone the top two, especially with a couple of injuries
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I'm expecting us to play like that from the off this year though because apparently the players are actually fit enough to do so but we shall see!
 
tonnas said:
No, if Dybala accepted it would have been a swap
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He didn’t accept. We also knew it was possible that Lukaku would leave before we knew Dybala was available, so where are the other targets???
 
Berbaclass said:
I deliberately exaggerated because of just how strange this place is right now. It was obviously a tongue in cheek remark but if you want to take it at face value then whatever :lol:

We've made two very crucial buys this summer and could do with an extra midfielder or striker for some depth but if you find that underwhelming then that's entirely your fault. I though everyone wanted us to start being more sensible in the transfer market and not rush into making expensive mistakes?

You don't build a team in one transfer window. We've taken care of the most obvious problems and next we will address our midfield in the next window or two I have no doubt.

This place is just full of transfer muppets...
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You can't rate Ole very highly if you think he's unable to identify more than a few targets in a window, especially when more than two would automatically become expensive mistakes in your view.
 
P-Nut said:
I don't think we are personally.
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Based on what? We have lost an attacker and a midfielder. Our defence is decent to be fair, but it will need to be as our midfield will get dominated more often than not.

We have an attack that doesn’t score enough goals - hasn’t for 3 or 4 years.
 
Berbaclass said:
I deliberately exaggerated because of just how strange this place is right now. It was obviously a tongue in cheek remark but if you want to take it at face value then whatever :lol:

We've made two very crucial buys this summer and could do with an extra midfielder or striker for some depth but if you find that underwhelming then that's entirely your fault. I though everyone wanted us to start being more sensible in the transfer market and not rush into making expensive mistakes?

You don't build a team in one transfer window. We've taken care of the most obvious problems and next we will address our midfield in the next window or two I have no doubt.

This place is just full of transfer muppets...
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Meanwhile, we'll lose Pogba next summer and not even have the Europa League to attract potential signings. Unless we're willing to spend money now to get the right players, we won't build anything. The pressure will now be on Ole immediately as fans are expecting a top four challenge, when he simply doesn't have the players for it. I think we'll be about 8th by December and there will be calls for Ole to be fired. It will be unfair because he hasn't been given the funds. But if he doesn't invest in midfield, he won't be able to succeed this season. Then next year will be another rebuild. We need to invest significant funds several years in a row to reach where City and Liverpool are now. We haven't even had one summer where we spend 150m net. It's not good enough for a team that should be winning Champions Leagues.
 
Berbaclass said:
Because you can already see what he's actually trying to achieve on the pitch and how we're going to try and play. It's blatantly obvious after the pre-season how differently we are going to play this year. The same could not be said for any of our previous 4 managers. He deserves the benefit of the doubt for just having some semblance of a fecking plan on how he wants us to play. He's also gone out and got player that actually complement that style and will make us a better team. I don't know what more you want from him at this point in time.

There is far too much negativity on here. Everyone is basically writing us off as finishing 6th place because we haven't spent 300 million on 10 players.
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Thing is we started like that under his tenure then went to manure. Side is improved and we should be in the fight for top four for sure....but we are vey reliant still on players that havent proved themselves for quite some time and teeenagers really stepping up and taking chances.

I want to see Ole do well, sure virtually all of us do. Fear there are too many what ifs this season with players individually for the playing style changes to really work, much like last year. Ole or the boards error, we have certainly failed this window by not making at least two more quality signings, that is where I am fearful, still glaring holes and reliant on everything going right like it did in his honeymoon period.
 
Smores said:
You can't rate Ole very highly if you think he's unable to identify more than a few targets in a window, especially when more than two would automatically become expensive mistakes in your view.
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That's not how I view it though. I think 3/4 signings is probably the sweet spot for getting players properly integrated into the team and to get them to gel/bond together, I think any more than that is a little excessive.

Thats just my personal opinion though. You see it all the time where clubs buy loads of players and struggle to get them all the gel together.

I think Villa will have a tough time with that particular issue this season.
 
jesperjaap said:
Thing is we started like that under his tenure then went to manure. Side is improved and we should be in the fight for top four for sure....but we are vey reliant still on players that havent proved themselves for quite some time and teeenagers really stepping up and taking chances.

I want to see Ole do well, sure virtually all of us do. Fear there are too many what ifs this season with players individually for the playing style changes to really work, much like last year. Ole or the boards error, we have certainly failed this window by not making at least two more quality signings, that is where I am fearful, still glaring holes and reliant on everything going right like it did in his honeymoon period.
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I think it's fairly obvious though that the players just couldn't handle the level of intensity that was demanded and eventually they fell off a cliff fitness wise. Which is why we've seen all the stories this summer about all the conditioning work they've been doing and then seeing it materialise fairly well/effectively as the high press in the pre-season games.
 
I’d take Mandzukic! His mentality and aerial prowess would be great for a backup tbh.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
Meanwhile, we'll lose Pogba next summer and not even have the Europa League to attract potential signings. Unless we're willing to spend money now to get the right players, we won't build anything. The pressure will now be on Ole immediately as fans are expecting a top four challenge, when he simply doesn't have the players for it. I think we'll be about 8th by December and there will be calls for Ole to be fired. It will be unfair because he hasn't been given the funds. But if he doesn't invest in midfield, he won't be able to succeed this season. Then next year will be another rebuild. We need to invest significant funds several years in a row to reach where City and Liverpool are now. We haven't even had one summer where we spend 150m net. It's not good enough for a team that should be winning Champions Leagues.
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If we lose Pogba then we will need to replace him. That's a big IF. You are just assuming things based on nothing. Why will we be in the Europa League? We've not even played one game yet FFS get a grip...
 
The guy is a big game player. I’d have him here for his work rate, winning mentality and arial ability.

He’d be the perfect player for the bench and is considerably more adept at the other things a footballer needs to do than Fellaini was.
 
Zoo said:
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Fits with my thinking about how they're going about transfers now. Small fee for an experienced rotation option that fits into the new system very well. Wouldn't be shocked to see a midfielder of that description too but I think we'll do with what we have if not.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
Chelsea were never part of the conversation. I agree we're probably better than Chelsea right now. But even then it's insane it's even close considering they had a transfer ban. Arsenal I disagree. Pepe is an excellent addition and their attack was already better than ours. They have also signed Cebbalos and Tierney. I think Arsenal are a strong contender for top 4 now and will probably be able to outscore most teams this season. They'll get around 75 points this year.
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I know they lost Hazard and have a transfer ban, but everybody seems so confident we are better than Chelsea when they finished about us. Lampard is an unknown quantity without experience but Sarri lost the dressing room pretty much, lost the support of the fans, Sarri ball never really worked and they still reached a cup final and finished above us. Not saying they or us are better, but people seem very dismissive of them for losing Hazad
 
Berbaclass said:
You have an agenda. I'm talking about what Ole is doing and you're going off on a tangent about Woodward. Two completely different things.

Woodward can't win with people like you IMO, you all have your mind made up and we either go mad and splurge stupid money on players like Sanchez, or be sensible this window and only buy players that fit into what Ole is trying to do.

We've signed two key players (AWB and Maguire) who go straight into the first team and instantly make us better and have renewed two of our key players contracts (Rashford & DDG). Thats absolutely fine for his first window and something we can look to build on. If we get one more tomorrow then it's a bonus.
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Heh? The two are clearly linked, Ole will fail without proper backing from Ed, and Ed will fire Ole if he goes the same way as the other managers.

Six years in and you expect people to suddenly believe that Ed is now some sort of transfer guru? No, he is still the wrong guy who has inexplicably got away with overseeing the mess that has been us post SAF. And no I do not want a 'splurge' on players like Sanchez again, I want a competent DOF that will start to put a proper team together, and not one that will not need to ripped up every time we change the manager.

I have no agenda, I just do not forget everything that has gone before every summer and blindly think it is going to be different somehow.
 
jesperjaap said:
I know they lost Hazard and have a transfer ban, but everybody seems so confident we are better than Chelsea when they finished about us. Lampard is an unknown quantity without experience but Sarri lost the dressing room pretty much, lost the support of the fans, Sarri ball never really worked and they still reached a cup final and finished above us. Not saying they or us are better, but people seem very dismissive of them for losing Hazad
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I think they've just stagnated/regressed as a whole, not purely because of Hazard but he absolutely carried them at times last year. That transfer ban will be the main factor though, it will cost them big IMO.
 
Berbaclass said:
I'm expecting us to play like that from the off this year though because apparently the players are actually fit enough to do so but we shall see!
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Indeed we will. I think we can actually fight for 2nd place, at the same time we really could finish around 7th, I think 4th/5th down to the wire
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Heh? The two are clearly linked, Ole will fail without proper backing from Ed, and Ed will fire Ole if he goes the same way as the other managers.

Six years in and you expect people to suddenly believe that Ed is now some sort of transfer guru? No, he is still the wrong guy who has inexplicably got away with overseeing the mess that has been us post SAF. And no I do not want a 'splurge' on players like Sanchez again, I want a competent DOF that will start to put a proper team together, and not one that will not need to ripped up every time we change the manager.

I have no agenda, I just do not forget everything has gone before every summer and blindly think it is going to be different somehow.
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Nope. How is Ole implementing his style on the team anything do with Woodward? Thats totally a coaching thing. Has absolutely nothing to do with Ed.
 
jesperjaap said:
Indeed we will. I think we can actually fight for 2nd place, at the same time we really could finish around 7th, I think 4th/5th down to the wire
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I think we will surprise a lot of people personally. I've been very encouraged by what I've seen in pre-season.
 
Berbaclass said:
I think they've just stagnated/regressed as a whole, not purely because of Hazard but he absolutely carried them at times last year. That transfer ban will be the main factor though, it will cost them big IMO.
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Is a huge loss of course, Pulisic is a decent signing though. Still think if Lampard can get them onside, though they are not the Chelsea of a few years ago, they are still as much as a top four contender as us and Arsenal, whose manager has now had a full season in the premier league too.

Its going to be an interesting season, nest case scenario very exciting one for us, worst case scenario Xmas P45, just hope we get off to a good start as definately need some momentum to have a good season
 
jesperjaap said:
Is a huge loss of course, Pulisic is a decent signing though. Still think if Lampard can get them onside, though they are not the Chelsea of a few years ago, they are still as much as a top four contender as us and Arsenal, whose manager has now had a full season in the premier league too.

Its going to be an interesting season, nest case scenario very exciting one for us, worst case scenario Xmas P45, just hope we get off to a good start as definately need some momentum to have a good season
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Think Chelsea will also suffer from a lack of good/experienced defenders too, even more so if they sell Luiz to Arsenal. The way I see it is that we've easily got the best GK and defence out of us Chelsea or Arsenal. I think those two will leak goals and we will be quite good defensively this year. It will be up to Martial, Rashford etc. to score the goals to put us above them.
 
mad1max954 said:
Based on what? We have lost an attacker and a midfielder. Our defence is decent to be fair, but it will need to be as our midfield will get dominated more often than not.

We have an attack that doesn’t score enough goals - hasn’t for 3 or 4 years.
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Based on the fact everyone is massively over reacting because they haven't got their shiny new toy.

A starting XI of...

DDG
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Pogba
? ? Rashford
Martial

The 2 question marks are likely to be filled by James/Lingard and Mata/Pereira to start the season. But we've got a bunch of promising kids coming through that may or may not make the step up this year.

So comparing to last season (when Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea all just about finished above us) we've got...

A settled DDG
A much improved defence, which whilst improving on individual quality should also increase in stability which would make it even stronger.

Pogba/McTominay at the base of midfield. McTominay looks more than ready to step up and fill Herrera's shoes (whose injury coincided with our dramatic downturn in form)

Rashford/Mata/Lingard (I'm using our most experienced here for argument's sake) It's not perfect, but Lingard and Rashford suit OGS style well, and Mata adds the creativity everyone is moaning about us missing and usually plays well when central.

Martial up top, back where he has always wanted to play, and personally I believe his best position. I back him to provide a lot of goals, after seeing how he has bought into what Ole wants.

Then we've got the kids; Tuanzabe, Garner, Chong, Gomes, Greenwood. All looked impressive throughout the youth/loan last year and impressed once again on tour. We've also got a manager that appears to have a lot of hope and faith in them. They will chip in at times this year.

Sure I'd like to replace Mata with someone a bit more mobile and of a better quality, but we're certainly not doomed when you consider Chelsea are definitely worse off than last season, and Arsenal arguably are as well despite everyone gushing over Pepe (forgetting they've lost their captain and most important midfielder)

I think you'll agree we had 2 disastrous spells last season, before OGS with the annoyed one, and the end of season collapse (where it's well documented the players had nothing left in the tank) despite those 2 massive patches of terrible form the we finished 6th only just behind 3 teams by a few points.
 
Berbaclass said:
I think we will surprise a lot of people personally. I've been very encouraged by what I've seen in pre-season.
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Hope you are right, only seen a couple of the games myself. Really hope the youngsters get a lot of chances as a really good season in my mind actually involves Tuanzabe getting in the side to partner Maguire, Gomes taking the number 10 spot regularly and Greenwood being a big impact player from the bench...hell of a lot to ask, but bar the lack of experience and being unproven, I do think they are our best options within the make up of our team formation wise and individual players around them
 
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